ive always wondered....
Last yr i was thinking that Melo was really a superstar player for the first time ever... he finally won a scoring title... the knicks finally went past the first round.. everything seemed swell... this yr is a different story... the knicks suck and tyson chandler is out... JR smith and felton arent playing as good as last season and amare is offically washed up... but is melo really a superstar player??? if u replaced melo with paul george, durant, cp3, lebron, or even a prime dwade with this same knicks roster.. would new york's record still be what it is now?? better or the same is what im asking
asking me... melo is still really good.. but this yr is proof he isnt a superstar... i know the knicks are going thru adversity.. but a legit superstar doesnt allow the team to be 5-14 in a weak conference... a superstar doesnt allow the team to get blown out against a below .500 team at the garden by 41 points... i know he doesnt get much help but that excuse can only go so far esp. in the east
really curious to what u guys think
Melo is a superstar scorer but he's not a team player. Basketball is a team sport, which is why Melo struggles so much, especially when his supporting cast isn't performing well. On the Nuggets, he always had a strong supporting cast but in New York, he's finally dealing with the woes of playing with bad players and he's not making them better.
Simply, he doesn't make his teammates better, isn't a leader on either end of the floor, and he alienates himself on the offensive end.
He's a superstar scorer but that's it.
To be fair Amare has been washed up for a while. And though Melo is one of the most talented scorers of his generation he's not the leader that Lebron, CP3, Durant, or even George are, and that seems to be the biggest difference. But we're also not in the locker room with the team so we don't know how he acts behind the scenes.
Yes, Melo is a superstar. I think he is genuinely a team player and a leader, but not to an extent like Lebron and Durant. I think with Lebron or Durant the Knicks would only be slightly better. The Knicks as a whole need to be completely rebuilt IMO.
I completely disagree with this statement. Melo is not a leader, and he certainly isn't a team player. This is the one aspect that super stars have to get over in their careers, and for some reason Melo just doesn't want to eat his pride, and move the ball. The only super star I can thing of who hasn't "sold out", and commit to team ball is Kobe to an extent, and Melo just ins't on that level either. I can honestly say that for Melo's entire career, last year was the only time I ever saw him actually try on defense and rebound. It shouldn't take ten years to figure this out. Melo constantly throws his teams under the bus, and what he did to Denver was just terrible. I know we all complain about Dwight, LeBron, CP3, and such leaving their teams, but out of all of them Melo is the only one who really FORCED himself on another team. It's a shame, because ten years from now, our kids will probably look back at this and see Melo in the same light as another Denver Nugget: Alex English, the leading scorer of the 80's, but not as recognisable as all the other starts of that era.
Just because Melo isn't as defensively skilled as other superstars does not mean he isn't trying on defense. And what are you talking about him not rebounding? Hes averaging over 7 per game in his career. Melo is superstar because he can score the basketball. He has never had another star on his roster like Lebron (who has Wade) and Durant (Westbrook) have had. Melo is one of the most versatile and talented scorers in the league. Not everyone can pass the ball like Lebron and defend like Paul George, but on the other end Melo is a more skilled scorer than Lebron and George.
Melo is not a more skilled scorer than LeBron. Not in 2013.
Lebron has improved, but in regards to versatility, Lebron is not on Melo's level....
Melo's never played with a star? Have you ever heard of Allen Iverson? He only averaged 25.6 ppg, 7.1 apg, and 1.9 spg on .456% shooting while playing with Melo.
I don't think I'm being too harsh here because I honestly think those Nugget teams from 06-09 were well constructed. Having guys like Marcus Campby, Kenyon Martin, Chris Anderson, Billups, Iverson, JR Smith, and Nene is better than most people get, and Melo could only get out the first round with those guys once.
I also think his lack of patience hurts him as well, on and off the court. He made the playoffs for so many years, but couldn't wait a year or two to get things back on track? Which for Melo is kind of sad, when in hindsite he left a team that had a young Ty Lawson, young Arron Afflolo, young JR Smith, and prime Nene. To this day I bet he regrets leaving that team.