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  • #20615
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    franfran
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    1º United

    PG:Collison
    SG:Stephenson
    SF:George
    PF:Granger
    C:Hibbert

    2º United

    PG:Ford
    SG:Dunleavy
    SF:Posey
    PF:Hansbrough
    C:McRoberts

    3º United

    PG:Price
    SG:Rush
    SF:Jones
    PF:Solomon/Magnum Rolle*
    C:Foster

    *Magnum Rolle unsigned draft pick

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  • #376459
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    JoeWolf1

    I doubt Stephensen and George start right off the bat, or even more than a few games this season. I bet their opening day starting lineup looks like

    pg. Collison
    sg. Rush
    f. Granger
    f. Dunleavy
    C. Hibbert

    They have a weakness at PF since they lost Murphy and Hansbrough isn’t full speed, they could make a trade for a power forward before the season starts, but I doubt George and and Stephenson are starters out of the gate. Summer League is Summer League and although both of those players have a lot of upside, they aren’t ready to be starters yet.

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  • #376490
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    JoeWolf1

    I doubt Stephensen and George start right off the bat, or even more than a few games this season. I bet their opening day starting lineup looks like

    pg. Collison
    sg. Rush
    f. Granger
    f. Dunleavy
    C. Hibbert

    They have a weakness at PF since they lost Murphy and Hansbrough isn’t full speed, they could make a trade for a power forward before the season starts, but I doubt George and and Stephenson are starters out of the gate. Summer League is Summer League and although both of those players have a lot of upside, they aren’t ready to be starters yet.

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  • #376465
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    BasketballGuru24
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    Yeaa i just read an article about danny granger saying the pacers aren’t done making trades yet. If anything i think they trying 2 swing a deal with Tj Ford being dealt.

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  • #376496
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    Yeaa i just read an article about danny granger saying the pacers aren’t done making trades yet. If anything i think they trying 2 swing a deal with Tj Ford being dealt.

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  • #376473
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    Paul George is nowhere near ready to start in the NBA. He was a horribly inefficient scorer against good teams in college and was 22-66 shooting (3-26 from behind the arc) in the summer league. Stephenson isn’t going to start either. When it was him or T.J. Ford, I assumed it would be him. O’Brien likes Stephenson and hates Ford. It seemed logical given they were the only two options. Now, they have Collison so there goes his chances to start. I still think Stephenson will see more minutes at the point than the 2. He is a better creator than shooter.

    Bird and Granger said that they aren’t done making moves. They have a bunch of money coming off the books after 2011 (Ford, Foster, and Dunleavy), but it isn’t like they are going to rebuild through free agency. I can see them trying to go after Varejao, Marvin Williams, or Marcin Gortat and Brandon Bass between now and the start of the year.

    For the moment, I would think they’d have something more like this.
    PG-Collison, Stephenson, (Ford bought out), (Price- injured)
    SG-Dunleavy, Rush
    SF-Posey, D. Jones, George
    PF- Granger, Hansbrough, McRoberts, Rolle
    C- Hibbert, Foster, Jones

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  • #376504
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    Paul George is nowhere near ready to start in the NBA. He was a horribly inefficient scorer against good teams in college and was 22-66 shooting (3-26 from behind the arc) in the summer league. Stephenson isn’t going to start either. When it was him or T.J. Ford, I assumed it would be him. O’Brien likes Stephenson and hates Ford. It seemed logical given they were the only two options. Now, they have Collison so there goes his chances to start. I still think Stephenson will see more minutes at the point than the 2. He is a better creator than shooter.

    Bird and Granger said that they aren’t done making moves. They have a bunch of money coming off the books after 2011 (Ford, Foster, and Dunleavy), but it isn’t like they are going to rebuild through free agency. I can see them trying to go after Varejao, Marvin Williams, or Marcin Gortat and Brandon Bass between now and the start of the year.

    For the moment, I would think they’d have something more like this.
    PG-Collison, Stephenson, (Ford bought out), (Price- injured)
    SG-Dunleavy, Rush
    SF-Posey, D. Jones, George
    PF- Granger, Hansbrough, McRoberts, Rolle
    C- Hibbert, Foster, Jones

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  • #376477
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I’m loving these Pacer threads lol.

    They’re now somewhat rellivant again. I’m interested to see if they can make another move or two that’ll definitely put them into the playoffs.

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  • #376508
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I’m loving these Pacer threads lol.

    They’re now somewhat rellivant again. I’m interested to see if they can make another move or two that’ll definitely put them into the playoffs.

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  • #376485
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    As BasketballGuru24 said, They’re not done making moves. For now I would say their lineup would look something like:

    PG- Darren Collison
    SG- Brandon Rush
    SF- Danny Granger
    PF- Tyler Hansborough(I wouldn’t start him but it said he would on multiple sites)
    C- Roy Hibbert

    Bench

    PG- Lance Stephenson/ TJ Ford
    SG- Dahntay Jones/ AJ Price
    SF- Paul George/ James Posey
    PF- Mike Dunleavy/ Josh McRoberts
    C- Jeff Foster/ Solomon Jones

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  • #376516
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    As BasketballGuru24 said, They’re not done making moves. For now I would say their lineup would look something like:

    PG- Darren Collison
    SG- Brandon Rush
    SF- Danny Granger
    PF- Tyler Hansborough(I wouldn’t start him but it said he would on multiple sites)
    C- Roy Hibbert

    Bench

    PG- Lance Stephenson/ TJ Ford
    SG- Dahntay Jones/ AJ Price
    SF- Paul George/ James Posey
    PF- Mike Dunleavy/ Josh McRoberts
    C- Jeff Foster/ Solomon Jones

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  • #376491
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    IndianaBasketball
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    AJ Price backing up at two guard and Dunleavy Jr at power forward??? That’s interesting…

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  • #376522
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    IndianaBasketball
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    AJ Price backing up at two guard and Dunleavy Jr at power forward??? That’s interesting…

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  • #376495
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    Demarcus Oneal
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    Yeah George is way too erratic to start and his natural position is sf where they have an all star in Granger, I would say that Rush starts over dunleavy due to his length defense and he is improving , also Granger obvious at SF I dont know why he would play pf he would get destroyed at PF. I see them trading for Bass or Varejo but i dont see the Marvin Williams trade since he plays sf

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  • #376526
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    Demarcus Oneal
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    Yeah George is way too erratic to start and his natural position is sf where they have an all star in Granger, I would say that Rush starts over dunleavy due to his length defense and he is improving , also Granger obvious at SF I dont know why he would play pf he would get destroyed at PF. I see them trading for Bass or Varejo but i dont see the Marvin Williams trade since he plays sf

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  • #376497
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    I think if they trade for a PF, they should try to go after a Boris Diaw or Antawn Jamison or someone like that. If they can’t get them than try and go after a Brandon Bass or Jared Jeffries or someone like that.

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  • #376528
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    I think if they trade for a PF, they should try to go after a Boris Diaw or Antawn Jamison or someone like that. If they can’t get them than try and go after a Brandon Bass or Jared Jeffries or someone like that.

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  • #376501
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    IndianaBasketball, I don’t think Dunleavy SHOULD be at PF but I think he will with D. Jones, Posey, George, and Granger at SF, and AJ Price played SG a lot during last season.

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  • #376532
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    IndianaBasketball, I don’t think Dunleavy SHOULD be at PF but I think he will with D. Jones, Posey, George, and Granger at SF, and AJ Price played SG a lot during last season.

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  • #376503
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    There is absolutely no reason Williams couldn’t pair with Granger in the same way he has Josh Smith. He is long and versatile defensively. It would create the same dynamic where either could take advantage of the bigger slower forward having to guard one of them.

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  • #376534
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    There is absolutely no reason Williams couldn’t pair with Granger in the same way he has Josh Smith. He is long and versatile defensively. It would create the same dynamic where either could take advantage of the bigger slower forward having to guard one of them.

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  • #376505
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    how is danny granger starting at the four on sum of ur lineups? he cant guard fours that doesnt make any sense he isnt power forward.

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  • #376536
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    how is danny granger starting at the four on sum of ur lineups? he cant guard fours that doesnt make any sense he isnt power forward.

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  • #376511
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    The Pacers don’t want Granger to play PF. It would be absolutely ridiculous if they traded for a SF. They need a PF.

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  • #376543
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    The Pacers don’t want Granger to play PF. It would be absolutely ridiculous if they traded for a SF. They need a PF.

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  • #376513
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    JoeWolf1

    I think they need someone to add toughness to that roster. Hansbrough, if healthy could fill that void, but as an insurance policy they should trade for someone like Varejau, Jason Maxiel, or Chuck Hayes. All would add toughness and rebounding, and would be resonalbe trades for T.J. Ford, I don’t think they really need a lot of scoring at the PF position. Granger is a big time scorer, Collison has showed he can put up points as a starter and Rush, Dunleavy, and Hibbert are capable scorers.

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  • #376545
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    JoeWolf1

    I think they need someone to add toughness to that roster. Hansbrough, if healthy could fill that void, but as an insurance policy they should trade for someone like Varejau, Jason Maxiel, or Chuck Hayes. All would add toughness and rebounding, and would be resonalbe trades for T.J. Ford, I don’t think they really need a lot of scoring at the PF position. Granger is a big time scorer, Collison has showed he can put up points as a starter and Rush, Dunleavy, and Hibbert are capable scorers.

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  • #376521
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    “how is danny granger starting at the four on sum of ur lineups? he cant guard fours that doesnt make any sense he isnt power forward.”

    There are a litany of Indy based newspaper articles and Pacer-centric blogs that have pointed out how much better a player Danny Granger is at the 4 and how much better the Pacers are as a team when he plays the 4. Even if you haven’t seen it with your own eyes, it isn’t like those who have seen it are imagining things.

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  • #376553
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    “how is danny granger starting at the four on sum of ur lineups? he cant guard fours that doesnt make any sense he isnt power forward.”

    There are a litany of Indy based newspaper articles and Pacer-centric blogs that have pointed out how much better a player Danny Granger is at the 4 and how much better the Pacers are as a team when he plays the 4. Even if you haven’t seen it with your own eyes, it isn’t like those who have seen it are imagining things.

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  • #376529
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @RIP MANUTE

    I went to nearly every Pacers game last season and AJ Price didn’t play a lot of shooting guard. And I can promise you that Dunleavy Jr. isn’t going to be playing power forward.

    PG: Collison/Stephenson/Price
    SG: Dunleavy Jr./Jones/Rush
    SF: Granger/Posey/George
    PF: Hansbrough/McRoberts/Rolle
    C: Hibbert/Foster/Jones

    * I expect Ford to bought out or sent home until he’s traded.

    * Stephenson will get majority of his minutes at point guard until Price returns. Then those two will battle it out for 2nd string point guard duties.

    * Depending on his health, I think Dunleavy Jr. will start at the two. The reports are that he’s 100%. IF he’s not healthy, I think Jones will start. I don’t know where Rush is going to get his minutes. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s traded. Bird tried to trade him in a package with Ford last season to the Bobcats.

    * Granger plays a lot of minutes at the four, but I can’t see him starting at the four… So I have Hansbrough there for now. I wouldn’t be surprised if they started Foster at the four though.

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  • #376561
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    @RIP MANUTE

    I went to nearly every Pacers game last season and AJ Price didn’t play a lot of shooting guard. And I can promise you that Dunleavy Jr. isn’t going to be playing power forward.

    PG: Collison/Stephenson/Price
    SG: Dunleavy Jr./Jones/Rush
    SF: Granger/Posey/George
    PF: Hansbrough/McRoberts/Rolle
    C: Hibbert/Foster/Jones

    * I expect Ford to bought out or sent home until he’s traded.

    * Stephenson will get majority of his minutes at point guard until Price returns. Then those two will battle it out for 2nd string point guard duties.

    * Depending on his health, I think Dunleavy Jr. will start at the two. The reports are that he’s 100%. IF he’s not healthy, I think Jones will start. I don’t know where Rush is going to get his minutes. I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s traded. Bird tried to trade him in a package with Ford last season to the Bobcats.

    * Granger plays a lot of minutes at the four, but I can’t see him starting at the four… So I have Hansbrough there for now. I wouldn’t be surprised if they started Foster at the four though.

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  • #376537
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    bucksfan74
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    They signed Gooden, drafted Sanders, traded for Brockman, and still have Mhah a Moute [last years starter]

    I know Bird tried to acquire Ersan Ilyasova at the trade deadline last season – I wonder if Milw would take the Pacers 1st round pick even up for him?

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  • #376569
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    bucksfan74
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    They signed Gooden, drafted Sanders, traded for Brockman, and still have Mhah a Moute [last years starter]

    I know Bird tried to acquire Ersan Ilyasova at the trade deadline last season – I wonder if Milw would take the Pacers 1st round pick even up for him?

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  • #376535
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    IndianaBasketball, So Paul George and Brandon Rush will be scrubs? I don’t watch Pacer games because they never televise them, but I see every Magic game and when they played the Pacers one game I did see Price playing shooting guard. I know he plays PG more than SG but I have seen him play there multiple times.

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  • #376567
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    IndianaBasketball, So Paul George and Brandon Rush will be scrubs? I don’t watch Pacer games because they never televise them, but I see every Magic game and when they played the Pacers one game I did see Price playing shooting guard. I know he plays PG more than SG but I have seen him play there multiple times.

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  • #376577
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    They may have tried to acquire Illyasova, but that was when they had Murphy. I would expect them to go after a capable starting PF like Brandon Bass.

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  • #376544
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    They may have tried to acquire Illyasova, but that was when they had Murphy. I would expect them to go after a capable starting PF like Brandon Bass.

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  • #376605
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    @RIP MANUTE

    All indications are that Bird thinks he can acquire the players to compete for a playoff spot this season. With the acquisition of Posey, that tells me that George won’t see a lot of time at the three. And I don’t think George is ready to take minutes from Dunleavy Jr., Jones or Rush at the two either.

    IF Dunleavy Jr. is healthy, I don’t think Rush will see much time. Dunleavy Jr. and Jones will play majority of the minutes at the two. Dunleavy Jr. is a better offensive player and Jones is a better defender. Like I said… Rush was a last second decision by the Bobcats away from being traded last season.

    There aren’t going to be many minutes for Rush and George. And IF O’Brien decides to go with Price (who was very solid last season) at the backup point, Stephenson may not see very many minutes either.

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  • #376572
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    @RIP MANUTE

    All indications are that Bird thinks he can acquire the players to compete for a playoff spot this season. With the acquisition of Posey, that tells me that George won’t see a lot of time at the three. And I don’t think George is ready to take minutes from Dunleavy Jr., Jones or Rush at the two either.

    IF Dunleavy Jr. is healthy, I don’t think Rush will see much time. Dunleavy Jr. and Jones will play majority of the minutes at the two. Dunleavy Jr. is a better offensive player and Jones is a better defender. Like I said… Rush was a last second decision by the Bobcats away from being traded last season.

    There aren’t going to be many minutes for Rush and George. And IF O’Brien decides to go with Price (who was very solid last season) at the backup point, Stephenson may not see very many minutes either.

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  • #376584
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    Yeah but why would they waste a 10th pick on a scrub? They are more than willing to trade Dunleavy and I think they would rather have him at PF if he’s not traded because they only have Hansborough and McRoberts at PF but have Jones, Rush, and possibly George at SG. I’m not saying they definitely will have Dunleavy at PF but it would be the best thing.

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  • #376617
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    Yeah but why would they waste a 10th pick on a scrub? They are more than willing to trade Dunleavy and I think they would rather have him at PF if he’s not traded because they only have Hansborough and McRoberts at PF but have Jones, Rush, and possibly George at SG. I’m not saying they definitely will have Dunleavy at PF but it would be the best thing.

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  • #376608
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    JNixon
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    George is developmental prospect. I think he’ll chip in 6 or 7 ppg, but I think his time will be limited as well. Anyone who watched the SL and him at Fresno know he’s not ready to play extended minutes. He’s a raw ball-handler and defender, right now he’s a decent shooter and a good transition player. He’s not ready for the responibility of starting yet, he needs time. The Pacers are smart for developing him slowly, instead of by fire. He’s not a SG really anyway, he’s much more of a SF IMO.

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    • #376620
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      Theyll be ok this year….but news like this wont help…
      Lance Stephenson was charged with pushing his girlfriend down a flight of stairs, police said.

      Stephenson roughed up Jasmine Williams, 21, in the stairwell of her Brooklyn apartment building at about 5 a.m., according to police.

      Stephenson’s blows sent Williams tumbling head-first down 10 steps, requiring her to be treated at a hospital for injuries to her head and neck, cops said.

      Stephenson was charged with third-degree assault. He was awaiting arraignment on Saturday night.

      Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68702/20100815/stephenson_charged_with_pushing_girlfriend_down_flight_of_stairs/#ixzz0wj0dKSCP

      Funny when the Knicks passed on him and everybody was dissing there picks cause they didnt take Stephenson, I said Stephenson had a better chance of ending up in jail than on an all-star team. Hes a good player, but a head case.

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    • #376653
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      knicks82
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      Theyll be ok this year….but news like this wont help…
      Lance Stephenson was charged with pushing his girlfriend down a flight of stairs, police said.

      Stephenson roughed up Jasmine Williams, 21, in the stairwell of her Brooklyn apartment building at about 5 a.m., according to police.

      Stephenson’s blows sent Williams tumbling head-first down 10 steps, requiring her to be treated at a hospital for injuries to her head and neck, cops said.

      Stephenson was charged with third-degree assault. He was awaiting arraignment on Saturday night.

      Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68702/20100815/stephenson_charged_with_pushing_girlfriend_down_flight_of_stairs/#ixzz0wj0dKSCP

      Funny when the Knicks passed on him and everybody was dissing there picks cause they didnt take Stephenson, I said Stephenson had a better chance of ending up in jail than on an all-star team. Hes a good player, but a head case.

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  • #376640
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    JNixon
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    George is developmental prospect. I think he’ll chip in 6 or 7 ppg, but I think his time will be limited as well. Anyone who watched the SL and him at Fresno know he’s not ready to play extended minutes. He’s a raw ball-handler and defender, right now he’s a decent shooter and a good transition player. He’s not ready for the responibility of starting yet, he needs time. The Pacers are smart for developing him slowly, instead of by fire. He’s not a SG really anyway, he’s much more of a SF IMO.

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  • #376618
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    Iggy, I agree but IndianaBasketball said George will be a scrub, he’ll just be a backup SF IMO.

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  • #376651
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    Iggy, I agree but IndianaBasketball said George will be a scrub, he’ll just be a backup SF IMO.

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  • #376622
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @RIP MANUTE

    Who do you think Paul George is? He didn’t dominate at Fresno State… He didn’t dominate that conference. He isn’t a scrub at all, but he’s not a player that’s ready to step right in and play big time minutes on a team that’s contending for a playoff spot.

    It’s a known fact that Bird didn’t like too many of the players that’d be availabe at the 10th pick, which is why he heavily shopped the pick. He picked George because he thought he was the best talent available.

    Had Bird not made the trade with New Orleans, Stephenson would’ve been starting at the point and George would’ve been playing quality minutes behind Granger. With Collison and Posey, O’Brien doesn’t have to play two young rookies big time minutes now.

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  • #376655
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @RIP MANUTE

    Who do you think Paul George is? He didn’t dominate at Fresno State… He didn’t dominate that conference. He isn’t a scrub at all, but he’s not a player that’s ready to step right in and play big time minutes on a team that’s contending for a playoff spot.

    It’s a known fact that Bird didn’t like too many of the players that’d be availabe at the 10th pick, which is why he heavily shopped the pick. He picked George because he thought he was the best talent available.

    Had Bird not made the trade with New Orleans, Stephenson would’ve been starting at the point and George would’ve been playing quality minutes behind Granger. With Collison and Posey, O’Brien doesn’t have to play two young rookies big time minutes now.

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  • #376624
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    Its not like he’ll be in jail for years. He’ll be out in a while. He’s a capable starter in the NBA while Rautins, Fields, and Jordan I don’t think will ever start unless there’s an injury.

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  • #376657
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    Its not like he’ll be in jail for years. He’ll be out in a while. He’s a capable starter in the NBA while Rautins, Fields, and Jordan I don’t think will ever start unless there’s an injury.

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  • #376628
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    IndianaBasketball, Your the one who said he was a 3rd string player. I never said he would be a starter. But I think he’ll be a good backup SF. Like Iggy said, I think he’ll contribute 6-7 ppg

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  • #376661
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    IndianaBasketball, Your the one who said he was a 3rd string player. I never said he would be a starter. But I think he’ll be a good backup SF. Like Iggy said, I think he’ll contribute 6-7 ppg

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  • #376630
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    And why would they work on a buyout with Posey if they want him to play bigtime minutes.

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  • #376663
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    And why would they work on a buyout with Posey if they want him to play bigtime minutes.

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  • #376633
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Dunleavy Jr. could be moved to a team that’s willing to dump salary. IF he’s moved, then obviously the depth chart would change.

    IF he’s healthy though, I think he has a great chance to start at the two. I wouldn’t start him, but O’Brien is high on him. He has no business playing at the four.

    Look at the depth chart:

    SG: Dunleavy Jr., Jones and Rush
    SF: Granger, Posey and George

    Where is Rush going to get minutes at the two? Granger plays 10-15 minutes per game at the four and Posey is no longer an upper 20’s player, so there’ll be some minutes at the three… I think George and Rush will be competing for those minutes…

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    • #376644
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      knicks82
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      RIP MANUTE I agree that Rautins and Jordan will probably never start for a team, but I do think Fields can start. And no this incident wont put Stephenson in jail for years, but this chick could have broken her neck and died, then it would be a whole nother story. Im just saying I dont like the guy, not someone I would want on my team, thats just my opinion.

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    • #376676
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      knicks82
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      RIP MANUTE I agree that Rautins and Jordan will probably never start for a team, but I do think Fields can start. And no this incident wont put Stephenson in jail for years, but this chick could have broken her neck and died, then it would be a whole nother story. Im just saying I dont like the guy, not someone I would want on my team, thats just my opinion.

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  • #376665
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Dunleavy Jr. could be moved to a team that’s willing to dump salary. IF he’s moved, then obviously the depth chart would change.

    IF he’s healthy though, I think he has a great chance to start at the two. I wouldn’t start him, but O’Brien is high on him. He has no business playing at the four.

    Look at the depth chart:

    SG: Dunleavy Jr., Jones and Rush
    SF: Granger, Posey and George

    Where is Rush going to get minutes at the two? Granger plays 10-15 minutes per game at the four and Posey is no longer an upper 20’s player, so there’ll be some minutes at the three… I think George and Rush will be competing for those minutes…

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  • #376635
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @RIP MANUTE

    You’ll have to post the source that says they’re working on a buyout with Posey. It’s already been reported that he won’t seek a buyout.

    I also never said George was a scrub. I do think he’ll be the third small forward on the depth chart behind Granger and Posey though. He won’t be the first *rookie* it’s happened to.

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  • #376667
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @RIP MANUTE

    You’ll have to post the source that says they’re working on a buyout with Posey. It’s already been reported that he won’t seek a buyout.

    I also never said George was a scrub. I do think he’ll be the third small forward on the depth chart behind Granger and Posey though. He won’t be the first *rookie* it’s happened to.

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  • #376637
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    Yeah but if they don’t make a trade for a bigman then why would they Start Hansborough or McRoberts, when they could start Dunleavy and then give George or Rush quality minutes.

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  • #376669
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    Yeah but if they don’t make a trade for a bigman then why would they Start Hansborough or McRoberts, when they could start Dunleavy and then give George or Rush quality minutes.

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  • #376648
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    IndianaBasketball, How many 3rd string SF’s get minutes? None unless there’s an injury. And plus, there’s not a lot of 10th overall picks that don’t play, besides Saer Sene and Patrick O’Bryant and crappy players like that.

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  • #376680
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    IndianaBasketball, How many 3rd string SF’s get minutes? None unless there’s an injury. And plus, there’s not a lot of 10th overall picks that don’t play, besides Saer Sene and Patrick O’Bryant and crappy players like that.

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  • #376656
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    knicks82, I know he has problems but so did Latrell Sprewell and Ron Artest and Rasheed Wallace, but all of them are former all-stars. The things they did affected them, but they still ended up having good careers. I don’t see Fields starting unless Gallinari and Wilson Chandler get injured.

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    • #376677
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      Those guys did have problems, but they were mostly on the court. Artest with the brawl in Detroit. Wallace with all the techs. Sprewell choking Carlisemo. Im not saying he cant straighten his life up and have a good career. But he better do it quick before he messes up for good.

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    • #376708
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      knicks82
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      Those guys did have problems, but they were mostly on the court. Artest with the brawl in Detroit. Wallace with all the techs. Sprewell choking Carlisemo. Im not saying he cant straighten his life up and have a good career. But he better do it quick before he messes up for good.

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  • #376688
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    knicks82, I know he has problems but so did Latrell Sprewell and Ron Artest and Rasheed Wallace, but all of them are former all-stars. The things they did affected them, but they still ended up having good careers. I don’t see Fields starting unless Gallinari and Wilson Chandler get injured.

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  • #376681
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @RIP MANUTE

    OK… Dunleavy Jr. is going to play power forward lol.

    Do you honestly think that George is better than either Granger OR Posey right now? George is behind those two on the depth chart making him (1, 2, 3) third.

    Unless Dunleavy Jr. is traded or deemed unhealthy OR he beats out Jones, Rush isn’t going to see big time minutes at the two. The same goes for George…

    Neither player is going to see consistent rotation minutes.

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  • #376712
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @RIP MANUTE

    OK… Dunleavy Jr. is going to play power forward lol.

    Do you honestly think that George is better than either Granger OR Posey right now? George is behind those two on the depth chart making him (1, 2, 3) third.

    Unless Dunleavy Jr. is traded or deemed unhealthy OR he beats out Jones, Rush isn’t going to see big time minutes at the two. The same goes for George…

    Neither player is going to see consistent rotation minutes.

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  • #376683
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    If posey was to seek a buyout the pacers would try to buy him out and would be willing to. but the pacers will probably get rid of a swingman or 2 and try to get a bigman so it won’t be so crowded at the 3 spot

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  • #376714
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    If posey was to seek a buyout the pacers would try to buy him out and would be willing to. but the pacers will probably get rid of a swingman or 2 and try to get a bigman so it won’t be so crowded at the 3 spot

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  • #376685
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @knicks82

    That’s awful news about Stephenson. I’m sure Bird, who has been image conscience since the brawl, is pissed. It’ll be interesting to see the fallout from this…

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  • #376715
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    @knicks82

    That’s awful news about Stephenson. I’m sure Bird, who has been image conscience since the brawl, is pissed. It’ll be interesting to see the fallout from this…

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  • #376687
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    I’m not saying Dunleavy is bound to play the 4 or everyone will die. And I do think Rush will sart or at least be a backup, not a 3rd string.

    I know these were before the trade but it didn’t affect the SG position.

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=16972

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/ind/depthchart

    http://espn.go.com/nba/depth

    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/depth-chart/IND/indiana-pacers?tag=pageRow;pageContainer

    All of those has Rush as a starter.

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    I’m not saying Dunleavy is bound to play the 4 or everyone will die. And I do think Rush will sart or at least be a backup, not a 3rd string.

    I know these were before the trade but it didn’t affect the SG position.

    http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=16972

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/ind/depthchart

    http://espn.go.com/nba/depth

    http://www.cbssports.com/nba/teams/depth-chart/IND/indiana-pacers?tag=pageRow;pageContainer

    All of those has Rush as a starter.

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  • #376761
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    Lance Stepheson got arrested for pushing his girlfriend down the stairs… real stand up guy. probably found out she was pregnant.

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    bkballer
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    Lance Stepheson got arrested for pushing his girlfriend down the stairs… real stand up guy. probably found out she was pregnant.

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  • #376861
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    Dmthekid

    How about this trade pacers get laundry and kings get Brandon rush and Tj ford
    or pacers get laundry and kings get paul george and tj ford

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  • #376892
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    Dmthekid

    How about this trade pacers get laundry and kings get Brandon rush and Tj ford
    or pacers get laundry and kings get paul george and tj ford

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  • #376867
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    Galamoth
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    Those depth charts are also based on how the season ended and who has left/joined the team. I can’t imagine anyone would think TJ Ford would be starting.

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  • #376898
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    Galamoth
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    Those depth charts are also based on how the season ended and who has left/joined the team. I can’t imagine anyone would think TJ Ford would be starting.

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