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Iguodala to Chicago ?

I just read on hoopshype.com that there are rumors swirling that Iggy may be ready to move on from Philly if they dont start winning, and one of the places he'd consider being traded to is Chicago. That would be nasty to have the athleticism of Rose,Brewer and Iguodala all on the same team but who does Chicago that Philly would want for Iguodala ? I know the 76ers would not want Luol Dengs big contract in return for him. If the rumors are true, is it even possible for Chicago to put a trade together that would intice the 76ers ?


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I agree

It wouldn't make sense for the 6ers to deal Iggy who does everything very well in addition to scoring for a very one-dimensional, big contract in Deng. I think the best they could offer would be Gibson, James Johnson (who they're trying to give away anyways) and a first-round pick...in which case that would be a huge steal I guess, lol. I don't see them trading one of the guys they just signed or one of the franchise cornerstones, so if Philly is ever forced to deal Iggy, they should look elsewhere.

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The Best Trade scenario

Would have Iggy going to Portland...For, Wesley Mathews, Joel Przybilla expiring contract and Nicolas Batum and a first round pick!! That would be better for both teams, Batum is a better shooter than Iggy..Has better upside..We get a solid guard in Wesley Mathews and Przybilla contract will comes off our books at the end of Season!! The Chicago trade doesn't make sense! It's def time for Iggy to go!! Or trade him to Denver and get Melo and do a Sign and trade with New York...I wish someone would take Iggy and Brand off our hands for a cup of Starbucks coffee...

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Iggy

First off, Deng isn't one dimensional. He's not a great shooter, but he has a pretty nice midrange game, he rebounds well and he plays good defense. Obviously Iggy is the better talent. Even if the two teams could put together a trade, I'm not sure if the trade would make either team any better. Chicago needs a SG that can stretch the floor which is why they were so hot for Rudy. Keith Bogans is the Starter because they have enough non-shooters to start the game. I think Philly also needs a shooter, I think you can get a lot more talent for Iggy though. The only way I would take less talent for Iggy is if I can find a way to package Brand with him. They have to find some way to effectively rebuild that team because there are way too many holes and not enough tradeable assets.

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Batum is younger and playing

Batum is younger and playing to the point that this trade would not be a wise move.

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A Portland/Philly trade would be Ideal for Both Teams

In he End I see the Sixers asking for Greg Oden( when cleared by a medical staff) and Rudy Fernandez plus a 2011 first rounder Pick...The Sixers have no need for Batum other than creating more depth at SG/SF...They already have Turner, Thad and Nocioni to play SF some...Maybe the Blazers throw in Babbit instead of the Pick and the Sixers throw in Hawes to help the Blazers front court...I can see Batum play for Sixers but that trade would be bigger than most teams like to pull off...

Iggy,Lou Will and Hawes for Oden,Rudy and Batum doesn't sound bad at all...people need to remember Batum is still raw and just because he's had a good start doesn't mean he's a Championship Caliber Defender and Slasher...Iggy would be perfect for Portland and Giving them a solid 40 Plus Minute SG/SF that can play alongside Roy, Aldridge and any other combo of players...Oden needs a new place to play after this year.,..The Blazers wouldn't match a big offer and The Sixers would love a True Defensive Center like GO to put next to Brand and Speights at the 4...A shooter like Rudy would help out greatly and Rudy possibly start's in Philly after this Trade...I can see him in a line up of

Holiday-Fernandez-Thad or Turner-Brand and Oden...If we somehow get Batum then he start's at Sf and Turner starts at Sg...Rudy and Thad would be a very nasty Bench duo...They'll make up for the Lost of Lou Will's scoring...Lou and Evan can't work together...Lou is very ball dominate and need's to go in a trade like this...The Blazers could use a young PG to replace the Lost of Bayless...They get Hawes to add depth at PF/C...with Camby,LA, Joel and Hawes they'll have 4 legit Big guys to battle the West with...Iggy can be the guy that slows down a Durant or Kobe in the Playoff's....

A deal sending Iggy to Chicago will not work...We don't want Deng...We'd only want Noah and Korver...We'd trade Iggy and Hawes for Noah,Korver and 1st rounder...since that ain't happening...There will be no deal with the Bulls...

People need to know the Sixers need a Defensive Center( a young one-not Brendan Haywood or some one like that) and a shooter to add to the Team....Oden and Rudy are the perfect fits...Both wold become big parts of this teams Future...

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Sixer, Portland trade..

I truly like GO here, fresh start and rudy would def be our starting 2..Yeah, Lou Will and Evan Turner can not play together..Neither can Iggy and Turner.....Turner is gonna be good..Even at the point..We gotta Iggy outta here!! He's get top tier money and he's not a Top tier player..I want Batum in A Sixers uniform..Like Bad..He's gonna be very good..as a 2 or 3..He has size and he's gonna become a better defender and he can shoot..

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Batum is a untouchable from

Batum is a untouchable from Portland from what I heard.

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Why would he be untoucable???

He's no All Star and he's not ever going to be...??? That's another stupid statement becasue he was just offered in a Deal for Melo last week and Paul during last years draft....How untouchable is a Sg/Sf that plays like a young Iggy with a little range and less Hops plus no Gold Medal experience...They trade that Guy in heart beat...They just traded an Untouchable PG prospect for a Draft Pick ( 1 they can't perdict the placement of ) They take a deal sending Oden, Rudy and Batum to Philly for Iggy, Lou Will and Hawes....They'd get A top tier SF with elite defense and explosivness, a Back up Pg that can score with the second unit or Become the PG of the Future and a legit 7'1 Hawes to back up Camby, Joel and LA at the PF/C spots...They get the Depth up front they need, A young Pg to replce to Bayless and the Aging Miller and Fringe All Star/All NBA defender Andre Iguadola...That's a win for Portland...That make Batum very tradeable....By your account Gallo was untouchable too and he's in all types of deal right now...Portland and Denver last I checked...The Nuggets don't want him and the Blazers aint giving up more than Rudy for him....The Knicks think he's worth Rudy and the Blazers 1st rounder...0-6 doesn't help his stock

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That's what I heard from beat

That's what I heard from beat writers, bloggers. People who talk to people inside.

They could be wrong, we don't know. He's 21, he's 6-8 and can play 3 positions and doesn't need shots and can rebounds.

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Who desnt need shots Gallo...He's a fudging shooter...

That's why I have a problem with...Your 16( maybe younger) yet you claim to talk to insiders and beat writers...Look man I have an Uncle( not really an uncle more of an Old Head I've known for 15 years) that works for the Nuggets training staff and they don't want Gallo at all...By " they " I mean players he talks to and coaches statements during staff meetings...They hate his defense and injury concerns...and they feel like he'll bolt after his rookie deal runs out...

They want Randolph ( for Potential ) Chandler ( for defense/slashing ) and Eddie Curry's expiring deal ( they want that money for Tayshaun Prince or Rip Hamilton and to resign Billups, he's not going anywhere )

They want the Knicks to find a 3rd team to take Gallo and get another draft pick to add in the Deal...That's where Gallo to Portland comes into play...The Blazers have a 2nd draft pick to offer in a trade for Gallo, but The Knicks want Rudy too...That's what the hold up his for the entire Melo trade...Denver does not want Gallo and the Knicks are being closed fisted about giving up Randolph...But Randolph is not gonig to be there long anyway, He's the odd man out when the Knicks make a play for Melo....K Martin will be coming to NY too in the Deal....You heard me tell you frst...Gallo should end up in Portland, Melo and Rudy will end up in NY...Curry,Chandler and Randolph will be in Denver with Prince or Hamilton coming over next season...The Nuggets want those picks from Portland and New York in 2011, and NY is trying hard to get it to them...

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Round Ball that's why this deals gotta happen soon...

Iggy, Lou Will and Hawes are three very talented pieces for the Portland Trail Blazers...

And The Sixers could use Oden's defense, Rudy's shooting and Batum's versatility...My starting line-up after that trade for both teams would be this

Sixers-Holiday-Turner or Rudy-Batum-Brand-Oden-Very solid line up and will take a year and lottery pick to bounce back and make the playoff's

Thad ( 6th man ) Speights ( needs time next to Oden ) These two are part of the future in Philly

Nocioni gets a bigger role when Iggy leaves and Kapono is expiring this year...Battie is there to back up Oden,Brand and Speights at C...

Blazers-Miller-Roy-Iggy-LA-Camby-That's a Championship contender IMO...Iggy's D is what can help them get past the Thunder or Lakers...Camby and LA have to have a big series too...

Lou Will (6th man) Mattews-Babbit-Hawes-Joel-Cunningham-Oberto...very good bench and get what they lost in Bayless by adding Lou Will...

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3way trade idea

Im a life-long sixers fan, Chicago has nothing to offer us for iggy(except Noah who is untouchable),Portland is most likely if Greg Oden checks out ok than he would have to be apart of the deal. I think the deal would be Iggy\Hawes for Oden\Pryzbilla's expiring contract at 7.5m,& Rudy Fernandez. Besides heres a three way trade of Iggy to GS, Monta Ellis to Memphis & Oj mayo,Thabeet,Demarre Carrol to philly.

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I'd take OJ and Thabeet too but someone has to take Lou

Maybe The Warriors get Lou Will too...Ellis and another player go to The Grizzles...

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i agree with mr. knick. batum

i agree with mr. knick. batum is about as untouchable as you can get for a player that has only shown flashes. portland was offered the 4th pick straight up for batum in this years draft and they turned it down. that pick could have been cousins, monroe, wesley johnson. but they still turned it down. i think portland views batum as the main piece in a trade for a superstar(possilbly paul or melo) or a guy that can develop into the second option behind roy.

thats just my opinion from afar with the facts already out there. portland is holding on to batum.

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i agree with mr. knick. batum

i agree with mr. knick. batum is about as untouchable as you can get for a player that has only shown flashes. portland was offered the 4th pick straight up for batum in this years draft and they turned it down. that pick could have been cousins, monroe, wesley johnson. but they still turned it down. i think portland views batum as the main piece in a trade for a superstar(possilbly paul or melo) or a guy that can develop into the second option behind roy.

thats just my opinion from afar with the facts already out there. portland is holding on to batum.

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That has to be false...Why would the Wolves have made that Offer

Batum didn't even play much last year and the Wolves wanted Evan Turner with that 4th pick...I really need to see a link saying that The Wolves really made that offer...Becasue it sounds like a Hyped Up rumor to build Batum's stock in some lopsided trade...He's a nice player, young and athletic, nice defender, nice slasher, has shown the ability to get a jump shot one day...But he's not the 4th pick in this Years Draft...Let alone last year wher the Top 4 were...

John Wall...Evan Turner...Demarcus Cousins...and Derick Favors...not to mention NBA ready big Greg Monroe...Batum was not worth any of those guys...The Wolves GM would have been fired for that Trade...The pick he made wasn't that good seeing how Cousins was a can't pass up on Big and Monroe would have been a better fit in the Triangle...

Give me a link that say's the T'Wolves actually called the Blazers and asked for a young unproven Sf from France for the 4th pick in the Draft...(when they just stole Micheal Beasley from the Heat for a draft pick in 2020) and why the Hell would the Blazers have turned that trade Down...Cousins or Monroe makes them a favorite in the West...that depth at Pf/C would be on par with anyone in Team in the NBA...LA/Oden/Camby/Cousins/Joel...that's a championship frontline...DMC was not that big of a question mark that a contender would turn drafting him away for Nic Batum....I don't believe that one Bit...Where's the link....That sounds like a bad rumor...

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The Wolves actually did make

The Wolves actually did make that offer. That's common knowledge to anyone that pays close attention to the NBA. I'm not sure why they turned it down lol, but they did.

Chad Ford mentions it in his Mock Draft Article, but you have to be an insider to read it:

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/draft2010/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=MockDraft-100622&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba%2fdraft2010%2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dford_chad%26page%3dMockDraft-100622

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That ain't common knowlegde cause I honestly never heard that

I have dish Network and watch NBA TV all day...where was I when this happened....where's the Link??? I never heard any reports that siad The Wolves offered the 4th overall pick for Nicolas Batum...

1.why would the Wolves make that offer...

2.why would the Blazers turn that down...

3.why is David Kaun still a NBA GM, that would be the worst move he's made so far...

4.The Wolves really wanted to trade that pick for Evan Turner...and If I'm not mistaken but isn't Wes Johnson a lot better than Batum as far as potential and the fact Wes played for a big time college and has freak show athletic abilty...Batum just started to show his true potential...

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Thanks for a Link Iggy but Ford know's jack shyt about the NBA

and what deals would have been offered...I don't have the insider but I get the drift...Ford will make some claim that the Wolves offered The 4th Pick for Nicolas Batum...That's flat out horse shyt because Of 2 facts....

1. The Wolves were in steady talks with the Sixers about their # 2 and wanted to trade the 4th pick for Turner...The Sixers were stalling because they wanted the 16th and 23rd picks( which got the Wolves jack shyt in the draft because they weren't expecting have the picks...)

2. The Sixers made the Wolves a counter offer of Iggy for the 4th pick straight up and The Wolves said No Thanks... and went on to draft a Less Talented Sg/Sf with that ill faded pick....Why would the Wolves go after Batum(with less college and game time experience than Wes,Turner and Iguadola...) this Time last year Batum was buried on the bench and played limited minutes even after the Outlaw trade...

Do not put stock into what Chad Ford has written....The Blazers would have been all over that Trade...Especialy when they could and would have traded that Pick for Andre Iguadola...A player they pray Batum can become within the next 3 years....The Wolves would have made a huge mistake, got Batum and gave the Blazers a pick that would have netted them a guy Like Iguadola or Demarcus Cousin....

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You also have to factor in

You also have to factor in Batum is three years younger than Johnson, and has proven he can play at a high level in the nba.

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Actually Batum started as a rookie.

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I don't pay much attention to

I don't pay much attention to writers, but Chad Ford has been on the money the few times I've paid him attention (his mock draft positions for the past 2 years have been phenomenal, and he seems to have direct relations with high ranking team officials), but you asked for a link. I gave it to you. And you wrote it off. LOL.

What does him "not knowing anything" have to do with him breaking a story? I HIGHLY doubt he was lying or making this up, he would risk losing his job over a fabricated report that's farfecthed as it is. Just because you don't want to believe it doesn't mean it didn't happen.

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Yeah But Bobster, Batum didn't play like this until Game 1

OF THIS SEASON....THAT'S NOT THE BATUM THE WOLVES WOULD HAVE BEEN TRADING FOR....They would have been trading the 4th Pick for an unproven( at that point) Batum...And like I said why wouldthe Blazers had said No...Cousins on that Team would be amazing...They had enough veteran leadership to keep him in line...And On top of all That The Sixers offered the Wolves Iguadola for the 4th pick...Iggy was and Is a far better player than Batum at this point of his career...Batum may be more of an offensive guy but he doesn't bring everyting the table like Iggy does...Ask they're coaches who'd they pick In a playoff game against the Lakers or Thunder...

Iguadola on Kobe and Durant

or

Batum guarding Kobe and KD...???

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Iguadala is definetly better,

Iguadala is definetly better, but Batum is much cheaper.

And he did put up 32 on the Wolves last year. And averaged double figures last year, hes still only 21.

Right now Iggy is probably slightly better defensivly than Batum but Wolves are in rebuiliding and Batum will be better defensivly in a couple years.

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Batum didn't play much in the Playoff's when the games mattered

In fact These few games have really made Batum look better tahn he is at this point in his career...Iguadola ahd a monster game against the Hawks and I don't see his value being as high as Batum for some strange reason, They are arguably the same players except Iggy is Older and Better...FYI Iggy is puppy compared to the Pierce's and Carter's of the NBA...You put Iggy on that Blazers team and you have a serious threat to Lakers and Celtics...Batum is not Playoff ready, Iggy has hit game winners in the Playoffs (The Sixers/Magic series) and would thrive as a 3rd option next To Roy and LA...Not to mention he's a way better defender than Batum and can at least slow Kobe and Durant down...If Ron Artest with the Lakers has proved anything the last year, it's that you need an elite defender at the SG/SF on Kobe and Wade, Durant and Others...Posey was the key to the Celts Ring because of his underrated D on Kobe and Lebron...Ask around elite defenders with Iggy's skillset(passing,slashing,rebounding,fast break finishes) are very hard to come by...every time I get into a debate like this I want the Sixers to take him off the Block...But he's the Key to getting us a Center and 3 point shooter...

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I guess being Cheaper means that much in The NBA

You have to pay to be a contender, this is not Baseball where holding on to prospects and being cheap as F.U.C.K can pay off into a playoff run every decade or two...The Lakers,Magic,Heat,Celtics and Bulls are putting theie money where their mouth is...Even The Knicks are willing to pony up some money to be relavent in The League...The Wolves would have been as bad as they are now ( 2-0 won't last )...Giving away 20 and 10 players and top 4 Draft picks to cut cost, I mean they are seriously playing it real close to the red...Can franchises survive with these cheap &$#%#&@!s running things like it's a Bingo Hall....

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If their arguably the same

If their arguably the same player you take Batum because hes 5 years younger, and no ones argueing hes better than Iguadala right now because hes younger he has more long term value to the rebuilding Wolves.

And Batum did a great jjob against Kobe last year.I mean he basically shut him down last year in that game, their pretty close defensivly.

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Can we both agree Batum is Iggy Lite...

Iggy's been compared to Scottie Pippen as has Batum...Now right now and for the fore seeable future Iggy will be a Tier above Batum in every aspect of the Game...except maybe 3point shooting...But the Being Cheaper aspect is what makes me sick...Kobe is paid 20 million a year, a team would not Take JR Smith over Kobe because he's cheaper...It's a bad comparisson but you get my drift...Teams that want to win go for The Kobe's and Iggy's of the world...Losers will try to sign JR Smith and Nicolas Batum...JR is a Poor man's Kobe,Batum is a Poor Man's Iguadola...That's how I see it...

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Batum

I'm not surprised that Portland says Batum is untouchable. To anyone that counters, most guys are untouchable to a degree. There are probably a handful of guys that you only trade if you know they are on their way out. The best way to think about it is like the Bill Simmons NBA ranking column he does every year. It separates guys into tiers based on talent, age, value, etc.

I like Batum a lot. He's the one young guy that actually got in early and claimed a starting role. That was never the case with Bayless and a few of the others. I think right now Batum is playing his role and playing it well. I'm not saying he is an all star, but it's hard to tell how good a guy is when he plays with guys in Miller and Roy that dominate the ball so much. I think it can take away from guys. It also reminds me of Atlanta because I think if there wasn't so much Joe Johnson iso-ing then you would probably see much better numbers from both Horford and Josh Smith.

As for a comparison between him and Iggy the biggest thing that pops out is that Iggy is a much better passer, but Batum is a better shooter. It's only two games, but they have similiar numbers and Batum is going to often alternate between between 3rd and 4th option most nights, while Iggy is not only the number one option but is going to get a lot of touches every night. Batum is 5 years younger, 2 inches taller and making 11 million less. When the new collective bargaining agreement gets done, more than likely Batum won't ever get the chance to approach anything close to Iggy's deal no matter how well he plays. I think it's a given that Iggy is going to have to be somebody's number 2 or 3 for a team to be really good that he is on. I think Batum could be a number two as well, but think he would end up as a better number 2 (more efficient on offense, better defense).

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Great Trade Nateoak

I'd be happy getting Iggy and Babbit...Free's up a starrting spot for Turner...but please Lou Will has to go too...

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Gibson would fit in very well

Gibson would fit in very well in Philly. JJ would become an irrelevent athletic forward. Deng wouldnt be that bad actaully, just because it would give Turner an oppurtunity to be a playmaker and Deng could be an aggressive, midrange type SF for Philly. This deal looks good to me..

Iggy and Kapono for,

Deng, Gibson, and Johnson with Chicago's 1st Round Draft Pick.

You guys are right thou that contract of Deng's is an absolute killer.

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The 76ers arent about to make

The 76ers arent about to make the NYK's a powerhouse just to get Oden and Babbitt...not a good trade imo Nateoak.

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Philly doesn't want Deng...absolutly hates his contract

we'd rather keep Iggy then take on Deng...No amount of mid-range game will convince them to take on Deng's contract...

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That's a valid point OhCanada...

Philly would hate helping get NY Melo but They would need Oden and a Shooter off the bench...

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thanks iggy for providing a

thanks iggy for providing a link. im on a cell phone and dont really have the ability to copy and paste, lol.

scarecrow, i dont know why minny offered the 4th pick for batum. but i can tell portland really likes batum because they declined it. that was my only point, that portland is unlikely to trade batum.

i do know that portland needs to get a real number 2 option to be a serious contender. i dont think iguodala is that guy considering b roy. i dont think b roy is good enough to be a number 1 option. now if portland got melo or cp3, that would be a different story. iguodala needs to go to a team that has a true number 1 option(like chicago with rose or no with paul).

the knicks need to offer curry and wilson chandler for the best player they can get and thats it. they need to keep their young guys and draft picks.

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Actually watch some Blazer games you will understand why Batum is basically untouchable. He is unselfish, a great shooter and is a very good defensive player. Iggy is better, yes obviously, but that doesn't neccessarily mean more wins for the Blazers. Batum fits into the Blazers system perfectly because he plays excellent defense, shoots a high percentage, is a lights out 3 pt shooter and is a good offensive rebounder. He is also a very underrated passer and rarely makes ANY mistakes. He is a player that every team would want. I can see Batum developing into a borderline all-star within the next 2 years if he continues to get more playing time and develops his ball handling.

I just don't see how bringing Iggy would help the Blazers. He's not a good 3 pt shooter at all. He's also would be the 2nd or maybe even the 3rd option behind B-Roy and possibly LA and I'm not sure if he would accept that role. Again, Iggy is a great player, but Batum is a much better option for the Blazers plus he is a lot cheaper!

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