The Jazz are considering Xavier Henry...
I watched this kid play a few times at Kansas, and while I though he played alright, I wasn't totally blown away by him or anything. For some reason, I'm having a difficult time getting a good read on him as far as his potential at the next level. What is the best case scenario with him? In your opinion is he worth a top ten pick?
No, he is not. I have heard that he is a chucker. And we know how much Sloan hates chuckers. I'd say his best case scenario is Michael Redd, worst case Morris Almond. I'd say he is more of mid first rounder, not a lottery pick. Maybe outside of 11, but that is a stretch. The one thing he has going for him(other then his hot shooting) is athleticism and an NBA body, but he is not our pick. I'd be much happier if we picked Babbitt and ecstatic if we drafted Udoh.
His ceiling could be high but the one big weakness in his game is his ball handling. He can spot up, he can knock down the one dribble pull up, he can finish with contact but he can't get all the way to the rim. their is nothing wrong with being a spot up shooter, every team has a few but I think if you are going to use a top 10 pick you want more than that. If he could get to the point where you really are not sure if he is going to shot or drive he could be very good but I don't know if he will ever do that.
Best Case: Shorter Danny Granger
Wrost Case: Brandon Rush
I watch a lot of KU games, obviously and people keep talking about his NBA body the kid dominated against early season pushovers and slumped hard in the Big 12 minus 2-3 okay games. He can shoot but when he drives he has no hops, can only go one way and double cluthes everything. He doesn't have the killer instict around the bucket. He could turn out okay but I would be wary...Brandin Rush is a Great comparison.
If Brandon Rush is the comparison then I would not draft him in the lottery. In 2008 when Indy traded Bayless for him, it did not look good. Definitely was not worth a lottery pick. PLEASE DO NOT DRAFT HIM UTAH.
He belongs in the 13-20 range. PaulJay was right on target
hes the next demarcus cousins
If Brandon Rush is his ceiling that would offensively be about 12-14ppg and I see him more as a 18-20ppg kind of guy. I also don't see Henry being as good a defensive player as Rush will be.
He is a bit of a chucker, and he didn't show us much offensively at Kansas. A bit inconsistant. Solid defensive player, solid passer. Excellent shooter. Average athlete.
If he is forced to play in a system (like he did at Kansas, like he would in Utah), he won't reach his full potential. I think he is a very hard worker and he is very coachable. In the right system, he could be a 2nd option and score close to 20 points per game.
Don't think Utah will draft him.
I've said before, I can't see the Jazz drafting him because he is about the same size and has a similar game to CJ. We have CJ and Mathews at the 2 and although Henry can play the 3, he would be like CJ, undersized for the 3 and overmatched against alot of the top player at the 3 spot.
If we go for a wing, I hope we get Babbitt and if not him George.
What we need though is a long, athletic, defensive minded 4 man. Udoh, Monroe, or Patterson.
We don't need Aldrich.
You do realise that Monroe and Udoh are very average athletes, and that Monroe and (to a lesser degree) Patterson are not defenseive minded...
I'm a fan. Thing with Henry is he is an off ball scorer. Some teams need that, some dont. Good teams have good shooters, which he is. If your trying to make him Wade, he is going to dissapoint you, but I could flip it around and say imagine having a shooter like Pavlovic, Redd, or Reddick with the physical gifts of Henry, 6'6 with a strong body and solid athleticism. Alot of the best shooters are physically disadvantaged, and bad defenders, but Henry could be a great defender. Thats where the appeal is, he is a pretty safe pick and the kind of player that has good utility.
henry is an offball scorer that would be playing off the ball in utah. williams is a GREAT enough point guard to get the most out of him possible. also dont forget that jerry sloan is doing a good job in developing shooting guards (matthews,brewer) nobody expected either of those guys to flourish as they have/did in utah (matthews wasnt even drafted and brewer now playing w/ the grizz). with that said i would still rather see utah go w/ a big in the draft to add more size and another low post scoring threat to their team. i see no reason why xavier wouldnt be a good fit for utah if that is the selection they were to make on draft night.
Yes nomoney we realize that Udoh and Monroe are average athletes but Utah does not need a big athlete. They are looking for a BACKUP to Millsap. Average athlete is just fine as a backup. Udoh would be a great backup, plays defense. Is tall and is willing to work hard. I really hope he is our pick or we trade our 20111 pick for Sanders later on in mid first.
^The Jazz will not use a pick on Greg Monroe to back up Paul Milsap. Monroe is going to be a starter for some team. And he isn't going to be around for the Jazz to pick more than likely as it is.
Xavier Henry is a player that's ready to contribute immediately. His shooting and defense will get him on the floor immediately, and if he improves his handle to respectability he will be a great 2nd or 3rd option scorer. He'll average about 8 or 9 ppg next season I'd say, while shooting the 3 ball well and scoring some in transition. I'd say his ceiling is Glen Rice, and his floor is Martell Webster.
The Jazz are not looking for a backup with the 9th pick. If they wanted a backup they could trade the pick for an established player or find a backup with the second round pick. The Jazz have a gaping hole at the 5 spot and Fes isn't going to fill it.
The fact Monroe is not defensive minded or very athletic are part of the reasons I don't have him #1 on my list like most people do(for Utah), Patterson is very solid in most areas and because of that would be a good pick but my #1 pick would be Udoh, he isn't in the category of a Favors but he is a solid athlete with good work ethic, loves Defense, blocks shots, has good handles, runs the floor, can shoot from all over the floor (out to college 3). He has a pretty complete game, he needs to get stronger but that will come I think as he works on things full time. The one things I would like to see Udoh show is more assertiveness, he has the tools to be better than he has shown.
If you think Fes can't fill the center slot, were in trouble, there isn't a player in the draft except Cousisn that is better than Fes or KK. Trying to fill our needs and get the best player available pushes us to take a 4, there are quite a few quality 4's available that would be able to fill Boozer's spot and help the team move forward. To me Aldrich isn't any better than Fes or KK,
Udoh, Monroe, Patterson would all be pretty decent pickups, each has his own different strengths but will be quality players.
Cole Aldrich would easily start and play extended minutes over both of the Jazz's center. Why do you think they are good? Both of them AT BEST, are 3rd centers.
Some of you guys don't make alot of sense with your suggestion of who the Jazz should draft!! You have to look at the players available, their skill level, potential and what the Jazz need. The Jazz don't need another 6'6" wing with the 9th pick, bigs are hard to come by and with Boozer leaving, we need to address the need to draft a 4. If there weren't a good number of quality 4's to pick from then drafting Henry might be an option but there are quality 4's and therefore no need to look at Henry. Like I have said many times Henry and CJ are like clones, both 6'6", long, athletic and good shooters but if we drafted Henry he would sit on the bench behind Mathews and CJ.
With Monroe, Udoh, Patterson, all possibilities, I don't see us taking Henry, If we did go for a wing player I would hope we would go for a true 3 (Henry is undersized for the 3, just like CJ) Babbitt and George or Amuni (if available) would be better than Henry.
What quailties do you see in Aldrich that make him so good? I don't see it, He isn't fast, quick, no hops, not strong, terrible , terrible looking shots, he hasn't proven anything at the pro level. To say he is better than Fes or KK is BS, where is your proof.
The only thing going for Aldrich is he works hard and he is long, but he needs to be long to make up for being 6'10. Both Fes and KK are bigger,stronger and have more potential than Aldrich. Unless we don't know something and the Jazz are planning to not sign Fes and resign Booz , there is no reason to draft Aldrich, he won't make the Jazz a better team and he doesn't fill a need.
Cole Aldrich provides post defense and rebounding. I think he will be one of the best in the NBA soon at both. He is a Kendrick Perkins type of player, but probably better offensively. I think he can be 12 or 13 ppg player in the Jazz system while providing 9-10 rpg and 2 bpg. He's easily better than the clowns the Jazz have at C.
Koufas was drafted to the NBA as an offensive minded big-man. In his lone college season, he averaged 14.4 ppg. Cole Aldrich, who supposedly isn't a very talented offensive player, averaged 14.9 as a Sophomore. Aldrich also already is a better post defender and rebounder. He also is best in the pick and roll, the offensive play the Jazz run the most and are the most effective using. Koufas averaged 4 mins a game and 1.5 ppg last season in his 2nd season. He's not good. Plain and simple. Aldrich will average way more than that next season no matter where he goes. I guarantee it.
Fesenko is garbage. I'm not even going to go in depth about him. He's just a big body with limited talent offensively and he's not a good defender or rebounder really either. Aldrich is better than him whether you want to believe it or not.
I don't understand how you or anybody can say the Jazz don't need a C when you have players like these 2 at the position. Both of them are 3rd string Centers at best.
The Jazz should definitely take Monroe if he's available at 9, but that's not going to happen. I agree with whoever said they should go big. Whether it's Udoh, Aldrich, etc. They only have Millsap and Okur as legit bigs and that is NOT going to cut it with teams like LA. Even if they resign Boozer, they could still use another big. You can't win a championship without at LEAST 3-4 really solid bigs... unless you have MJ.
I disagree with you and time will tell. If the Jazz draft Adrich it is because they agree with you that Fes and KK aren't worth keeping and continuing to develop, if they draft a 4, like Udoh or Patterson (I think Monroe will be gone) or go with a wing like Babbitt or George then I think they agree with me that Fes and KK are worth developing and drafting Aldrich would be a wasted draft.
By drafting Udoh you get a versatile, long, athletic PF that can do alot more than Aldrich and still give you a defensive presence and shot blocker to team with Okur, Milsap, Fes or KK.