"I say he makes them marginally better. Not much better or worse if at all. This signing isn't worth 76 posts and counting on this site lol. He makes them better *technically* because he'll add whatever production he brings to the table.
"If you YOU tried out for the Lakers YOU would be an upgrade over Luke Walton. lol. That isn't saying much at all..."
see, this is how this thread should have gone:
iggy: barnes does not make the lakers any better or any worse
perez: how can you say he doesnt make the lakers any better?
iggy: okay, he will help, but it wont be all that significant. Im not as high on him as others.
perez: cool, we'll see.
and that should have been about the end of it. Instead iggy tired to justify why barnes doesnt make the lakers any better by overstating his weakness and basically trying to make barnes into a scrub and saying things like he has never even been a key role player. Then there is a huge back and forth and now iggy is saying okay, he will help, but it's not all that special a pickup, which is what he should have just said from the get go and saved us all some time.
I NEVER said he never has been a key player. Why do you keep saying that? I said he wasn't a key player in Orlando's playoff run.
I changed my stance on him not making them better or worse because y'all got technical and said his production would make him better, which obviously is true since they didn't really have a backup SF. I guess I meant to say his IMPACT ON THE LAKERS wouldn't make them better or worse. I still stand behind the fact that he'll get 5 ppg, play hard yet inefficient on D, and low 40's % from the field. But any production would make them better since they didn't have a true backup SF last year.
okay, i msiread the key role player comment. Still doesnt change my opinion on this thread. Pretty much everyone agrees he was a solid pickup and will help the lakers.
Who cares about Matt Barnes? Why are there over 100 posts about this piece of sh*t?
Wow... What happened in this thread lol?
Barnes' statistics probably won't be great, but he's a very good pick up and will make the Lakers a stronger team. He brings more of that intensity and ruggedness that the Lakers have lacked in the past. He'll bring defense, energy and hustle off of the bench. He's not a lights out shooter, but he'll knock down timely shots too. We know he won't back down from anybody either.
I'm happy for Barnes. It's not everyday that a player gets to go home and play for his home state team. The Lakers have had a great off-season in my opinion.
after reading 3 pages of what seemed to be a ridiculous waste of time....can anyone answer my question all the way back on the first page?
who's next in becoming a laker...after getting into a fight with kobe bryant?
^^^ I heard Charlie Ward was thinking of a comeback, LMAO
the lakers will workout shaq & chris childs on monday
Matt Barnes. The player championships are built around
But for real, he had NO impact for them down the stretch and in the playoffs. I really forgot he was on their roster.
I tried to tell these guys he's not very good. Everyone, was like you're talking about him like he's a bum. He did nothing last year when it mattered.
This lockout is really looking to be the rapture of NBADraft.nets forums
he was injured all year. I didnt predict he would be playing hurt. But glad you bumped a year old thread to boast about a guy who didnt have an impact becasue he was hurt. lol
Yeah, cause he was the missing piece to the Lakers getting out of the 2nd round.
what does that even mean? He was supposed to be a solid backup. He was hurt and played through injuries and missed some time even. We have no idea what type of impact he would have had had he been healthy. But if that makes you feel good that he was injured and didnt produce, go ahead and pat yourself on the back. Not like you havent been wrong before
*Pats self on the back*
actually i take it back, you shouldnt pat yourself on the back. Cant really judge a guy due to injury.
"Yeah, cause he was the missing piece to the Lakers getting out of the 2nd round."
actually if you go back to the first page and read my predictions for barnes, I said "18 minutes, 7 points high 40"s fg% and above average defense". Well he got 19 minutes, 6.7ppg 47%fg and played above average defense when healthy. If only he hadnt missed 30 games and went into the playoffs really hurting i would be like nosterdamus on this one.
If Matt Barnes was 100%, do you think they beat Dallas LL?
If Kobe was 100% they could have beat anyone. I think kobe is just drained in every way possible. (His knee in a litteral sense too.)
hell no they dont beat dallas if matt was 100%, he wasnt gonna make up for that much. Lakers had lots of issues in the playoffs.
he nor steve blake fit in phil jackson's system....
barnes has been solid everywhere he has been...he's never be more than a role player..but alot of teams would love a guy like him..
he's a gritty player,he does things that gets in opposing players head..that can cause them to get off their game..nice inside game and passing skills..
he has 3 point range,but it can be streaky at times..and sometimes it seems like he ignores team sets....and trys to do his own thing..i think thats why he's moved around so much..
Matt Barnes is a solid defensive player and 3 point option when he's not injured like he was last year. He didn't get a chance to make a big impact