[JoeWolf1]

For the ?th year now, here are my rookie stat predictions. I listed the entire first round this year, and one 2nd rounder I feel will produce at a high level this season. They’re always a little hit or miss, but normally pretty good overall. Just for fun anyways, comments, trash talking, and memes are welcome.

ROY – Victor Oladipo

All Rookie 1st Team –

G – Trey Burke
G -Victor Oladipo
G – Ben McLemore
F – Anthony Bennett
F – Cody Zeller

All Rookie 2nd Team –

G – Michael Carter Williams
G – Tim Hardaway Jr.
G – Archie Goodwin
F – Glen Rice Jr. – ( Not listed – 17 mpg – 7.1 ppg 2.4 rpg .5 apg – 42/37/76 )
F – Kelly Olynyk

Anthony Bennett – 21.5 mpg – 10.2 ppg 6.1 rpg 1 apg 45/32/72

Victor Oladipo – 27.8 mpg – 13.1 ppg 4.4 rpg 4 apg 43/38/79

Otto Porter Jr. – 16.5 mpg – 4.2 ppg 2.5 rpg 1apg 38/35/75

Cody Zeller – 31 mpg – 12.8 ppg 7.1 rpg 1 bpg 48/29/74

Alex Len – 15.5 mpg – 3.9 ppg 3.8 rpg .6 bpg 45/0/69

Nerlens Noel ( 30 games ) 17 mpg – 6.1 ppg 5.6 rpg 1.3 bpg 52/0/56

Ben McLemore – 26.5 mpg – 14.1 ppg 3.6 rpg 1.2 spg 42/40/81

KCP – 20.0 mpg – 6.5 ppg 3 rpg 1 spg 38/35/75

Trey Burke – 28.5 mpg – 10.1 ppg 2.5 rpg 5.6 apg 36/35/78

MCW – 24.5 mpg – 8.8 ppg 3 rpg 5.3 apg 37/33/77

Steven Adams – 14.5 mpg – 4.2 ppg 4 rpg .8 bpg 60/0/59

Kelly Olynyk – 19 mpg – 7.8 ppg 3.5 rpg 1.3 apg 47/28/69

Shabazz Muhammad – 11.1 mpg – 3.3 ppg 1.8 rpg 0.1 apg 37/33/65

Giannis Adetokunbo – 17.9 mpg – 5.5 ppg 2.5 rpg 2 apg 40/35/70

Bebe – overseas

Dennis Schroeder – 20 mpg – 7 ppg 2.8 rpg 3.5 apg 36/34/78

Shane Larkin – 15.5 mpg – 4.5 ppg 1 rpg 1.6 apg 37/35/78

Sergey Karasev – 14 mpg – 4 ppg 1.9 rpg 1 apg 40/33/80

Tony Snell – 13.5 mpg – 3.9 ppg 1.5 rpg .8 spg 39/33/82

Gorgui Dieng – 15 mpg – 3.3 ppg 3.5 rpg 1 bpg 52/0/65

Mason Plumlee – 11 mpg – 2.5 ppg 1.8 rpg .7 bpg 50/0/62

Solomon Hill – 16 mpg – 3.6 ppg 2.5 rpg 1 apg 44/38/73

Tim Hardaway Jr. – 18.5 mpg – 8.4 ppg 2 rpg 1.2 apg 41/35/74

Reggie Bullock – 9 mpg – 2.3 ppg .9 rpg .4 spg 42/38/76

Andre Robertson – 7 mpg – 1.8 ppg 2.2 rpg .7 spg 45/0/57

Rudy Gobert – 8 mpg – 1.2 ppg 2 rpg 1 bpg 38/0/60

Livio Jean-Charles – overseas

Archie Goodwin – 18 mpg – 7.9 ppg 2 rpg 1 spg 43/26/65

Nemaja Nedovic – 6 mpg – 1.5 ppg .8 rpg 1 apg 35/33/75

[Brew Meister SmithParticipant]

Love the attention to detail on your lists.

You give Bennett pretty solid numbers at 10-6 and all rookie first team. Do you agree with him going 1st overall or even top 2 or 3?

Obviously there are a lot of critics of the pick, but your numbers suggest he should have been in the running regardless.

[Brew Meister SmithParticipant]

Love the attention to detail on your lists.

You give Bennett pretty solid numbers at 10-6 and all rookie first team. Do you agree with him going 1st overall or even top 2 or 3?

Obviously there are a lot of critics of the pick, but your numbers suggest he should have been in the running regardless.

[JoeWolf1]

I think Bennett is top 3 talent in this draft, but I personally thought Oladipo or McLemore would have been better selections at #1. That being said, I didn’t think Bennett was a poor selection at 1. I think in 10 years, all three will have been starters for the majority of their careers and possibly 1-3 time All-Stars.

I think he can play, and will play this season. With Brown saying he’s pretty much strictly going to play the PF spot this season, I have his minutes relatively low for a first pick, but I think Thompson will play a little center and Bennett will play a tad at the 3. They have a real cohesive unit in place with multi position players in their front court and Bennett’s perimeter skillset will play into that giving Irving more room to drive where Thompson could not.

Anyways, I’m rambling, but I thought Bennett was an solid pick, but not necessarily BPA. He’s probably a little more Clarence Witherspoon than Larry Johnson, IMO, but hey, that’s not all bad.

[JoeWolf1]

I think Bennett is top 3 talent in this draft, but I personally thought Oladipo or McLemore would have been better selections at #1. That being said, I didn’t think Bennett was a poor selection at 1. I think in 10 years, all three will have been starters for the majority of their careers and possibly 1-3 time All-Stars.

I think he can play, and will play this season. With Brown saying he’s pretty much strictly going to play the PF spot this season, I have his minutes relatively low for a first pick, but I think Thompson will play a little center and Bennett will play a tad at the 3. They have a real cohesive unit in place with multi position players in their front court and Bennett’s perimeter skillset will play into that giving Irving more room to drive where Thompson could not.

Anyways, I’m rambling, but I thought Bennett was an solid pick, but not necessarily BPA. He’s probably a little more Clarence Witherspoon than Larry Johnson, IMO, but hey, that’s not all bad.

[ChrispyParticipant]

Good posts. Thanks as always, Joe.

[ChrispyParticipant]

Good posts. Thanks as always, Joe.

[r377Participant]

MCW is garbage but should get lots of minutes as the Sixers tank.

What do you think his T/O per game and fg% will be Joe Wolf ?

[r377Participant]

MCW is garbage but should get lots of minutes as the Sixers tank.

What do you think his T/O per game and fg% will be Joe Wolf ?

[JoeWolf1]

I included his FG % on the far right of his predictions, but I had him at 37% from the field, 33% from 3 and 77% from the stripe. I’m not buying him as an efficient shooter at all, as a rookie.

He’s done a much better job taking care of the ball in pre-season compared to his shotty summer league performance, only turning the ball over once in over 80 minutes, but obviously he’s going to have some bumps in the regular season. I would think he’d be around 3.1 or so in the 24.5 minutes per game I gave him in my prediction.

[JoeWolf1]

I included his FG % on the far right of his predictions, but I had him at 37% from the field, 33% from 3 and 77% from the stripe. I’m not buying him as an efficient shooter at all, as a rookie.

He’s done a much better job taking care of the ball in pre-season compared to his shotty summer league performance, only turning the ball over once in over 80 minutes, but obviously he’s going to have some bumps in the regular season. I would think he’d be around 3.1 or so in the 24.5 minutes per game I gave him in my prediction.

[HobbyOGParticipant]

I think your standards are pretty high for alot of these rookies..example, Tim Hardway Junior ave 8.4 pts a game? NY is full of guards and he is suppose to do that in 18 minutes?

[HobbyOGParticipant]

I think your standards are pretty high for alot of these rookies..example, Tim Hardway Junior ave 8.4 pts a game? NY is full of guards and he is suppose to do that in 18 minutes?

[JoeWolf1]

Yeah, the do have a lot of guards, but Felton and whats left of Beno will only play point guard. Prigioni is a combo that is more PG than 2, and with Melo seeing more and more time at the 4, it opens New York up to a lot of 3 guard lineups..especially with a wing defender like Shumpert who can guard a small forward. It may be a little high, but I think Hardaway Jr. surprises some people this season.

8.4 ppg in 18 mpg is only 16.8 ppg per 36 minutes, it’s not like I’m putting him at an above 20 ppg per 36 or anything crazy. It may be a shade high, but New York’s core players are getting old and they’re not a contender, I think they start to experiment with younger lineups.

[JoeWolf1]

Yeah, the do have a lot of guards, but Felton and whats left of Beno will only play point guard. Prigioni is a combo that is more PG than 2, and with Melo seeing more and more time at the 4, it opens New York up to a lot of 3 guard lineups..especially with a wing defender like Shumpert who can guard a small forward. It may be a little high, but I think Hardaway Jr. surprises some people this season.

8.4 ppg in 18 mpg is only 16.8 ppg per 36 minutes, it’s not like I’m putting him at an above 20 ppg per 36 or anything crazy. It may be a shade high, but New York’s core players are getting old and they’re not a contender, I think they start to experiment with younger lineups.

[CoolidgerParticipant]

Where is CJ McCollum?

Also, I like how realistic you are for most of these, they match or are pretty close to a lot of my projections.

[CoolidgerParticipant]

Where is CJ McCollum?

Also, I like how realistic you are for most of these, they match or are pretty close to a lot of my projections.

[JoeWolf1]

Shit! Haha, I don’t know how I forgot him!

With Mo Williams’ addition, and with his injury recovery I think he gets brought along slowly at first but settles in to these numbers.

C.J. McCollum – 20 mpg – 9.1 ppg 2.2 rpg 2 apg 43/36/84

[JoeWolf1]

Shit! Haha, I don’t know how I forgot him!

With Mo Williams’ addition, and with his injury recovery I think he gets brought along slowly at first but settles in to these numbers.

C.J. McCollum – 20 mpg – 9.1 ppg 2.2 rpg 2 apg 43/36/84

[Toronto16Participant]

By the looks of it you have Ben Mclemore winning rookie of the year.

[Toronto16Participant]

By the looks of it you have Ben Mclemore winning rookie of the year.

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

You have no credibility on this site because you have terrible posts…

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

You have no credibility on this site because you have terrible posts…

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

That post was meant for the other guy, not JoeWolf…

[TarHeelRavenParticipant]

That post was meant for the other guy, not JoeWolf…

[Brew Meister SmithParticipant]

You mean that 44ear bugger? That is actually what I assumed you were responding to.

What is up with that douche anyway?

Guess they removed his posts and you got left holding the bag.

[Brew Meister SmithParticipant]

You mean that 44ear bugger? That is actually what I assumed you were responding to.

What is up with that douche anyway?

Guess they removed his posts and you got left holding the bag.

[The8thDeadlySinParticipant]

I thought you were saying that to JoeWolf and i was gonna throw a fit.. LoL

[The8thDeadlySinParticipant]

I thought you were saying that to JoeWolf and i was gonna throw a fit.. LoL

[JoeWolf1]

With just a couple games left, I’ll go ahead and bump my predictions. 

Did anyone think Anthony Bennett would struggle this much as a rookie? I was way off on him, and I undershot MCW’s rookie impact as well, and I overshot Ben McLemore, C.J. McCollum, and Cody Zeller. I also overshot Rice, and Archie Goodwin because I had no idea Pheonix would be so good and he’d have less time to play. 

I hit really close with 

Victor Oladipo – actual – 31.4 mpg – 14 ppg 4.2 rpg 4.1 apg – 42/33/78

Trey Burke – actual – 32 mpg – 12.4 ppg 5.6 apg 2.4 rpg – 38/34/89

Kelly Olynyk – actual – 19.6 mpg – 8.2 ppg 5.1 rpg 1.1 apg – 46/35/81

KCP – actual – 19.5 mpg – 5.6 ppg 1.9 rpg .7 agp – 39/30/79

I also got close with Steven Adams and his increased role, Otto and Len having lackluster years, and Tim Hardaway Jr. playing a legit role with the Knicks.

Anyways, I just do this for fun, but I always gotta bump it to see which guys I did well with, which ones I completely whiffed on and who surprised us all.

 

[JoeWolf1]

With just a couple games left, I’ll go ahead and bump my predictions. 

Did anyone think Anthony Bennett would struggle this much as a rookie? I was way off on him, and I undershot MCW’s rookie impact as well, and I overshot Ben McLemore, C.J. McCollum, and Cody Zeller. I also overshot Rice, and Archie Goodwin because I had no idea Pheonix would be so good and he’d have less time to play. 

I hit really close with 

Victor Oladipo – actual – 31.4 mpg – 14 ppg 4.2 rpg 4.1 apg – 42/33/78

Trey Burke – actual – 32 mpg – 12.4 ppg 5.6 apg 2.4 rpg – 38/34/89

Kelly Olynyk – actual – 19.6 mpg – 8.2 ppg 5.1 rpg 1.1 apg – 46/35/81

KCP – actual – 19.5 mpg – 5.6 ppg 1.9 rpg .7 agp – 39/30/79

I also got close with Steven Adams and his increased role, Otto and Len having lackluster years, and Tim Hardaway Jr. playing a legit role with the Knicks.

Anyways, I just do this for fun, but I always gotta bump it to see which guys I did well with, which ones I completely whiffed on and who surprised us all.

 

[MettaWorldDurant1Participant]

Pretty spot on other than a few players who under produced, as for the best? MCW got a lot of minutes this year with no real talent behind him. ROY a la Damian Lillard

[MettaWorldDurant1Participant]

Pretty spot on other than a few players who under produced, as for the best? MCW got a lot of minutes this year with no real talent behind him. ROY a la Damian Lillard

[Ghost01Participant]

 I give you a +1 just for the fact you put so much time into differentiating between this truly god awful rookie class. But I mostly agree with your assessment. 

[Ghost01Participant]

 I give you a +1 just for the fact you put so much time into differentiating between this truly god awful rookie class. But I mostly agree with your assessment. 

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