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Interesting article on Greg Oden's (and Brandon Roy's) injuries and Portland's ex training staff

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Interesting article on Greg Oden's (and Brandon Roy's) injuries and Portland's ex training staff

http://zigsports.wordpress.com/2012/04/05/greg-oden-brandon-roy-what-wha...

I always knew Portland's negligence was to blame. What's done is done and the past is the past, but this is an interesting read.


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This was posted a whiiiiiile

This was posted a whiiiiiile ago my man

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I've seen threads about

I've seen threads about Portland injuries (I've made a few), but I've never seen this specific article posted on this site. IF it was, I definitely missed it. This was all new information to me.

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Even if it was posted a while

Even if it was posted a while ago, I never seen it but I gotta say wow. I am so disappointed while reading this, these guys careers could've been different but at the end of the day people just wanted to get them on the court asap and it ended up not only costing the players but the organization as well, &$#%#&@! is sad and disappointing.

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as a portland fan this

as a portland fan this saddens me, a healthy Oden and Roy means playoffs and a strong team for years and years, means we wouldn't have Lillard but i'm sure with a line up of Oden, Aldridge, Batum and Roy that could of enticed a good PG. Hopefully Portland will never make this stupid mistakes again..one can only be hopeful

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I used to always say that

I used to always say that Portland was the reason for his injuries. Not only did he not get treated correctly but they also had him gain 28 pounds of un-needed muscle in 2 months to make him "big enough" to take the pounding of the NBA and compete in the post. He was already 257 pounds, and a great physical specimen.

If you guys remember, I believe it was his 2nd injury, where his muscles crushed his knee cap.
Before Phoenix drafted Len, I said Greg Oden should just go there for a year to be with the training staff.

More teams need to start doing what phoenix does for it's players.

Another thing about that article is how the Doctor told players to get 2nd opinions on their injuries and problems away from the team, that is the one thing Royce White was complaining about last year with the Rockets, he wanted a doctor independent of the team to check him, and clear him for games and to be a voice of reason, because the team doesn't always have the players best interest at heart. Albeit, Royce's problem isn't a physical injury, it's still a problem that 26.2% of Americans(or around 82 million people) suffer from. He went about it, in some immature ways but what he was fighting for is very reasonable.

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This made me respect Derrick

This made me respect Derrick Rose's position of waiting because he couldn't dunk off his left foot even more.

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A true failure by Blazer

A true failure by Blazer management. It is so easy for an organization to become filled with yes-man, just to give their boss some sort of instant gratification even though it's at the detriment to the club in the long term.

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I just finished reading Phil

I just finished reading Phil Jackon's "Eleven Rings" and he talks about having concerns about Andrew Bynum's running gait when he saw him pre-draft and was worried that he'd develop knee problems.

It boggles my mind that with the amount of money available more teams aren't exploring new methods and understanding biomechanics.

I hope Cleveland works with Bynum to get his knees healthy and fix his biomechanical problems; he's another guy who would dominate if he could stay healthy.

It's just a shame Phoenix doesn't attract more of these guys while they're young, they could have a seriously good line-up just of players who are injury prone (and would probably be able to afford it as a result).

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Was it Don Nelson that held

Was it Don Nelson that held Dirk out from a playoff game when he was injured so that Dirk did not have lingering problems down the road? Makes you reapect that kind of thing

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No, it was Dirk himself.

No, it was Dirk himself.

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Also, what the guy who wrote

Also, what the guy who wrote the article was saying about a heel lift hurting your knees is extremely relevant to John Wall's injury struggles since he signed with Reebok. They were putting him in their "zigtech" shoes which had an extremely high heel to simulate running down-hill and give you move forward momentum, but they are REALLY bad for basketball.

It's no coincidence that Wall has switched to adidas "crazy quicks" (a shoe which goes for a minimalist approach to cushioning to simulate the bare-foot stride) and his "knee problems" disappeared overnight.

Which is something I was lobbying for Wall to do after buying a pair of the shoes and noticing the pain.

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Yep... You were all over John

Yep... You were all over John Wall wearing those shoes from the start.

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As regards a player wearing a

As regards a player wearing a certain brand of trainer/shoe to play in, surely I would have thought that the company sponsoring them would design a bespoke shoe for them that considered the points raised in the original article. The likes of Nike, Reebok, Adidas etc must do similar research on a shoe to find out where support is needed and what aides speed, areodynamics etc.

About Portland and regarding Tom Penn being really into the information provided, it again shows that Paul Allen was badly advised about which support staff to recruit. This was further backed up when Kevin Pritchard left the franchise, it really needed Pritchard and Penn to be given a blank sheet and told recruit the very best people to make us successful.

With Pritchard's analytical mind and Allen's cash I'm sure it would have happened.

Back to Greg Oden, was there an injury which caused his first mictofracture surgery in 2007 or was it a precaution to try and nip a potential serious injury in the bud with the hope this would lead to a long NBA career.

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This is actually a huge

This is actually a huge reason that Eric Gordon and NO have had issues the last two seasons.

Gordon doesn't trust their team doctors/training staff, hence the reason he wanted to sign with Phoenix and felt going there was the best move for his career. Phoenix really sold him on their medical staff and laid out a plan for his long term health.

Gordon really pissed NO off last season when they felt he was ready to play and he told them that he had concerns about his knee. Instead of playing, Gordon went and got a second opinion from doctors/trainers in LA and it turned out that due to a lack of quad strength and imbalance/uneven distribution, it was causing major issues with his patellar tendon and even his hips. They told him that if he didn't fix these issues, he'd put himself at risk of more injuries (damage to his cartilage and patella). NO scoffed at his second opinion and instead made it look like he was faking his injuries.

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Yeah it really ticked me off

Yeah it really ticked me off that Gordon was denied the opportunity to sign in Phoenix because the Pelicans wanted to build around him but a year later he's almost superfluous to their needs.

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Eric Gordon got a big second

Eric Gordon got a big second contract which after an injury plagued season was always a risk, maybe Phoenix felt with their medical staff could get him sound. He was still feeling his way back during last season and only played back to back games towards the end of the season. The trouble is that he is on a big deal with $44 million left over the next 3 years so to move him would be hard.

Hopefully he will get back to his full form next season and with a strong frontcourt roster NOP can limit his minutes to the low 30's to keep him fresh. The good thing about a player like Gordon coming back from a knee injury is that as a guard he maybe doesn't put so much pressure on his knees than a big man would do and he can compensate for any loss of speed by becoming more of a distributor and looking to take better shots. With Evans and Holiday on the roster he will find more court space and they can look for the best shots.

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