Jennings to Mavs?
Bleacherreport posts that Marc Stein reports that the Mavs have interest in Jennings. In my opinion, a backcourt of Mayo & Jennings would have too few shots for both of them. Plus, who would the Mavs have that the Bucks might want?
For the Bucks on the other hand, they should trade Jennings away. A backcourt of both him and Ellis is just to small, better try and find a good player next to Ellis and trade Jennings away before you have to resign him.
Jazz should try hard to get jenning. Maybe Milsap and first round pick would do
I wouldn't trade Millsap straight up for Jennings, much less offer an additional draft pick.
1. Jennings is about to demand a massive contract ($10M+/year), which is more than he's worth.
2. Jennings cannot defend. Don't let his spg numbers fool you. He picks off a steal here or there, but he's a swinging door at the top of the key most of the time and gets out-muscled by everyone.
3. Jennings is inefficient. While he gets points, he has a bad jack rate and an overall fg% of .395. That is flat-out terrible and will never be conducive to winning.
4. Jennings doesn't seem to like Minnesota, which is understandable since he's from Compton. So... how well would he like Utah?
At the end of the day, unlike many, I really like Jennings and I believe he possesses the upside potential to be a Tony Parker-esque point guard. However, like most players, he will likely never reach his potential. Moreover, he has many red flags and in the long run is likely to have an unreasonably high price tag. I just don't see the value in trading for him.
Why would any team want Jennings? He's a below average point guard with terrible shot selection and is hellbent on getting a contract he doesn't deserve, he hasn't shown significant improvement since his rookie year also
Why would any team want Jennings? He's a below average point guard with terrible shot selection and is hellbent on getting a contract he doesn't deserve, he hasn't shown significant improvement since his rookie year also.
Exactly. The biggest mistake an average team can make is tying up $15+ million a year on a pretty good player. It ties up a large chunk of the salary cap for a 4 or 5 year window on a guy that isn't going to make them a contender.
Great players, not good players, make championship contenders. In the rare circumstances that a team of good players is championship caliber (early 2000s Pistons, turn of the century Trail Blazers, etc) you need at least seven or eight good players on a team and you won't be able to afford that many good players if you're signing one or two of them to ridiculous contracts.
Teams would want Brandon Jennings because you can do a lot worse..
Jennings is a restricted free agent, so Milwaukee has options. I have the feeling this is the Eric Gordon situation revisited. Meaning Jennings wants out of Milwaukee and the Bucks end up matching any offer Jennings gets on the free agent market and Jenning is stuck in Milwaukee for the next 4 years.
Mavs have been linked to a lot of teams and trades, but what assets do they have to give up? Obviously Dirk isn't going anywhere and they seem to want to resign Mayo next year.
BJ is a "hollywood" type of dude.. He wants to play in a bigger market, hes from compton i would love the Lakers to try and get him if Howard does not sign. But last year he said he would love to play in Toronto because of the women haha, he said its his favorite city and his best friend is on the Raptors. Demar Derozan
Lakers have too much money tied up in Nash and have absolutley no cap space for next year, they're really financially screwed
From a per standpoint, of the 30 starting point guards, there are 16 point guards worst than Brandon Jennings.
So as I said earlier you can do much worse than Brandon Jennings, and he actually has shown improvement in his game. Improved assists rate, still one of the best point guards when it comes to turnovers.
16 starting point guards who average more turnovers than Brandon Jennings.
He's the 5th highest scoring point guard.
He's the the 5th highest point guard in steals.
In Points/Rebounds/Assists total averages, he's 10th of all point guards.
Tied for 10th in double doubles for point guards.
So at worst he's a point guard who's ranked from 10-14. Like I said, teams want Brandon Jennings because you can do much worse.
I'm probably in this thought all my own but I think if he'd played with a better team, his field goal percentage would be better, his assists would go up, and people would look at him differently. He can pass. At Milwaukee he really can't and he still averages over 6 assists. I say if Dallas made the trade for Brandon Jennings, he averages around 16 points, 8 assists, 2 steals, 3 rebounds, and he'd shoot like 44%.
People may say 44% is still horrible but Russell Westbrook shoots 43% for his career and this season. Only one season over 44% for Russell Westbrook.
BJ would shoot less and pass more, people may not like him but numbers don't lie, you can do much worse than Brandon Jennings.
I dont think jennings will get a team anywhere. He is shooting 39% from the field, jacking up 17 shots a game. He is skinny for a point guard. He has improved very little from his rookie season, he isnt much of a leader. The NBA is more about efficiency than about scoring. Kemba Walker is the opposite of him, Kemba shot 37% his rookie season, he is shooting 43% this year. He has improved every year since he was a college freshmen and he is a leader.
Who ever spends more than 5 or 6 million on him is wasting their money. I honestly think that he is a borderline line starting point guard based on the fact he is inefficient when he plays.
Regardless, Jennings probably isn't going to Dallas unless they give up their 1st round pick. Even then, it's tough to match up salaries with Jennings while still giving Milwaukee an attractive piece.
Could Jennings be traded? Sure. But I personally don't think it'll happen, and I'd be shocked if it happened with Dallas unless a 3rd team was involved.
I know the Mavericks are desperate to re tool, but Jennings? Collison, while lacking Jennings elite upside (one that has yet to appear in anything but the occasional flash of brilliance) is an efficient, smart NBA starting PG who has really flourished under Rick Carlisle. Trading for Jennings is an incredibly risky move by Dallas....But one that could ultimately pay off for them. If Carlisle can get Collison and Mayo to improve in such a limited amount of time, his ability to unleash Jennings could be worth a 11-12 million a year deal.
As for Milwaukee, they would love to get a professional lead guard like Collison, who they could most likely lock up on a very reasonable long term contract, in exchange for Jennings. Say Collison and a protected future first round pick and unprotected second for Jennings? Maybe throw in a Jae Crowder?
In my mind, this is a great move for both teams.
Honestly, if I'm Milwaukee, I tell Dallas they'll talk about it if Dallas is willing to give up Kaman and take on Gooden's contract. If not, wait til the offseason and see if a team is dumb enough to give Jennings a max deal.
I love how Jennings reportedly thinks he doesn't get the attention he deserves because he's in a small market, when in reality, he's probably overrated because of being in a small market. Once he gets to a big market and is on TV more, he'll be exposed as an average PG that can be great on some nights and then be a combination of average and horrible the majority of the nights.
But yeah, unless Dallas is willing to give up a 1st round pick this year or take on Gooden's contract, I wouldn't trade him to Dallas.
Brandon Jennings wants big money?
But "LITERALLY" still has no right hand!
I'm not a huge Jennings fan, but I think if you're thinking about keeping Ellis over Jennings, you're crazy. Ellis is a great scorer, but after that what does he have to offer. You just can't have the ideal point guard to play alongside Monta. It didn't work with Steph, and look how the Warriors have been minus Monta. Jennings may be erratic at times, but I don't think the Bucks are close to a playoff team without him.
I don't think that's true. It's just harder to build around Ellis than it is Jennings. With Ellis, he needs to be paired with a bigger PG, like a Michael Carter-Williams/Jason Kidd mold. That's just a rare breed.
With Jennings you just need to find a normal sized SG that doesn't need the ball in his hands all the time.
The Bucks need to find a shooting guard that can defend and shoot that has more height. There a few guys in the draft that would fit in nicely. Then you move Ellis to 6th man and you put him on the court with 4 role players and he'll score all the points and be happy. It's less minutes but the same or more shots against 2nd teamers. A situation he would thrive in.
Jennings need to put on some weight and have a back court mate that can and shoot. When he passes to Ellis, the first he usually does is start dribbling, instead of moving the ball or shooting. They are not a match.
I think these moves would allow Milwaukee to improve dramatically.
I can say this because I am a die-hatd Bucks fan, Brandon Jennings sucks. Brandon Jennings is so overrated. He is a rail thin guard who can't defend. Don't let those steals fool you, just because he gets a steal here and there doesn't make him a good defender. Jennings also jacks up way too many shots. He's shooting less than 40%, and he hasn't improved while in the NBA. The Bucks would be smart to trade him now, while teams are willing to overrpay for him.
I think that the Bucks are on the verge of a complete rebuild. In my basketball lifetime, They've always been a fringe playoff team, never bad enough to get a decent lottery pick and never good enough to make a decent playoff run (obviously excluding those Allen/Robinson/Cassell teams). I understand that as one of the leagues least profitable franchises and locales, signing high level free agents and keeping a payroll near the luxury tax isn't usually an option for Milwaukee, so doing a small market complete rebuild .Build equity through the draft, sign key role players to reasonable contract and keep away from the financial time bomb represented by overpaying mid level free agents... in other words, build a team players want to play for.
Jennings and Ellis both represent the kinds of players that Milwaukee should avoid. I would move both of them for reasonable contracts and picks, while trying to jettison the Gooden contract. Keep Sanders, Henson, Harris and Ilysova. Make the rest of the roster available. The Blueprint for success has been laid out by other franchises, and it starts with an intelligent and pro active front office staff, financial responsibility and putting the health of the franchise before anything.
If Jennings wants a bigger market, give it to him.
I just read a report saying that Jennings has a new agent which obviously means he is looking for maximum $$ and / or trying to get a team that he likes.
Just looking around the league, PG is the deepest position. There are lots of quality PG's out there. Even the worst lotto teams have decent PG. Wash - Wall, Charlotte - Walker, NO Vasquez
Utah need a point guard. Dallas - is Jennings that much better than Collison ? Magic - would prob be an upgrade over Jameer Nelson. The Kings are undecided at PG and they have lots of assets to trade. Raptors - Lowry hasn't been great but a team of Jennings, Gay, DeRozen and Bargs there just wouldn't be enough shots to go round...
If Jennings goes away from the Bucks I think the Bucks can kiss there playoff appearence good bye. Jennings is the only reason why the Bucks has a chance to get to the Playoffs.
Look what happen to Dwill after he left the Jazz. Maybe jazz system can change the way he play
I don't like Jennings as a player and I think he's a below average starting PG, but I can understand why a team like the Mavs would be after him. The most attractive thing about Jennings right now is his RFA status and the small market for his services. Since he's still on a rookie contract, up for an extension that his current team is unwilling to give him and not in high demand, he could be had for relatively cheap. IOW, he's a prime buy low candidate. The Mavs wouldn't have to give up too much for him and they would retain his bird rights. There isn't a huge demand for PGs since there are so many good ones. Out of the teams who have room to sign Jennings this summer, how many would be actually willing to pay 10 mill for his services? Combine that with the fact that he wants to be in a big market and that pairs down his possible suitors even more. Whoever has his bird rights this summer retains the right to match, give him a lowball offer or offer him the cheap qualifying offer to keep him another yr. If they win the gamble and no other team overbids for him, they could have a motivated PG either trying to prove his doubters wrong or playing for an extension. Either way they could get a relatively cheap deal for a young starting PG. Maybe not a Kyle Lowry type bargain, but maybe a Mike Conley type deal.
I think its kind of ridiculous to say "What team would want Jennings" There are some BAD Pgs in this league, and 2 of the top guys have both tore their ACLs in the last 12 months. Sure a handful of teams have Rose, Kyrie, CP3, and Rondo. But some teams are starting Lin, J Nelson, D Collison, whoever the Jazz is starting these days, among some other mediocre at best point guards. Lets also note some "star" PGs like Deron Williams have been pretty terrible this year. And Steve Nash is either severely hurt, or severely washed up. Give Jennings this much...he has had to be the best player on his team since day 1, which doesn't make it easy for a small shoot first point guard to shoot a very high percentage in those conditions. Despite some of his shooting woes, the Bucks have never been horrible, and even made the playoffs one year. He really hasn't gotten the opportunity to play with any players who are complimentary to his skill set.
Don't get me wrong, Jennings is no star, but asking if he deserves to start in this league or infer anything along those lines is just foolish.
The question isn't just "What team would want Jennings" it's "What team would want Jennings at the price that he wants."
If he thinks he deserves a similar extension to what Holiday or Curry got, then he's dead wrong.
If he gets a 7.5-8 mill a yr offer then I think it'd be a no brainer to match.
The Bucks already offered him a deal that was basically the same as Curry and Holiday's. He wants significantly more.
If that's true, he either just doesn't want to re-sign with the Bucks or he's batsh!t delusional.
"The Bucks offered Jennings a four-year, $40 million extension, according to sources, but he turned it down."
Holiday got 4 years 41 million I believe, and Curry got 4 years 44 million.
Yeah I clicked around and saw that. I also saw another article that said that he wants the max.
SMH at this fool.