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- Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 8:37pm #23754
JJeff6ParticipantOkay, after watching every one of his games this year, I have a few things to say/ask.
First: Hes leading the league in 3 pointers made, with 55. Not to mention hes shooting at a 48% clip. Not bad.
Second: Averaging 21.2 points a game, and that Includes about a 5 game slump where he was averaging about 11.
Third: He has a variety of ways and moves that he uses to score, he obviously can shoot the three ball, good post up option, mid range game is phenominal, and he is consistent.
Fourth: He is in the final year of his contract, and he wants to resign the suns, but i dont know if the suns are seriously looking to lock him up
with that being said, should they trade him or keep him. If trade him, then to who and what does he command in return for the suns?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 8:39pm #453066
BKKnicksfanParticipantTrade him. There are tons of teams that could use his services IMO
You can probably get a 1st rounder for him plus a nice piece back
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 8:43pm #453069
JJeff6ParticipantMaybe to Orlando for a Marcin Gortat and a pick? They need someone who can rebound and defend that plays center. if not then they could trade him maybe to Atlanta for maybe a Jamal Crawford+ a pick?(with robin coming back too..)
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 8:45pm #453070
sammybuckeye13ParticipantI think he could be huge for the Pacers. Dunleavy is one of the weaker starting shooting guards in the league (I don’t think they see Rush as a starter) and the Pacers are thinking that they might be able to score a top-6 seed in the East, and to me Collison/J Rich/Granger sounds better to me at the pg-sf positions. Then you’ve got Hibbert down low. They have a lot of solid young talent to develop anyways so I think a first round pick would be expendable, and they could throw in Rush or Hansbrough.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 8:46pm #453072
BKKnicksfanParticipantAs a Suns fan, I ask you: I think the Suns should move Nash, what do you think?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 8:52pm #453076
MuggsyParticipantI think Suns are going to be looking to rebuild soon. A trade doesn’t make much sense in my opinion, why give up one of your best players when you can keep the 1 Yr-Contract and either resign him(potentially for less) or let it expire and spend it elsewhere.
On a side note I’ve always been a huge J-Rich fan, deffinitely one of my favorite players of all time to watch, very versatile.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 8:53pm #453077
JJeff6ParticipantIm kind of 50 50 on that one and I will tell you why:
I think that it would be a good idea to trade him because they would get a great return for him, such as 1st round picks and a couple of capable already proven players. In the long run, I think this might be the best option.
But then theres part of me who would hate to see him go. When he sat out a few games earlier this year, the team looked like sh!t. Dragic didnt do a good job replacing him and the suns lost all three games to miami orlando and charlotte, by terrible margians. It would be as if they are throwing in the towel on a team, that I think, has potential to be a possible 5 seed if they hit their stride, which they did last year with a team that people were hatin and sayin they werent going anywhere.
So either way its acceptable to me, but im leaning towards keeping him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 9:04pm #453087
STATnMeloParticipantBefore he gets into a slump he can get you a 1st rounder for sure playin like this and maybe a young guy. Teams like Chicago and New Orleans who have holes at the 2 spot.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 9:06pm #453088
JJeff6ParticipantWith New Orleans id like Marcus Thornton and a 1st rounder for him. Marcus has fallen off since last year and he could prolly fix that with the suns.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 9:09pm #453091
BKKnicksfanParticipant2 moves
Jason Richardson, Gani Lawal for James Harden, Dequan Cook, B.J. Mullens and Morris Peterson
Steve Nash and Hedo Turkoglu to Orlando for Daniel Orton, Vince Carter, Jameer Nelson and a 2011 1st round pick.
By doing this, you get James Harden (coming home, 3rd pick, still could be very good), B.J. Mullens (Raw but improving in the NBDL), Nelson (solid until the next PG or Dragic takes the spot from him), Orton ( improving, could be a 3rd big in a couple seasons), 2011 1st rounder and a combined 25 mil cap space to play with for 2011 and beyond.
What do you think?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 9:13pm #453095
JJeff6Participant+1 man.
Id love that. Youve basically got a Jameer Nelson and Vince Carter replacement for Nash and Richardson.
Youve got Harden coming back to Az and hed fit in perfectly to the suns style of play.
You unload the unproductive turkoglu.
Get a couple of potentional future role playing bigs.
1st round choice
and the 25 mil to sign a slew of good free agents.
that would be amazing! good thinking!
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 9:25pm #453102
RUDEBOY_Participanthow about sending him to golden st. for monta ellis…richardson has too many holes in his games to be nothing more than a 3rd option
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 9:28pm #453103
STATnMeloParticipantOrlando wouldnt take Turkoglu because they didnt want him at that price tag and Lewis and Hedo would really push them back financially they would also be weak on the perimeter as far as defense goes with Nash-Redick-Turkoglu as the starters because Q-Rich cant go 2 guard and Pietrus is their energy man. Lewis is no help inside so teams would just go at Dwight each and every possession
Nonetheless its a great idea both deals but Phoenix does these deals right away, Orlando and OKC dont
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 9:29pm #453104
JJeff6ParticipantHoles in his game? where are the holes in his game? He can rebound pretty well for his 6’5 frame. Hes got all the offensive tools
averages 1-2 steals a game. Not bad devensively. where are the holes?
I wouldnt mind Monta Ellis though 🙂
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 9:30pm #453105
The Splash DocParticipantOrlando would get torched on the defensive end. I like the trade ideas though for PHX thats instant rebuild mode Denver wants that in return for Carmelo instant ability to rebuild
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 9:50pm #453110
RUDEBOY_Participantaverage ball handler for a perimeter player,which limits his effectiveness in the halfcourt and a average defender…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 12/04/2010 - 9:55pm #453111
JJeff6Participantthose arent legit "holes" though. it doesnt effect his trade value at this point
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/05/2010 - 5:28am #453122
Tar86ekParticipantKnicks trade chandler and curry to phoenix for Jason richardson.
Knicks trade Bill walker to l.a. clippers for deandre Jordan
Next year sign Carmelo anthony
deandre Jordan
Amare
anthony
richardson resigns
felton
gallinari
fields
douglas
Randolph
mozgov
williams
turiaf
rautins
kemba walker or Alec Burks for 1st rnd pick
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/05/2010 - 7:09am #453158
BKKnicksfanParticipantOrlando wouldnt take Turkoglu because they didnt want him at that price tag and Lewis and Hedo would really push them back financially they would also be weak on the perimeter as far as defense goes with Nash-Redick-Turkoglu as the starters because Q-Rich cant go 2 guard and Pietrus is their energy man. Lewis is no help inside so teams would just go at Dwight each and every possession
Not true. Hedo WANTED to leave Orlando. Orlando had offered a deal in that range to Hedo, once he let them know he didn’t wanna come back, they got Vince Carter for a higher price. They wanted to keep Hedo. Doing that move gives Orlando the player they wanted to keep but a better PG in Nash. I think they’d bite and doing knowing Nash was coming along as well.
Why wouldn’t OKC do it?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 12/05/2010 - 9:07am #453203
bigblackNbeautifulParticipantThen the jazz sign him next year as well as resign ak.
Dwill has never had a wing of j rich calibure and lets just say d will made brewer, and matthews look pretty damn good.
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