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JAZZ: I've been on the Udoh bandwagon, and still am, but...

I just have this feeling Patrick Patterson is going to be a very good player. He's smart, he's tough, and he's very skilled. I don't think he was able to show all he could do at Kentucky because he had to share the spotlight with four other terrific players. This kid is going to be a beast, and he's very hardworking. If Boozer leaves, he would be the ideal backup for Millsap (and who knows, maybe he'll prove to be a little bit better then Paul in time). He may get selected before 9 though.


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Trying to predict what the

Trying to predict what the Jazz will do with their 9th pick is a VERY tough one, even for the Jazz front office! It all really depends on whether or not Carlos Boozer will resign with the Jazz, something will know until the day Boozer comes out with his decision. If they Jazz retain Carloz Boozer, it wouldn't make much sense for them to draft Patterson. They would then have 3 undersized, yet all very athletic, power forwards; It would be hard to find Patterson playing time (Boozer will play 35 + minutes and Millsap DESERVES his PT) unless they play either of them at Center. IF Boozer stays it would make more sense for them to draft either a legit Center (Aldrich, possibly Monroe), or a swingman/small forward (Babbitt, George, Henry, Hayward) Once we know where we know Boozer decides to play it will be much easier trying to predict what the Jazz will do with their pick. Patterson, I beleive, will be a very good player someday, but if Boozer stays and they draft Patterson I just don't see him developing into the kind of player he could be

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Agreed

I think that we should draft Aldrich, but Patterson would be an ideal back-up if Booze leaves.

He doesn't fix our size or shotblocking issues, but he is tough and has a well-rounded offensive game. I wouldn't be upset at all if we drafted Patterson.

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Unfortunately, we won't know what Boozer is doing...

Until well after the draft, when free agency begins. So that's why I'm in the "best player available" mode of thinking, rather then just drafting for need. Because you can always make trades. Aldrich could bring some stuff to the table, but I don't think he has as much sheer talent, or potential as some other guys, and would be a bit of a reach at nine. If we were picking at 14 or 15 I'd take Cole in a heartbeat, but I don't think he's the best player still left on the board at 9. I really think Patterson is a can't miss prospect. As long as he isn't used as a center, he's got decent size and strength as a power forward. He's definitely not the project type. He's pretty polished. I guess I'm convinced that Boozer is going to leave. Maybe Miami, Chicago, or even the Knicks.

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Whether to keep Booz.

To me keeping Boozer would be a mistake, to be able to complete with the Lakers, Celts and other elite teams we need to get taller and longer in the front court. Resigning Booz doesn't do that. Then financially signing Booz would handicap the Jazz management. Booz wants max money or close to it and signing him would put the Jazz way over the cap(which means they would actually be paying Booz double his salary). Giving Booz max or close to it money would make trades or signing FA's very very difficult if not impossible. Flexibliltiy or manuverablilty would be gone.
The Jazz need to let Booz go and draft Udoh or Monroe, they both give the Jazz the length in the front court they need.
If Udoh or Monroe are gone by #9 , I hope the Jazz take Babbitt or George to fill the need at 3 and then we'll have to wait until 2011 to bring Tomic over to address the need for length.
Fes and KK need to be developed and Milsap and AK can man the PF postion if necessary.
I don't like the idea of drafting Aldrich, he isn't as tall as we need, (he is long though), and he isn't athletic enough. If he could play the 4 he wouldn't be bad but he is a center and to me he isn't any better than what we have.

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Aldrich may fall. He is

Aldrich may fall. He is solid but the thing is, His ceiling seems very low. I like him and I think he will be a quality center but compared to the guys that have come out that were ready out the gate like he is, he is probably at the bottom.

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I agree that it may be

I agree that it may be smarter for Jazz to let Boozer go and take Patterson who to me is very similiar to Boozer. They could also take Orton who could wind up being a very solid big in 2 years.

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I liked Patterson in the post

I liked Patterson in the post workout interviews. He seems to have an excellent attitude and confidence in his ability. I haven't really seen a lot of his play yet but he has the right mindset to fit in with Sloan's system.

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Boozer also talked about our

Boozer also talked about our draft pick on his espn interview. If we go big which i think we should that probably means we wont resign him. Millsap has proved he can be a really good player that can produce as much as Boozer for alot less money. I think that Greg Monroe would be a perfect fit for us. But i dont think he will be around at 9. Patterson probably wont be either. So that leaves Davis, Aldrich, Whiteside and Edoh. Out of those 4 player i would take Davis. He has good size and a 36 inch vert. Im just hoping we dont take Aldrich (which i can see happening).

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trade

I am an advocate for either trading up or down. Why not trade down get Sanders and get a scorer later in the draft. Or even Lawal. I feel this draft is deep. But after cousins and monroe come off the board. A lot of the players are the same.

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I agree with Captain L. We

I agree with Captain L. We need to get bigger. Patterson, would be the ideal backup, but he is just another 6'9 PF. We need to get taller 6'10 or above. Udoh, or Monroe are the only players that description. Davis might work with his vertical but again he is only 6'9, and that small size does not help us to contend with the Lakers/Magic/Celtics etc. Here is my offseason plan that I hope is followed to perfection.
1. Draft Udoh sign him to 2 million deal for about 2 or 3 years. (I believe that is the minimum for lottery picks)
2. Take a player like Ryan Thompson in the second round and intend to have him play the backup SF to replace Korver(in case he too leaves via free agency)
3 Resign Matthews for about 3 million.
4 Resign Fez for about 1 million.
5 Let Korver and Booz walk as a free agents (His shooting is nice but that is about all he brings to the table. He is not worth his 5 million that he receives now but he wont ask for less than that and we can deal without him. And now with Thompson we have a young taller player that can do more things than Korver can. He may be more polished than Korver was when he was drafted by Philly)
This leaves about 3 million with which to either sign another SF if we are not okay with just Thompson. (If I remember right the salary cap is at 57 million for next year.) With these plans in place we would have a total of 54 million. Another signing is not necessary but it could be useful.
Then next offseason
6 Resign AK for about 5 or 6 million. (10 million less than what he is receiving now) Sign our potential lottery pick from Memphis (ronnie brewer trade) for about 2 million again. And then our mid first rounder for about 1 million. With those plans we still have 10 million left over which we can use to bring over Tomic (Who could be a future Pau Gasol) For these two years we would be right at or under the Salary Cap!!!

If we do resign Booz then the option of bringing over Tomic would be impossible because we would be about 10 million over this year, 2 million next year, and then who knows how much the following years. By then Tomic would be too old and would never be able to come over. Let Booz go and get taller. 6'10 or above for any PF/C

Udoh is also a hard worker, he may not have a high ceiling like Davis or Monroe does but his hard work ethic, length and shot blocking ability are what intrigues me to him.

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I feel it is very important to keep Kyle Korver. He would cost about 5 million, but we need to lock that down. Shooting is something that every great team has a lot of. Then like you said, draft Udoh (or Aldrich/Monroe/Patterson). I think we are going international with our 2nd round pick or we'll possibly just sell it. I hope we can sign AK for cheaper next year too. Then with Tomic, and with the Grizzlies pick we still have a chance to bring some new talent on the team.

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I don't understand the negation above... every great team DOES need a knockdown 3pt shooter, and without Korver, the Jazz only have 2, (3 if you count CJ Miles) reliable 3pt shooters.Kirilenko and Matthews are inconsistent 3pt shooters. It would be a smart move for the Jaz o keep a guy like Korver around given his 3pt ability; pair that will DWIll and that can create a lot of oppurtunities for everyone on the team

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I don't understand the negation above... every great team DOES need a knockdown 3pt shooter, and without Korver, the Jazz only have 2, (3 if you count CJ Miles) reliable 3pt shooters.Kirilenko and Matthews are inconsistent 3pt shooters. It would be a smart move for the Jaz o keep a guy like Korver around given his 3pt ability; pair that will DWIll and that can create a lot of oppurtunities for everyone on the team

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I don't think Patterson is just "another" 6'9 power forward...

I get the feeling whatever teams drafts this kid won't regret it. I don't know that much about this Thompson kid, but the Jazz have a knack for finding talent in the second round. Tomic just signed a 3 year deal with Real Madrid this past January, and apparently has no immediate plans of playing in the NBA. He probably has some sort of buyout clause in his contract after this next season, but I wouldn't hold my breath that this guy will ever play in Salt Lake. These foreign teams are now offering big money to these European players, and they don't have as much incentive to come overseas anymore and play in the States. I believe Matthews will command more then 3 million on the free agent market. Remember how much money Portland offered Millsap? I'm thinking he's more in the 5-6 million range (if he's got a good agent). He opened alot of eyes in the playoffs. He won't be cheap to retain (though I expect he will be back with the Jazz). They basically committed to the kid when they traded Brewer to Memphis.

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Outside the top 5, the only big man the Jazz really like is Greg Monroe.

The rest would be backups, including Udoh who measured 6'8.75" without shoes, 6'9.75 with shoes, so let's not overstate how his height would benefit the Jazz. If you're a mediocre talent it doesn't matter how tall you are.

The Jazz don't plan on using their lottery pick on someone who'd be a career backup.

The Jazz would rather use their lottery pick on a projected starting SF since an immediate upgrade should be available at #9.

The undersized 6'6" CJ Miles (9.9 ppg 2.7 rpg 1.7 apg 42% fg.) is NOT the answer there.

Miles is second unit material.

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Cyclo...

I think your selling several of the "bigs" in this draft short. Then again it's all just opinion I guess. Outside of Turner and Johnson I'm not intrigued with any of the small forwards or shooting guards. Not a bit. I'd definitely use the pick on a power forward or center. It will be interesting to see which side of the fence the Jazz brass fall on. I'm sure they like other bigs besides Monroe. Patterson and Aldrich are definitely Jerry Sloan type players.

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