[PrecociousNeophyteParticipant]

basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/212504/Fredette_Has_36_Inch_Vertical_Leap 

I guess we will see at the combine if this is true.

[PlatypusParticipant]

 if he had a 36 inch vertical, he wouldnt have blown that easy dunk

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

But he doesn’t have Rubio’s shaggy hair.  lol

He might be the steal of the draft if he drops to 11 or 12.  Cavs need to look at him at 8 or so if they use their top pick on a big man.

Tyreke and Jimmer also sounds pretty interesting.

[kevnix5Participant]

I don’t know I think he will be like JJ Redick, great shooter, weak defender. Redick has improved his d since coming into the league but still not really good enough to be a full time starter playing 30+ minutes a night. I see Jimmer being the same thing. Great college player, very likable person, but will likely get drafted before players that have more upside and are better all around players.

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Have a 36 inch vert, but for a point guard in the NBA, that is pretty average. I am not hating on his athleticism, if he has anything above a 32 I am impressed and I was sure he would be in the 32-34 range, but it is all relative to the people he will be going up against. His skill set is great, but PG is probably one of the harder positions to defend due to the incredible quickness and change of speed most guys in the league possess. They will have a hard time catching Jimmer, but I think Jimmer will have a much harder time catching most of the guys he goes up against.

The reason Derrick Rose is so incredible is that he uses his size (which is solid for a PG), strength and athleticism to create shots for himself seemingly at will. That guy is already one of the hardest guys to stay in front of in the game, and he has improved his perimeter game greatly. Jimmer has a fantastic perimeter game, but will he be able to create space for himself like he did in the NCAA with incredible athletes who will know not to give him any breathing room? That is the ultimate question, and I do not think his vert being 36 inches answers that. We know he is a good athlete, he is not like most shooters who come in and get labelled as unathletic, but he may have a tough time playing defense against NBA PG’s and he will struggle to create shots for himself, at least much more so than he did at BYU.

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

Speaking of 36 inches…

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

No, Jimmer is not gonna be a "Rose stopper" but Irving, Walker, and Knight won’t be either.  Jimmer can shoot and score so he might be best suited to being a sixth man. 

In some ways he is like OJ Mayo.  Mayo can score and shoot, but he doesn’t have elite quickness or great length even though he is a very good player.  OJ is best suited to being a sixth man who can come in and score, shoot, handle the ball, and be a game changer. 

OJ is a high-level combo guard as are Jason Terry and Jamal Crawford.  I would probaby put Jimmer in this category.  But, that might be worth the 6th or 7th pick in a mediocre draft.  

If the Kings fall in the draft and Knight and Walker are off the bench then they should take a look at Jimmer.  He can be a part of a great 3 guard rotation with Tyreke and Thornton. 

I like him on the Jazz to go along with their good big men.  He could be a good backup to Devin Harris and possibly the future starter.  Then at 12 they can go after a wing player like Alec Burks or Kawhi Leonard. 

Yeah, he is a great scorer but he doesn’t have great speed.  Kemba is a great scorer with great speed but some draft guys don’t like him.  Go figure…

Jimmer might also work as a change of pace guard for the Bucks.  He does what Jennings doesn’t. 

I actually like Jimmer’s pro prospects better than Ricky Rubio though.  Rubio sounds like a slower, less-athletic Rajon Rondo.  Jimmer, on the other hand, can score, has extended NBA range, and can handle the ball.  Jimmer is stronger than Rubio and might have a better vertical.  Not sure which one is faster, although it might be closer than one might think.  

I guess Jimmer needs a great fit, but I think all the draft picks do.  

Interestingly enough, there is really only one great shooting guard left in the playoffs (Wade).  The othe teams are going with defensive glue guys (Bogans, Stevenson, Thabo).  Even the Grizzlies had that with Tony Allen.  The combo guard off the bench might be just as important now.  The Mavs have Jason Terry, and also JJ Barea.  The Thunder have Harden.  The Grizzlies had OJ Mayo and the Hawks had Crawford.  The Bulls lack a true combo guard as a sixth man but their best shooter at the wing (Korver) comes off the bench. 

Bench scoring is very important now.  So Jimmer might be a very important player.  I would value a first rate scoring/shooting sixth man over a mediocre starting guard or wing man. 

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

If he’s lucky

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

36 inch vertical is average for NBA standards for a player 6’1-6’2.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Even if he has a 36 inch vert he doesnt use it so its worthless.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Athleticism is more than having a good vert in a test but actually applying it to game use.  He has yet to really showcase that vert and may not have the explosiveness to utilize it. Also it is his lateral quickness that is said to be a problem.

[mamadouParticipant]

Steve nash has 38,5 inch vert.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 He uses his vert: he gets good elevation on his jump shots.  I don’t think he will be a great finisher in the NBA, but he will be able to score.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

Juice posted a 41 inch vert at the combine that he never puts on display

[iguapops420Participant]

 Steve Blake also had a 36inch vert. Jordan Farmar was somewhere around 40 or 42. Point is, isn’t gonna help much. 

[darius3milesParticipant]

I guess no one saw the Sports Illustrated cover.  That’s pretty useful in getting your shot off over people. 

[JNixonParticipant]

Exactly. You don’t watch him play if you dont think his vert helps him. He gets very good elevation on his jump shot. He blew a dunk, yes, and it looked kinda bad. But he had about 2 other converted dunks to make up for that. He’s no worse an athlete than Stephen Curry

[nhlkdog411Participant]

Lol at everyone saying the average vert is 36 inches…its not even close..the average no step vert (which is what a *real* vert is)last year at the combine was like 28 inches…even with a step it was 32…36 is WELL above average even for a guard.

 

http://www.nbadraft.net/nba-draft-combine-athleticism-test-results

[TallmanNYCParticipant]

Jimmer’s 36 inch jump is clearly his full running jump. I don’t believe anyone ever really talks about one step jump. I predict that Jimmer’s "no step" jump is going to be 28 inches, which will be below average for a NBA PG draftee (though probably not below average for the guys who are actually playing in the league because a lot of the older guys don’t have their hops anymore). And I think "no step" is a better indication of athletic talent and explosiveness that is useful in the NBA.

[Lotto StudParticipant]

"I guess no one saw the Sports Illustrated cover. That’s pretty useful in getting your shot off over people."

"Exactly. You don’t watch him play if you dont think his vert helps him. He gets very good elevation on his jump shot."

Lou Williams has a 40+ inch vert & it does not help him one bit unless he is attacking the rim, because he is a set shooter.

[JNixonParticipant]

Well Jimmer makes clear use of his vert. He is more than a set shooter as well. He can shoot off the dribble, spotting up or off screens. And he can do so with range out to about 30 ft.

[fliptonnParticipant]

 

[Lotto StudParticipant]

More elevation than Ray Allen

[aamir543Participant]

I am a warriors fan, and for the last 3 months, Ihave heard people saying that Jimmer is just as good as curry, or Jimmer is better than curry. That is an insult ot curry’s talent. If he does do well in the NBA, i will happy for him, but lets see him play at the big stage before we start comparing  

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