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JNixon-Iggy9's Countdown to the Draft: 60 Prospects in 30 Days (4&3)

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JNixon-Iggy9's Countdown to the Draft: 60 Prospects in 30 Days (4&3)

4: Brandon Knight, 6’3 177, PG/SG, Kentucky, Fr.

A highly decorated HS prospect that had to the task of replacing John Wall, and leading a leading a prestigious program like Kentucky, it’s safe to say Knight had a good deal of pressure coming into college. Knight had an up and down season, but he was pretty productive as a player and led Kentucky to the Final 4, which is farther than the year before when Kentucky had 4 1st round picks. A smart kid who had great grades in both HS and college. Doesn’t appear to be very talkative or a great vocal leader. Physically, Knight has the size to play PG position effectively, although he will certainly play some SG. At 6’3 with a 6’6 wingspan, he has good length and height, although he’s a little light at 177. His frame definitely capable of adding weight and he’s already pretty strong, but he should be able to add 10 or possibly more lbs without losing any athleticism. The athleticism is there with Knight, he doesn’t use it on the floor as much as a lot of guys though. His speed and quickness or both strong, and he’s a solid leaper with nice agility and body control as well. He understands how to change speeds well, which is good for a player his age.

Offensively, Knight is pretty streaky and was inconsistent as a Fr., but he’s a nice talent on this end. Knight has a nice jump shot, able to shoot off the bounce, spotting up or coming off screens. NBA range and a nice touch. He’s streaky with it, but his shot has nice potential and he was reasonably efficient still. Mechanics and elevation are solid. Shot selection does need improvement though. As a slasher, Knight is decent but he has some things holding him back. While he’s got solid quickness and agility, he has improvable ball-handling skills for a PG. His handle isn’t bad by any stretch, but he doesn’t have the advanced handle that most top PG’s have and his strong hand (his right) is much better than his left. He will likely be able to improve it, but it is a concern for the moment. Also, Knight is very likely to settle for shots from the 7-10 ft area, and it makes him less efficient than he should be as a finisher. He has the tools to be effective around the rim and he showed it this past season, but the way he settles make him less of a factor to draw fouls and get to the line. This is the part of his game that he underutilizes his athleticism IMO. He’s a good FT shooter, and he’s got the athleticism and body to get to the rim, so it would be beneficial for him to look to draw fouls instead of settle for lower percentage shots like floaters and contested pull-ups. Very good pick and roll player, who can turn the corner or stick the shot off the bounce if you dive his screens. Doesn’t look to pass the ball as much as you’d like from a PG in the pick and roll game though. Knight’s PG skills are just as inconsistent as the rest of his game was, showing great passing skills and floor vision at times and other times looking for his own shots too much. He is much more likely to look for his own shot in the dribble drive and to slash and look for teammates, although he does have the ability to pass on the move. A bit turnover prone. In the games where he looked for his own shots too much, he struggled running the offense. But when he looked to create for others and be steady with his decisions, he struggled making shots. Definitely has upside and promise, but he needs a good deal of polish as a player and as a PG.

Knight has the ability to be a good defender, and he improved noticeably as the season wore on. Came into the season as a HS prospect known for competing on D more than most top-level guys, and he struggled with the speed of the game and with iffy intensity. But as the season wore on, his physical tools and intensity allowed him to be a pretty good defender. Has the athleticism to defend PG’s, and the length to defend SG’s in spurts as well, but that will come later in his career.

Knight has a profile that shows the promise he has as a player. He should be able to produce immediately for a team, but he’s a work in progress still. His ability to play off the ball and score along with his size will allow his team versatility in the backcourt. Still, he won’t grow into a strong starting PG until he gets more consistent, shows the ability to score efficiently and be a floor general at the same time, and continue to get stronger and mature on D. Still, he’s one of the best prospects in the draft and he has considerable upside.

3: Enes Kanter, 6’11 259, PF/C, Kentucky, Fr. (19 years old)

Kanter is the one prospect in this draft who most fans have seen the least of. A guy who hasn’t played organized basketball for a year a change after being ineligible at Kentucky and leaving his pro team in Turkey playing for a seedy prep school, Kanter has a bunch of unanswered questions about his game and most just simply haven’t seen him much play very much. Physically, Kanter certainly looks the part of a PF/C prospect, at 6’11 with a very strong 259 frame and a 7’1 wingspan. His lower body is strong as well. Athletically, Kanter doesn’t appear to be explosive vertically, but he does appear to be fairly smooth and he’s not really slow, running the floor pretty well and moving fine in tight spaces.

Offensively, Kanter has the most intrigue. He shows a soft touch and very good hands around the rim, and he can finish with both hands and turn both shoulders around the rim. He shows a nice post game already, possesses jump hooks, a turnaround jumper, a basic drop step and up-and-unders based on how his man plays him. Able to establish position with his strong base. He sometimes can get his shots blocked because of his lack of quickness and elevation, and his footwork at times can lead to awkward situations, but these are correctable and he runs into these problems only sporadically when I’ve watched him. Still, it appears likely he will have to learn how to adjust his scoring skills to the NBA game, as all guys do. Able to face up and play the high post. Can make 18 foot shots pretty well. Will be a pick and pop threat. Has 3-point range, but likely won’t be out there very much. Not bad passing skills or selfishness. Willing offensive rebounder. Has a knack for scoring within the immediate basket area and in traffic, even though he’s not very explosive or a great athlete. Adept at using the glass to make shots. Will create contact to get to the line, and has the strength and touch to get And-1 opportunities.

Kanter has upside on D, and he’s been decent in the games I’ve watched. He will be a functional positional defender, and he appears to play with enough energy to compensate for his OK athleticism. Has the timing and size to be a shot-blocking threat, but he doesn’t seem like a huge factor in weakside D as a shot-blocker. Solid defensive rebounder.

Kanter has talent offensively and his touch is apparent, and he’s not all that bad a defender. I’ve looked at all the film Jonathan Givony has, and watched Kanter play on TV a few times, and I don’t think his D is as bad as he likes to make it out to be, since he’s known to overreact on things. Of course, he could be right and Kanter will not defend hard like he did in a few HS games and get smoked by NBA C’s, but that’s unlikely. I would be able to argue it tougher, but I simply haven’t seen Kanter enough to talk about it in great detail. Kanter could be a Al Hoford meets Andrew Bogut type, or he could be Darko Milicic. Based on where I have him, I think the former is more likely though.


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In what games did you scout

In what games did you scout Kanter? Prep school? U-18 Championships? Euroleague? Hoop Summit?

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When he was in the EuroLeague

When he was in the EuroLeague and I watched the Hoop Summitt.

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Knight is a little

Knight is a little overrated..Alot of you guys might be too young to have watched Kenny Smith when he played,but thats who Knight reminds me of..Except Kenny Smith was a better athlete...Knight is a great shooter just like Smith..And both knew how to play the game...Smith survived in the league so long becuz he knew how to play the game..But he wasnt talented enuff to be among the elite point guards...Smith was a solid nba player but was never a all star type player..

Knight's stock elevated becuz he had a great tournament..Around January remember alot of scouts said he wasnt even a 1st rounder?

Knight will be good but not great...

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Brandon Knight = Safest guard

Brandon Knight = Safest guard prospect in the Lotto hands downs! Dude is a winner he has been Mr. Clutch since the Mickey D's game for all you guys who think he is a fluke. I believe he can be that Star caliber guy we all been looking for out of this class personally. He DOES NOT have to have the ball in his hands to be effective.

Unlike Irving, Knight can play either guard spot which is a plus-plus for anyone who is looking for that combo. He closes out games! What more do you want out of him? Is it because he is not a Derrick Rose, Tyreke Evans type of player with flash he does not get the love he deserves? I would really like to know what separates Irving from Knight.

In all actuality Irving is the #1 prospect off of HS hype, because how can you be a #1 prospect off of 11 games played. Not to knock Irving, but what has he done that was more special then Knight this last past season, besides try to pad stats uin the tourney to not make us forget about him?

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There are no safe prospects

There are no safe prospects in this draft.

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Yes there are. There are guys

Yes there are. There are guys that would be reaches in past drafts if they go where they're projected, but there are safe picks in this draft though.

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Jorrye

Dude, I can not wait for your profiles of Joevan Catron and Bangaly Fofana! The new era of the NBA is hear!

Seriously though, man, these have been awesome and I have been looking forward to seeing where you rank each player. Fantastic job my friend, each series of rankings you have released, you have just gotten better as a writer. Incredibly well done, be proud of this and I really hope that people take notice of this excellent work on your behalf.

One suggestion: In either the last post or in another post (either really), make a list of your final 60 guys and maybe the links to all of your synopses. This just makes it easier for everyone to know who you have gone over and just show where you have ranked everybody. Even without this, though, incredible job!

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yeah you're right... But I

yeah you're right... But I think there are very few.

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Thanks for the suggestion and

Thanks for the suggestion and the compliments MikeyV! I'll definitely post the reports and links tomorrow or Wednesday for all the porfiles I did.

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Rudeboy - that's actually

Rudeboy - that's actually perfect. Knight is a ton like the Jet. Great call.

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"In all actuality Irving is

"In all actuality Irving is the #1 prospect off of HS hype, because how can you be a #1 prospect off of 11 games played. Not to knock Irving, but what has he done that was more special then Knight this last past season, besides try to pad stats uin the tourney to not make us forget about him?"

Kyrie Irving was sensational when he did play. It's not like he went out there and was mediocre. Knight had a very up and down season, Irving was great in just about every game he played. I think it's past HS hype and more about Irving actually being a good player. He certainly was better in every game I saw him play in comparison to Knight. And I tend to believe you can't really say Irving put up stats just so people could remember him. It's not like what he did in the previous games were just going to be pushed to the side. Also, if he can just put up 28 pts and 3 assists and 15 shots in a tournament game "just to make us not forget about him" doesn't that just further prove that he's a tremendous talent? You make that sound like it's real easy.

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I was soft on Irving due to

I was soft on Irving due to scouting reports having him too much like Conley, who is in no way shape or form a #1, ever... but the statheads all have Irving #1 and I'm changing my former stance. He's #1 and earns it. He won't be Paul - Paul is just special - but he will be great.

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Irving plays like John Lucas,

Irving plays like John Lucas, Kalin's dad..The older Lucas was the top pick in 1976 and lasted 14 years in the league...

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