If you were the Pistons GM....
If you were the Pistons GM would you be willing to trade Drummond and maybe another player or two for the number one pick and possibly draft Otto Porter? The Cavs i'm sure would be willing to trade Varejao and Zeller for a young stud like Drummond. I asked this question in another thread but I just wanted to hear other people's opinions. Would you be willing to trade a young promising big for a glaring need? Or would you just keep Drummond and hope to find a SF later in the draft or via free agency? I'm not saying I would, just want to hear peoples opinions and how much the value Otto Porter and Andre Drummond respectively
There's very few players I'm trading a guy like Drummond for simply because the Pistons are too far away.
Monroe might be the one to go if you don't think he's quick enough defensively to guard 4s. I know the line would be out the door to get him as a young 5.
I think they should maybe try moving Knight (who is not a true PG) and 8 to get Bledsoe their PG of the future.
8 is about the worst spot for Detroit to have IMO unless some weird stuff happens.
I'd keep Drummond for sure.
at No.8 Pistons could pick Shabazz to add a scoring wing or MCW to get a pass first PG who could fit in well with Brandon Knight. Not the safest pick but at 8 you can afford to gamble a bit.
I say take the best player available at this point. Whether the current nucleus is going to work or not is yet to be seen but it's never a bad thing to stockpile talent whether that means drafting a wing player, providing back court depth or front court depth. If that means Otto Porter, Cody Zeller, or Trey Burke or whomever I say do the sure thing. Taking a flyer on a potential bust would not only mean a wasted top ten pick but could also cause chemistry and team morale issues especially on such a young team
this shouldnt even cross people's minds.. otto porter has yet to play an nba game. and i really see him becoming a clone of tayshaun prince...
small forward is definitely NOT a glaring need for us but a perimeter defender is. kyle singler had a great year and i definitely think he can be a sold nba rotation player.
that being said, i wouldnt trade drummond for any pick in this years draft.
Silly trade. Drummond is for real. You are essentially saying lets trade 270 lbs man child Drummond for 206 lbs injury prone Nerlen Noels. Who in their right mind would make such a trade.
No because who said Noel has to go number one? I said Otto Porter
Porter is not going #1. So why would you give up #1 value. Doesn't make any sense.
You will be able to get Porter at #3. #2 Tops. But would be silly to trade for the #1 to pick Porter.
If people are saying the Cavs should are try andtrade down then obviosuly they don't value Noel that much sense he is the favorite to go number one. Otto Porter is a better fit for the Cavs and in a draft thats considered weak there is no consensus number one pick. Plus I said I wouldn't do this trade. Just was asking to see how people value Drummond and Porter respectively.
Getting Porter in itself is a smart move. Just not at the expense of Drummond. You would want to try to trade Calderon and his expiring contract and then maybe the #1 in 2014 (protected with the first pick in case they get the #1 pick Wiggins) and maybe another #1 in 2016. By that time the Pistons should be out of the lottery anyway.
This draft is one where you take best player available. I think Drummond would go 1 in this draft so I'm not trading him for any pick. You can get a really good player in this draft. Don't over think it too much.
I agree. And I feel Otto Porter is a better player than Nerlen's Noel. I think people assume I am saying trade Drummond for the number one pick. I never said that. I just asked would people do it if they were the Pistons GM. Pistons want a small forward and the Cavs want a big. Drummond showed great potential but the Pistons hardly played him and they have Greg Monroe who is already one of the better bigs in the league. I'm sure Drummond will get more playing time this year though. If not then something is wrong with the Pistons or they know something we don't. I just wanted to see how much people valued Drummond as well as Porter if you needed a Center and a small forward. Would they have been willing to trade for one another.
Dumbest thread of the day. If Drummond was in this draft he would go #1! Drummond will be a beast..
For the Pistons, if Oladipo and Burke aren't there maybe they should look at MCW. Big guard who can create.
He can play with Brandon Knight with Williams handling and defending shooting guards and have Knight knocking down 3's.
Lineup: MCW, Knight, Singler, Monroe, Drummond. Looks good to me. Then next year if they luck out they can put Wiggins or Jabari at the 3 and make Kyle Singler the sixth man. Or Glen Robinson or maybe Kuran Iverson if he tears it up.
MCW looks like the pick here. He would give them a point guard with size and another good passer. Their staring rotation would be set and they would also be set up for next year's draft.
agreed completely, if burke, oladipo, and bennett, are off the board id go with MCW.
I was really rooting for burke but now at 8 we have no shot at him unless we trade up.... AND WHY THE F*CK WOULD WE TRADE ANDRE DRUMMOND?? R U OUT UR F*CKING MIND?? I hate stupid ass posts like these.... just no
honestly... pistons should just draft the BPA... at 8.. im not sure how a player is gnna come in and fill a need... MCW is a possibility.. but I don't want both of our back court players shooting only 40 percent ...need to make life easier on Monroe... and im not the biggest MCW fan either.. for a guy who has small hands for being 6'6'' and isn't a very good shooter and was a 21 yr old sophomore--idk im kinda wary of that
oladipo and porter are gnna be gone who I would love on Detroit.. im not as high on Shabazz as i used to be but i wouldn't mind us taking him at 8... i don't know much about Schroeder.. but ive read hes a nice prospect so i guess hes a possibility at 8 to
first of all, there is NO WAY Detroit trades Drummond for anything in this draft. if I were a Detroit gm, I would resign calderon and then take shabazz at 8. I would play him as your starting sg and bring Brandon knight off the bench as instant points from your sixth man. calderon is the perfect pg for who Detroit has. he may not be an elite pg, but he is a true pass first pg who will get everyone open looks.
The problem is Calderon gets the Pistons nowhere in the long run. Yes he's a nice veteran player who can run the point efficiently but what good would it be getting to the first round of the playoffs? We would lose our pick in the best draft in the last couple of years. It makes no sense to try and win with veteran players. If Knight is not the point guard of the future, move him to make room for a point guard who is. Energy guys off the bench are a dime a dozen and trading Knight while he still has value at his age would make a lot more sense. There are teams that could use a potential point guard if the Pistons aren't convinced he is the answer.
Andre Drummond is better than any player in this entire draft. He is also younger than almost every player in this entire draft. Drummond is basically untouchable and there are only about 10 players in the league the Pistons would consider trading him for.
Thanks for the feedback. I guess the jury has spoken lol. Potential is valued more than immediate need.