If the wolves get first pick
If the Wolves trade they have a lot more trade potential then Beasly, don't be too strong on rookies. Remember Beasly had one of the best collge seasons ever. Maybe trade one of our three maybe four PG'S. We need a 2 gaurd. Screw Roy Hibbert
Beasly is not worth the time of day if we select Derrick Williams or have the chance to take Derrick Williams, Beasly is too hard headed and he losses his cool when he feel refs make a mistake. And Beasly is scarred to take it in he is to skinng for his size he needs to bulk up . If he still bulks up he doesnt got for the post shot he depends on his pull up mid-randge jumper. With Derrick Williams we wont have to worry about him taking to many pull up shots cause he likes to take it in with his quickness inside step to the basket. Also he is 6'8 decent for a SF. but he has a 240pound body. he can turn that into a Lebron kind of body also with his good second bounce he has a huge potiental more then Beasly with getting the second chance rebound. and he has enough I.Q to not take dumn shots and too pass the ball around to his team mates.
Also with his athletism Ricky Rubio will have a weapon to dish to on the offensive end of the court . Rubio like dishing down low and with his athleism he would fall in love with Rubio for setting him up for the easy buckets. Also with us having Rubio, Wesly johnson can finnaly get looks for his 3pt jumper he like to take. Then Kevin Love pick and roll he can take the 3 or go in for the foul .
Beasly would just pull up and we dont need that we need execution on offense. that why Derrick Williams is the better choice and he work hard on the defensive end something beasly had problem with.
Rotation
1.rick rubio > Luke Ridnour(VETERAN)
2.wesly johnson> wayne ellington(CHEMISTRY)
3.Derrick Williams***> Martell webster(VETERAN)
4.kevin love(CHEMISTRY)> Anthony Randolf
5.Darkio Milic(CHEMISTRY)> Nekio polivac
THIS IS JUST FOR THE DRAFT . AND WHAT THE TEAM WOULD BE WHEN THEN.
Derrick Williams have good ball handling. And he plays agressive on attacking the rim when he is set in his post shot form. He has quickness to blow past PF. but on some SF. like Carmelo ,Lebron, - He will have to depend on his pull up mid-range jumpers and post shot.
He has athletism like Lebron James for his size. And we gonna pass on him . He has skills like Blake Griffin but shoots better.
We need to trade Beasly and Flynn.,Martell Webster 4 Samuel Dalembert, Marcus Thorton
Kings : this will give the kings A hybrid Pf,Sf. with thos rotation
1.Johnny Flynn, Beno Udrih
2.Tyreke Evans, Martell Webster
3.Micheal Beasly, Omar Casspi
4.Tristian Thompson,?
5.Demarcus Cousins,?
Wolves:It gives us a chance to have a better defensive big man and a veteran who can get rebounds along with Kevin Love. And Derrick Williams can start as are SF. This mighht just be the moves that break us out for a nice season. Cause Ricky Rubio will come over this season and his style of play "getting his teammates involved in the game, And looking to pass to his teammates before scoring" would had been nice along the side with Beasly but Williams is mire aggresive to the basket Rubio likes to pass the ball down low for the easy bucket . And Williams would try to muscle out his man while Beasly dont he just wants to pull up jumpers all day.
1.Ricky Rubio(passing,handles,iq),Luke Ridnour(pass,oky handles,shooting,veteran)
2.Marcus Thorton(quickness,shooting),Wesly Johnson(rebound,shooting)
3.Derrick Williams(P.SHOT,SHOOTing,Athletism,hardworker),Anthony Toliver(hybrid,rebounds,athletism,chemistry)
4.Kevin Love(3pt,rebound),Anthony Randolf(defense)
5.Samuel Dalembert(defense,veteran),Darkio Milic(defense)
I would like this Line up for us also with are grizzles pick it would be nice to draft Chris Singleton. He would be a nice player to come off the bench for Derrick Williams . Sigleton is more of a defensive threat player.
And with the rotation above would show that we have alot of defensive players . So most of are points must come from are new core players in Marcus Thorton , Wesly Johnson, Kevin Love, Derrick Williams.. With a solid roster of defensive players this can make the four players i justed name show their full potential
Again if we select Kyrie Irving into Kurt Rambis Triangle system he would end up like another Johnny Flynn. " A good player in a bad system" Ricky Rubio who is a pass first type of player in the NBA. A player needs to know his role Ricky Rubio would already know his role to distrubute to get his teammates buckets. Irving on the other hand is good about everything he do he doesnt catch people with his defense or athletism . He isnt fast as John Wall and Derrick Rose. And defense isnt like Brandon Jennings.
Ricky Rubio, on the other hand is 6'4 with long arms. And plays solid defense. And played in lots of championships in the Euroleague and ACB. So he has the I.Q to win . With Irving he only played 11 games we dont know much about him. And in are triangle system the point guard doesnt much have to score but to pass the ball around to start running the play. And Ricky Rubio main skill is just that. He doesnt really score but, Rubio said himself "If I have to score i wil score " Rubio is good at attacking the basket and drawing the foul. He shoots 83.6% from the FT. =)
Irving is 6'2 and you cant say much cause he only played 11 games . =/ but he looked good in the tournament. But, wait didnt they lose to Derrick Williams ( Arizona) 32 points 13 boards.
Ricky Rubio is just the ay to go man , and beasly must go we shuld take a SG like J.r SMITH, marcus thorthon etc to shoot like Beasly then Beasly shoot like Beasly. Derrick Williams is the way to go .
Oky i went over my head on saying the Pacers Roy HIBBERT for are Micheal BEASLY.
But i just like Roy Hibbert. But, back to this topic I say we trade Beasly ,Johnny Flynn with Nekio Po...For the Kings Samuel Dalembert. . He is a veteran defensive C. Who can play along side Kevin Love. He also can get rebounds. His PER. was 14.5 Beasly was 15.1 .
Derrick Williams would better fit in the triangle system . He can rebound And knows when to pass the ball. Also posts up . Something we needed and missed from Beasly. In the triangle with Kevin Love a Big Man who can knock down behind the arc we need Williams to post up and look for the outside dish outs to Wesly JOHNSON,Kevin LOVE, maybe even Ricky RUBIO.
But he is the better pick Beasly needs to go to a team already has a go too scorer. And needs some backup fire power behind they star.
Timbewolves would have a nice threat to attack the inside and outside game. Also if we want to knock out two birds with one stone.We can try to also receive the Kings 1st round draft pick. So we can select another scorer in Alec BURKS Colorado . But thats if we see something in him or Jimmer Freddette or maybe even Tyler Honeycutt.from UCLA. Unless they dont want to wait on Martell Webster to fit in . And just start off with a fresh player Rookie in any one of those players.
To me I say teams should draft Rookies because why take a already establish player who knows certain ways to play in the system when you can take a young guy willing to learn and will pick up faster then a player who just coming into the system. When they probably are use to the other sytem on there last team or few teams.
BUT HEY THATS JUST ME
Alec Burks would be a nice player to add he is a scorer type of player he would a more offensive player over Wesly Johnson. And he might find his self in the starting spot. But only thing about Burks henneeds to work on his 3pt shoot. Wesly Johnson has height and athletism and knock down the 3pt shoot . But IDK its up to David Kahn If that all comes down .
Rambis is just a bad coach, just watch the timberwolves defend the 3 ball or the complete lack of motion in our "triangle offense". Also look how good sessions is this year compared to playing for Rambis. That said, I do not believe Flynn is a good player, he will overdribble, jack up bad shots and miss obvious passes while not playing a lick of defense.
Rubio, can pass and handle the rock, he cannot score. If you're going to argue based on the triangle, he probably makes 1 pass then sits in the corner waiting to take a 3.... a piss poor way to use Rubio, however Kyrie made 46.2% of his 3s in college last year (small sample but high enough to suggest he can do the same at a reasonable clip in the NBA). Also Rubio's inability to make layups means he will get the Rondo treatment where people sag 7 feet off of him and sit in his passing lanes.
If you want to argue Kanter > Irving I can respect that but passing on Irving simply because we have Rubio when Irving can create and sports a 70%TS% while also sporting an alright 4.3:2.5 assist:Turnover ratio is crazy. If nothing else his showing in the NCAA tournament means he would immediatly be the best 2 guard on our roster.
Ricky Rubio is the better player through the fact of playing style and abilty to make too make his teammates better. We waited 2 years for this guy. And we finally have the chance to get him. And know guys want to get rid of em .Before he can even suit up. Kevin Love wants Ricky Rubio to come cause he knows his potiential and what his addition to the team can change the impact of are offense and how we act as a team.
Last season yeah Micheal Beasly was making the locker room a little comfortable. But we dont need a guy who can ease his players on just trying they best. We need guys that are willing to go that extra mile. And wants to win and not go on a 20 losing streak. Im just saying. We need players that want to win on this team . Im not saying irving wants to win but he wants to win by doing a all around game of scoring and passing, some nights he may want to just shine and do his own thing and score like 20 points. But Ricky Rubio too can score also dont get him confuse. But in different ways cause of his body frame he is gonna get alot of fouls called for him . And he can work on a shoot he is a Euro Player just to remind you guys.
And if we keep Beasly, Ricky Rubio would be a better fit. Cause Beasly is gonna chunk up most the shots with Love getting the rebounds. But if we go with tradeing Beasly and going with a more athletic guy in Derrick Williams who can run the SF and take in post shots and pull up jumpers like Beasly . But Willaims is a better shooting inside the arc then Beasly. And maybe a better shooter from the 3pt line. With Williams it would lead to Love looking for more 3pt shoots. From Williams posts.
For Kevin Love we need to go more with a shooter set of players to suround Love to dish it out to from the post or in post shot formation
.Wesly Johnson, Martell Webster, Wayne Ellington,Luke Ridnour,Anthony Toliver, ALL gonna be a huge role for guys Derrick Williams and Kevin Love to get assists. from dishing out. Thats if we go with Williams instead of Beasly.
With Beasly we need more defensive minded players . And a defensive Big man( Samuel Dalember) he is a FA.
Cstyle, I clearly can't argue with you about Rubio, but you should take a look at his shooting numbers, they're scary bad. He has gotten worse, not better the last two years. I won't go so far as to say he can't be a rajon rondo but Rondo has some awesome quickness to at least finish around the rim and attack when people lay off him into the passing lanes.
I'm also not sure how Rubio helps Beasley at all. Did you watch beast play? He catches the ball, surveys the D for 4 seconds then decides what to do (jab step - shot 50% , drive/turnover15% , drive/finish 15%, pass 20% exagerated for effect). in order to get set up for an open shot you have to move w/o the ball (which he is bad at ) then you have to shoot immediately rather than trying to stare your man down.
cstyle i don't know you what you're saying.. zebano i agree that beasely is awful without the ball but we do still need someone who can create their own shots.. with rubio coming rambis better change the strategy a ton.. the pace is right but just let them play more.. rubio has the potential to be able to break defenses down.. but in the stupid triangle idea the "one pass starting the offense" isn't gonna cut it.. williams is the pick we need to make.. if the cavs take him we shop the pick.. taking kanter would be foolish because i guarantee that another team would be willing to give us a ton for kyrie..
IF THE TIMBERWOLVES GET THE FIRST PICK I THINK WE IS PROBABLY GONNA GO FOR D . WILLIAMS FROM ARIZONA HE CAN PLAY THE 3. AND MICHEAL BEASLY WOULD BE TRADED FOR A C. I THINK WE CAN REALLY TRADE HIM TO THE PACERS AND RECIEVE ROY HIBBERT.
WHAT DO YOU GUYS THINK IF WE DRAFT D. WILLIAMS WAT CAN BE THE BEST OPITIONS FOR US TOO TRADE FOR