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Its now Official!!! Matt Barnes is now a LAKER!!!

Matt Barnes Tweeted on his Twitter Page..That its a done deal..He's gonna be a Laker..

I bet now he can ask Kobe why he didnt blink when he made that ball fake? lmao


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yeaaaahhhh booooyyyyyyy When

yeaaaahhhh booooyyyyyyy

When Kobe and Ron ROn need a rest, they bring in barnes to play a little D. The days of luke walton and vlad ramanovic are a thing of the past.

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kobe might have edged out

kobe might have edged out john calpari as the greatest recruiter lol this guy nearly fights ron artest the playoffs before and the next season makes him agree 2 play for less, now this year barnes wanted kobes head but kobe still manages to get him to play in L.A for less.

We might be looking at a better shooting / defense team with the lakers

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I Smell A 3peat real talk.

I Smell A 3peat real talk.

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Rejoice, no more Luke

Rejoice, no more Luke Walton!!!!! Amen...Radmonivic has been gone, but yeah I get your point llperez...

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WOW, the Lakers have really

WOW, the Lakers have really added some quality depth to the roster, and defensive minded players at that! Blake, Ratliff and Barnes. That's a nice set-up, that 3peat is smelling sweeter by the day...

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They were able to get him for

They were able to get him for the minimum?

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Matt Barnes is the perfect

Matt Barnes is the perfect compliment to artest and kobe and can get you 8 and 4 off the bench in 19 minutes

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thank god

that the lakers are getting some better bench players this year.. Blake, Barnes, Ratliff, Caracter..
good riddence to Morrison, Farmar and Powell.

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Perfect move. To be honest,

Perfect move.

To be honest, LA kinda needed this move. Luke Walton actually might retire due to back problems. If were looking at a potential Heat-Laker Final matchup: This is the perfect thing to guard Mike Miller and James Jones. I think some LA fans are expecting Ebanks to be a defensive stalwart from day 1. I think this not only gives them a slasher off the bench but someone who could allow Ebanks to develop.

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Not really sure with all

Not really sure with all these moves that Ebanks AND Caracter both make the active roster...I really like the way they are going, these moves make a lot of sense and will help them when it counts...

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Lakers still have space

Lakers still have space because it would appear that Brown, Powel, and Dj will not be back. There is no way they let Ebanks and Caractor free. They could at least trade them for future 2nd round picks.

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True, I wouldn't think they

True, I wouldn't think they would let either of them walk, but it was getting a little questionable with all these moves on how they would handle it...

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They should NOT let Brown

They should NOT let Brown go...

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This is crap, man

Lakers getting another nasty player... They are making their case for a possible three-peat... This is BS...

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Anybody notice every time

Anybody notice every time Kobe gets into an altercation with a player, they end up being team mates the following season?

Here's to Kobe smacking Dwight Howard in the face next season.

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The Intense Desire To Win

That is what it is all about. These guys get in each others faces because they want to win. You want guys that know they aren't as good as you but won't back down from you to be on your team. Those are the types of people that you know will have your back and won't take anything from anyone else. I think they should do what they can though to re-sign Brown if possible. They have done a nice job of upgrading with the little amount of wiggle room they had.

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now its just time to get out

now its just time to get out the popcorn and sit back and enjoy the ride.

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Dirt cheap

Two years for 3.6 million? Matt Barnes is worth more than that. Why the heck didn't Dallas step in and give him 6 million for two years? They're going to need someone to guard Kobe in the playoffs, and D Wade if they get that far.... Toronto was going to give him 9 mill before the sign-and-trade with Orlando fell through, and Cleveland offered 7.

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yeah, but you're forgetting

yeah, but you're forgetting one big thing. He gets to be a laker. Can you really put a price tag on that?

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As a Lakers fan..I hope this

As a Lakers fan..I hope this doesnt mean they'll not be signing rookies DC & Ebanks..Every veteran laden team, need up & coming young players to take their place when they retire..DC & Ebanks have the talent to be quality starters in 2 years...Along with Bynum,DC & Ebanks will be the cornerstone of the Lakers ..So when guys like Kobe,Gasol & Artest move on..The Lakers will still be competitive..And not go into 4 or 5 years losing seasons..

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hey rudeboy, are you gonna

hey rudeboy, are you gonna sign into that league?

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I'm loving this of season for

I'm loving this of season for the lakershow. So that gives us 10 players and u need 13 so caracter nor ebanks are getting traded for second round picks(that would make no sense anyway because it's rare u get two talented players like that in round 2)

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thankx for the invite ll

thankx for the invite ll perez....yeah..i wanna be a part of the league..but i'm really busy doin the day..i can only be on at nite..

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thats cool if you cant do it.

thats cool if you cant do it. But there is the option to set your roster for days or even weeks in advance without having to log on each day.

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He should've been on the

He should've been on the Spurs but they foolishly resigned RJ.
Surprised to see him turn down more money from the Cavs.
This isn't a guy who's made 40-50 million in the league already.

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In the long run it will

In the long run it will payoff for Barnes, he wants to win also. He's not struggling for money, he's an NBA player.

@ Rudeboy, I'm a Lakers fan as well, but do you really think Caracter and Ebanks are cornerstone type players? I'm not sold on that right now, possibly they could be, but there is no proven evidence at this point. Even in two years, neither one of those guys will be starters...I do like what they bring to the roster though, length and hard work...

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Lakers under contract: 1. Ron

Lakers under contract:

1. Ron Artest
2. Steve Blake
3. Kobe Bryant
4. Andrew Bynum
5. Derrick Fisher
6. Pau Gasol
7. Matt Barnes
8. Lamar Odom
9. Theo Ratliff
10. Sasha Vujacic
11. Luke Walton
12.

That leaves one more active roster spot and that's if they don't retain Shannon Brown. IMO the spot would go to Caracter because of the departure of Josh Powell and Mbenga.

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Doesnt the NBA have a 15 man

Doesnt the NBA have a 15 man roster now?

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Max you can have is 15, while

Max you can have is 15, while 12 is the most you can dress on any given night, I believe,

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Barnes, please

There were good reasons Matt Barnes didn't play during key periods of last season's playoffs. And the primary reason, Barnes isn't very good.

Is he a decent addition for the Lakers? YES

Will he make the difference in their run for another title? NO

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Lakers kept 13 last year and

Lakers kept 13 last year and I think they will this year as well. Luke Walton back will prob keep him from dressing most of the time

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Lol, thank you rtbt. I've

Lol, thank you rtbt. I've never been a big Matt Barnes guy. He's honestly not that good of a player at all. He's tough, but he doesn't make the Lakers better or worse.

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Also not a big barnes fan but

Also not a big barnes fan but he does make us better because we had no good sf off the bench. Even a lil production off the bench makes a team better

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I remener ariza not playing

I remener ariza not playing much for Orlando as well. Brown the same in Cleveland. The lakers tend to make players look or play better with the triangle. On top of having better players around and getting wide open shots u would never get on other teams.

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Very true. Good points my

Very true. Good points my man...

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Now if ariza was our back up

Now if ariza was our back up and he left and we got barnes then I'd say it doesn't make us better or worst. But although barnes isn't the best sg out there the triangle is great for things he does well The laker moves don't get the credit that it deserves. The names might not be big but the moves are because we all know what our two weaknesses were and that's pg and bench. Now we can't put out five guys off the bench who play good defense. Can shoot. Have good basketball iq and hustle. Which will give our starters more rest which in turn will make them even more effective

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barnes has helped orlando,

barnes has helped orlando, phoenix and golden state all in recent years while playing a key role. How do you not think he will help the lakers?

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All 3 of those places are the

All 3 of those places are the 3 most player friendly places in the NBA. And he didn't play a real key role, as rtbt mentioned, down the stretches of the most important points in Orlando's season.

He's probably gonna get like 5 or 6 ppg though next year, play solid D sometimes and make quite a few mistakes too, and shoot in the low 40% range. If you consider that making a difference, that's you.

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didnt play a key role? I

didnt play a key role? I guess we have a differnt opinion on what a jkey role is. Best defender on all those team at the wing position starter and close to double digit scorer. If you dont consider that a key role, thats you.

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who's next?

who's going to the lakers next.... after they get into a fight with kobe?

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He wasn't a better defender

He wasn't a better defender than Mikael Pietrus on the perimeter, and he wasn't a better defender than Dwight Howard but he wasn't on the wing. So he was NEVER the best defender on that Magic team.

He rarely saw time in the 4th quarter or just before half-time of games. So he didn't play a key role in the most important parts of the Magic season. Especially since he very rarely played in the 4th quarter. I don't know what it is about Mat Barnes that has you so excited, but don't expect much more than the stats I put above next year. He's seriously not that good.

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He shot .487% last year. That isn't low at all for a perimeter player. He also got 5.5 boards per game and 8.8 pts per game which isn't bad at all for a role player. He did this on basically 26 mins per game.

I didn't watch him that much, but honestly, there were a lot of Orlando players who didn't play well down the stretch, so calling him out on he didn't play well when the team, as a collective unit, didn't play well is moot. Barnes will have an easy role to play for the Lakers that won't put a lot of pressure on him and it will allow him to play within himself.

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last year barnes hsot 49%. No

last year barnes hsot 49%. No reason to believe he wont get as good of looks as ever whiile playing with the lakers. SO saying low 40's% is just assuming the worst case scenario on that one. You tink he is gonna get 5 or 6 points? Again, thats possible due ot the lakers being so deep, but thats a worst case prediction. If sasha can get 5 points, barnes should get that easy. Play solid D sometimes? Thats about the worst way to describe a guy who has made a name for himslef in this league on his defense and has gaurded the other teams best perimiter player for the last 4 -5 years. Make quite a few mistakes? Barnes is actually a guy who knows his role and doesnt force too much. You rarely see him over dirbbling or forcing bad shots. His career average is 1.2 turnovers per game. You basically just took the absolute worst possible scenarios for him in all phases of the game and assume that will be what he brings next year.

Here's what i expect. About 18 minutes a game with about 7ppg on solid shooting. Well above average defense which is gonna be key when you consider the rest the wing bench is luke, sasha and an unprove rookie in ebanks. You dont want those guys checking lebron or wade in a possible matchup. His presence will defenitly help similar to what james posey brought to the 2008 celtics team.

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How many other times has Matt

How many other times has Matt Barnes shot 49% from the field? Regressed with every series the Magic were apart of. He had a relatively good regular season statistically last year, but if you don't understand how to read stats and how Barnes will adjust to the Lakers and a less free-flowing offense, it does no good to post stats.

He doesn't overdribble because he knows he can't create his own shots. He has to score on the offensive glass, in transition and spotting up. How many offensive rebounds will he get with Odom, Gasol, and Bynum on the floor? And even though he'll make the ocassional open shot, he's not a strong statistical shooter at all.

I think he's going to get 5 or 6 ppg, but it has nothing to do with the Lakers being that deep. They only play an 8 or 9 man rotation, and past Odom and Brown that rotation wasn't "so deep." He'll get 5 or 6 pg because he's not that good offensively and he won't be askd to score more than that. He shot his best percentage last season with Orlando, but I HIGHLY doubt he can do that again, seeing as that's by far the best he's ever shot since college.

He defends the other teams best player for short spurts, but is he really a good defender? He fouls at a high rate. Not rare to see him foul a jump shooter or fall asleep and leave a guy open in the corner. He's not all that good a defender really, he's tough, contests and fouls more than he should. Not like he'll take a good scorer guy of the game.

Will he rebound well with Bynum, Odom and Gasol? I doubt it. And since the Lakers don't depend on fast break very much, or nearly as much as any team he's played on in the past, I doubt he can score as much. And that in with the fact that he's not a great shooter and I question what he'll do next year. Maybe you guys WANT him to be a great player becuase he's going to the Lakers, but I don't see it. Barnes isn't all that good at all.

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he was playing through

he was playing through injuries in the playoffs too and had ot sit out a lot with a bad back and the coach even openly discussed how it effected his play. Also, the whole magic team was struggling to get in the offense and create plays. Boston was locking vince and dwight down and barnes absolutely relies on those guys to set him up for looks, which thus hurt his ability to get points and shoot a high percentage.

You then point out how he doesnt overdribble becasue he cant consistnely create his own offense. I agrre with that. SO where does the he will make a bunch of mistake come into play if we agree he doesnt force his own offense or over dribble?

And yes, he really is a good defender. No question on that one. And who said anything about Great player? I just said he will help just like he has helped teams throughout his career. He doesnt have to be a great player. But for you to suggest he wont have any impact, you might as well be talking about him like he was some scrub who wont be a part of the rotation, which he will.

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He makes a bunch of mistakes

He makes a bunch of mistakes on D, that's why I said he'll play good D sometimes and then make a bunch of mistakes. That's why I grouped the words together like that....

He's not all that good a defender lol..He's foul prone and will rarely if ever take his matchup out of a game. He's decent and scrappy, but he's not the type you put on the other teams best player and expect him to take out the game or score real inefficiently.

He'll produce some, but he's not going to make the Lakers a much better or worse team. This signing is no big deal at all, because Barnes isn't that good.

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If hes not all that good a

If hes not all that good a defender, then 90% of the nba aint all that good a defender. Ill take guys who are not all that good defenders on my roster everyday then. And i agree he wont make them MUCH better, but he certainly will help whcih you implied he wont do by saying he wont make them any better or worse. Lots of teams would have loved to have had him and when ron or kobe go out to rest and its the playoffs, its gonna be great to know you have a veteran who is a very good defender to come in and provide minutes. No one is suggesting he single handidly adds 10 wins or anything.

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thats youre opinion iggy but

thats youre opinion iggy but the majority of nba talking heads and fans dont see it the same way and hold barnes in higher reguard then yu do. the triangle offense is perfect for a good three point shooter which barnes is. its obvious that this improves a laker bench that didnt have this last year. the lakers offense is better for three point shooters to be open then the orlando offense because teams have to focus more on gasol and kobe. barnes is a very good defender which isnt disputable no matter how much you may not like him. im guessing all the other nba teams that talk about him being a good defender must be wrong. no laker fan is saying hes a great player but you are downgrading his tru ability for no reasonable reason. the guy has PROVEN to be a good effective off the bench player for awhile now on teams that dont have as many weapons or as great of a coach as phil jackson

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90% of the NBA aren't good

90% of the NBA aren't good defenders lol....Possibly even more.

But ok. If you think Barnes is going to make much, if any, real impact next year we'll see. I very seriously doubt it though obviously. He's not a very good player

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JNixon-Iggy9

JNixon-Iggy9, I agree with you.

First, his shooting form is poor and erratic, hence, he's inconsistent. Barnes will hit 3 in a row and then miss 4 in a row. You will see him miss badly on wide open shots and then hit a shot you didn't think had a prayer of going in.

Second, he tries hard on defense but he isn't very smart and is often out of position.

Third, Llperez made some good points. I agree he will help the Lakers, but overall, this isn't much of a plus.

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