Everybody that was high on Jeremy Lamb in the draft....
Last 3 Games:
33 pts 11-19 shooting 2-6 from 3 9-10 from the line 8 boards 3 dimes 3 steals 1 block 5 TOs
30 pts 12-18 shooting 5-6 from 3 1-1 from the line 9 boards 8 dimes 1 steal 2 blocks 2 TOs
30 pts 12-16 shooting 3-5 from 3 3-3 from the line 8 boards 2 dimes 4 steals 1 block 3 TOs
I've caught a couple of Tulsa games since he was one of my favorite prospects from last yr's draft. He's definitely getting his shots up, but the thing that's surprised me the most is his playmaking ability. He's a pretty nice passer coming off curls and PnR.
Too bad D-League doesn't count for anything and tons of people tear it up then don't do crap in the League...
In all seriousness tho I am really happy he is playing good and making progress as a player! Like Siggy said, the guy can make plays. He is a lot more than just a catch and shoot player and I have no doubt in my mind that OKC will bring him and PJ3 along slowly AND develop them both into solid players at the very least. They are so good at drafting and developing young players and these two guys have an enormous amount of potential.
Just curious what Lambs defense has been like, in college it didnt seem like he used his length to distrupt offenses , the numbers look good but just maybe since you watched him you could give a bit of insite.
Edit* this was meant for siggy sorry
He was pretty decent in college (at least his defensive metrics indicated he was), but he has a lot to learn on that end. On the ball his stance is too upright. He has the advantage of being able to play off his man and still contest his shot, but he's a prime candidate to get picked off. He has trouble getting around and fighting through screens. At the college level, his length allowed him to recover. Off the ball he can be disruptive. You can tell he tries to anticipate and make plays in the passing lanes, but he has a tendency to cheat, playing too far off his man and getting caught watching the ball.
He's gotta get stronger, not get stuck on screens as easily and get lower in his stance IMO. I think he has potential to be a disruptive defender off the ball and maybe an average on the ball defender who can contest shots well. Body strength will likely always be an issue.
Well Siggy is more than welcome to answer it lol but I personally think it has been solid. Again, he is playing against other D-leaguers so it isn't saying a whole lot.. but he has been using his length more to his advantage by playing passing lanes and getting some nice blocks as well. He definitely has the physical tools to be disruptive on D though and playing with Thabo Sefolosha is going to help a ton in gaining more knowledge on D while guarding Westbrook and Durant in practice will give him the experience to actually get better before he becomes a big time role player for their team.
Him and Ross were the two I thought would be the best sg's coming out of the previous draft. Lamb length, solid defense, shooting ability and being able create for himself made him the most complete sg out of the group.
I don't know if he is third of fourth SG for OKC as Liggins got a start at SG. If he was playing for the Bobcats or Wizards he would be tearing it up and could well be in the running for all-rookie team.
As a pistons fan i would happily give up a 8-10th pick in this years draft for Lamb.
I still feel Lamb and Beal will be the two best SG's from last years draft.
I feel like Waiters and Lamb will be the two best SG's from this draft. I'm surprised at Lamb's playmaking ability he's shown in the D-League and even the few burns he's had with the Thunder. He's really passing the ball well and shooting efficiently which were his biggest weaknesses.
Waiters could be the best SG prospect once he stops shooting fade-aways and contested 3s. He can drive and draw contact/avoid OF's so well, and his jumper isn't all that bad either. Although his shot selection has improved as of late, he still has stints of awful choices with the ball in his hands.
Well that is to be expected of a 20 year old shooting guard whose really getting his first extended playing time in over 2 years as we all know he didn't really play as a freshman and came off the bench as a sophomore, so Waiters is lacking in experience big time.
But that's the most exciting thing about Waiters is despite his age, and limited experience he has still made an instant impact in the league because of his physical tools and skills. He needs to transform from a scoring punch to an all around guard but he has more then enough ability to do so.
Waiters is a very underrated playmaker and passer. He makes solid passes and does a good job of limiting his turnovers. Another very underrated aspect of Waiters game is his ability to shoot off the catch and from spot up situations. People think that just because he's such a gifted ball handler and slasher that he's one of them guys that has to shoot off the dribble which isn't the case.
I really feel like Waiters is the best SG prospect from this draft class because of his versatility in being able to score to the ball. He can play off of somebody or control the ball himself. Besides Rivers, the rest of the top SG's are best playing off of somebody: Beal, Ross, and Lamb.
Out of the Beal, Ross, and Lamb group I feel like Lamb has the most potential because of his physical tools, and his pure scoring instincts.
I have reminiscents of T-Mac watching that first video. I hope the Thunder don't bring him along too slowly because he can definitely play. I think he is going to be a star or a second option in league.
Thanks for the Links Joey!
I'm really impressed with the way he's playing in the D-League. Like most of you guys I really didn't know he has so nice handles and is really doing a nice job of setting up his teammates. He is playing the passing lanes very well and on offense is using BOTH hands to go left and right what I really liked. Unfortunetly interior defense isn't much of a task in the D-League and I take his rebounding stats with a grain of salt but non the less he really looks like a very well rounded player and not a all so skiny for an NBA player. I have to admit he hasn't the widest shoulders to carry much more muscles but he seems to be all right so far. He hast a strong neck, his arms are okay and his lower body strengh seems to be underrated as he he has a nice thick thighs and a great vertical - the T-Mac comparisions aren't too much of a reach athletically if you ask me even if T-Mac was even more fluidly gliding through the paint.
I really like Teams who give their young players the opportunity to develope in the D-League cause I really believe Players need to play a decent amount of minutes to develpe and be effective. As a Thunder fan I really love their young core of Lamb, PJ3 and Reggie Jackson and it's nice to see that Lamb has no problems playing 30+ minutes a game while putting up great numbers.
On the other hand, the Thunder are always praised for developing their young talents but you have to look closer at the whole picture. Durant, Westbrook, Jeff Green, Nick Collison and now Ibaka all played a ton of minutes in their early careers. Harden and Ibaka not so much liek Westbrook or KD but they all played a lot and were allowed to make mistakes. So right now the Thunder are contending and can't afford to rely on their young players let alone Rookies like Lamp or PJ3. The NBA is not 2K13 where it does't make a difference if a player is a veteran or a greenhorn.
You players need to play minutes best case on a good NBA team or in case of the Thunder in D-League to develope, have game experience AND are allowed to make mistakes.
I really love the Rookie season of Drummond for example. Many people are asking the Pistons to play him more but imo he isn't ready yet. Look at his teammate Brandon Knight for example. He played significant minutes for the Pistons in his rookie year and was overchallanged with what was asked to do for this team. He would have been in a better spot with a veterant in front of him where he hast time to develope. On other hand Drummond is asked to play 20 - 25 mins a game and is not overplayed with this amount of mins.
Still, Lamb seems to be a really well rounded player and aside from the playmaking skills he has shown in the Links above he also is a VERY effective player without the ball, a deadly shooter and a really nice player coming off screens or on the offensive glass, what is really needed out of him as I'm sure the Thunder really don't need another ball dominant player like Harden to develope. I really hope the Thunder give him time to develope to bring in him in when he is consistent enough to play 20+ mins.
All in all a nice player by now and a great propect for the future!
BTW: Reggie Jackson is averaging 28, 7 and 8 in 3 games in the D-League this season and we shouldn't read too much into stats like this even if Jeremy played 14 games this year averaging 21, 5 and 4.
No love for Perry Jones? Dude has been very Lamar Odomish in his stint in the D league, once PJ3 finds his niche on offense watch out
Oh Perry had some nice games in the D-League but not very Odom like imo. He's not the ballhandler Odom is (was) nor has he the same talent setting up teammates. Perry is superior to Odom athletically in my opinion but not as skilled as Odom was.
Perry Jones is special but he has to prove to be a consistent player and needs to find a way to crack the rotation. Baybe he is a long term answer at the 4 cause the Thunder really need mor scoring from their big men and they can slide Ibala to the 5 at times. But if he wants to play the 4 consistantly, he really needs to play with a little more anger and fire.
Saying somebody needs to play with more anger and fire is a matter of perception to me. Just because somebody doesn't scream and play with an aggression that can be seen on their face doesn't mean they don't play intense.
Another matter of perception was that because Perry didn't increase his production in his sophomore year people were saying he lacked a work ethic which was so far from true because Perry was actually used with more versatility then anybody in college last year which was to his detriment. Instead of having him face up and take people off the dribble and become a slashing forward like a Thomas Robinson did, or throw Perry in the block and let him take his licks as he tried to bang in the post. Baylor had PJ3 do a little bit of everything which never allowed him to excel at one thing.
I really feel like PJ3 has very special potential as a SF in the league because of his height, 7' in sneakers, and his athleticism. Perry has the quickness, agility, and speed of a SG and can guard the perimeter. PJ3 has actually been studying Bruce Bowen on defense.
it's possible that i would take him over any rookie SG and any SG prospect in this yeats draft too (still undecided on Shabazz potential)
I'd take shabazz and mcclemore over lamb but nonetheless he's a great proSpect and as a pistons fan I'd trade a late lottery pick for him
Jeremy Lamb is ready to bring a title to OKC this year!
Hes played well enough to package in a trade for KG