I know I said OKC will go to the Finals, but as of right now the way Memphis has been playing I am all for them. I am a BIG Orange Juice Mayonnaise fan. No matter what everyone has said about him, this great playoff experience will highlight & boost his confidence back up especially if he wins a ring. O.J. has been through a lot this season.
- Loss starting spot
- Fight with Tony Allen
- Father gets arrested
- Suspended for banned substance
The only big concern will be will the Grizzlies organization bring him back or ship him, since he already knows that they tried to trade him. They still have to try & bring Gasol back. Will O.J. buy into the concept of taking less money that he will try to seek just to contend for a title run next year.
If O.J. gets a ring where do you all factor him at in winning a ring amongst the younger talent in the league?
I believe this could help complete him as a HS phenom who has reached the prize.
Right now, he is really a role player. I mean, it would be a big accomplishment, no doubt, but I think you put guys like Zach Randolph, Marc Gasol, Mike Conley, Tony Allen and Shane Battier (even possibly Sam Young) in front of Mayo in the line of significance to the team right now. Sam Cassell almost comes to mind, but I feel he played more of a role on his Houston teams than Mayo is playing currently. If OJ does eventually contribute more, he will definitely get his props, especially if he manages to take down a Kobe and D-Wade.
Still, ARE WE NOT GETTING WAY AHEAD OF OURSELVES HERE? One game people! If I am wrong, please take it out on me, but man, the over reaction to this news is at a very high decibolt level.
OJ Mayo is the most overrated player in high school history..
And Memphis is gunna win it all? Really?.... Just stop it.
Memphis have secured Z-Bo and will probably now look to match Marc Gasol if anyone else gives him a big offer as seems likely given how the top FA's have thined out - Melo signed his extension after joing NY, Z-Bo has been extended leaving the likes of Marc Gasol (restricted), Tyson Chandler and David West as maybe the best FA's this summer. With Dallas likely to throw a huge deal at Chandler and David West being out injured with a torn ACL might meaning he may have to opt in for his final year. So teams with money may throw a big deal Marc Gasol's way which Memphis really have to match to keep this successful team together.
Also they may want to retain Shane Battier who again will get MLE type offers from contenders so any extension for OJ a year early may be well down Chris Wallace's list of proriries. A year ago I'd have said Mayo would have got an extension going into 8 figures, now I'd probably half it. OJ's qualifying offer for 2012-13 is $7.3 million so do Memphis have to legally offer him at least that or could they say offer him $25 million over 4 or 5 years etc and he could sign that if he wanted to.
Maybe Memphis making a lower offer if they can would be in their interests giving extra money for Gasol, Battier's contracts etc. Also whilst say $25 million over 4 years may not be what OJ hoped for it's still a lot of money and gives him longer term security so he might be tempted and if Memphis got him on the right sort of deal and he came back to form then he'd be a very tradeable prospect for teams looking to rebuild long tem.
Let's hold the early predictions on Memphis winning it all until they prove they can get past the second round. All these predictions are a little premature. They beat an old spurs team and won one game against a team that played very selfishly. Calm down, its still early.
OKC is my pick coming out the West, but I believe if OKC does not beat Memphis, they will come out. Memphis has a GREAT supporting cast.
Chicago vs OKC Chicago in 6 DRose Finals MVP I repeat.
Juice is not overrated to me at all T.O.L-23 I can make a case that Bassy is the most overrated now.
^^^ i agree i thought it was gonna be okc chicago... but i think the only team (in the west) that has a chance to beat memphis is the lakers.. unless westbrook learns to pass to durant every time.. there were so many times when he'd dribble up the court, not pass to ANYBODY, and then miss a crappy shot...
OJ's a great player. Better as a sixth man than as a starter. But, McHale, Manu, and Lamar Odom all played a lot as sixth men and all three should be in the Hall of Fame one day. Nothing wrong with being a sixth man. Jamal Crawford and Jason Terry (two other undersized combo guards) maximize their talents by coming off the bench.
Would OJ rather be the first option off the bench or a 4th or 5th option as a starter behind Zach, Rudy, Gasol, and possibly even Conley?
I think OJ's best chance to win a ring is here in Memphis. Best front line next year in Gasol, Randolph, and Gay, along with Tony Allen as a shut-down defender and a great bench. He can be the best 6th man in the league next year and could average around 12-13 points, to go along with 3-4 assists and 3 rebounds a game. He could also play some backup point guard if he wants.
If he wins a ring then he would join the company of McHale, Manu, Odom, Vinnie Johnson, Sam Cassell, Toni Kukoc and other great championship sixth men. If he goes to another team then he will be just another combo gunner.
If he improves his ball handling some more (he is already a great ball handler in certain situations and a very creative passer) then I can see him getting 30 minutes a game next year even if he comes off the bench. I can see T.A. getting 25-30 as a starter and Conley getting 30-35. If they both play 30 minutes a night then that would leave 36 minutes split between back up point guard and backup shooting guard. I can see OJ getting 27-30 of those minutes with G.V. getting the rest. Now, if they decide to go small off the bench then I think they go with a line up of D.A., Shane, Sam Young, OJ, and G.V. Shane Battier will play back up small forward behind Rudy, but he will also see some time at back up power forward with D.A. getting minutes at backup center. That could give Sam Young 5-10 minutes a night off the bench at the 3. I like Gasol at closer to 30 minutes a night than 40 minutes a night. If Gasol plays 32 minutes a night then I think Hamed gets 5-10 minutes a night with D.A. getting the rest. There will be enough minutes to go around. Should be enough shots too with OJ getting the majority of the shots behind Randolph/Gay/Gasol/Conley. The rest of the guys will get their shots on put backs, broken plays, pure hustle, and bail-out jumpers. D.A., Shane, Sam, and Tony operate best with a minimum number of shots. OJ will get his shots.
I don't think that OJ is a number 1 or 2 option on a contender. More like a 3rd, 4th, or 5th option --which is what he will be on the Grizzlies next year.
Idk about being the most overrated. I will agree that he hasn't lived up to expectations yet. When he was drafted, I thought for sure that he would be better than he is now. But, I see guys like Telfair, Gerald Green, BJ Mullens being more overrated than he was. Let's not forget his first couple seasons were pretty good.
The thing wit OJ is that he is in a good situation being a role guy on a solid team that is winning games. But its tough cause him being only in his 3rd year, is really playing for his 2nd contract, and with him playing in this role he is, its gonna be hard for him to get the deal he probably thought he could've had after his 1st couple of years, especially if he's still on this team next year, being used in this same capacity. I commend the way he's accepted his role for the good of the team. It's way easier for a guy in his 10th year to accept this role he's in than it is now for OJ currently. OJ can be a nice 2nd or 3rd option, and I really don't think he's a disappointment. The NBA is a differently level of ball, and OJ was never a masterfull off the dribble, slashing type creator in college when I saw him. But he's a high level scorer, and can easily put up 18-20 a game if given the shots. I know mentally its gotta be hard for him, and certainly his agent when he's becomes a restricted f.a. in 2012.
OJ could prove to be a great scoring 6th man as whilst Memphis have nice bench depth they are not really prolific scorers whilst OJ can drop 20ppg or more on a good night. Being the spark from the bench is what Memphis want to use him as and if he can accept that role then they have a good match. If not he is free to look elsewhere as any restricted or unrestricted FA is and then it is up to Memphis if they match any offer or not.
Juice played well tonight although they took a L. 16 pts, if he keeps playing like this it would b e very beneficial only if they can win games when he does so.
OJ Mayo is one of my favourite players , and although he has not lived up to the lofty expectations since staring varsity as a 7th grader he is still a great talent and I hope he is traded to a team that can maximize his talents more than than the Grizz.
I know I may be a bit out there but what about the Bulls making a play for Mayo since they are in dire need of a good shooting guard and Memphis was openly shopping him so they could get him cheap.
OJ will have a solid career, but I've never thought he was anything special.
He was being tabbed as the next great combo guard a la D Wade, but he's really a tweener. No point guard skills or point guard vision. Not tall/long enough for the two guard and average athleticism/first step.
I've always said Gordon was a better player and that he'd show it in the NBA.
Who said Juice is not a factor on this playoff team!
1st Half stats
- 5 pts
- 3 reb
- 2 assist
Juice is killin em softly. If you're watching the game you will see he is playing harder then what his stats indicate.
If OJ wins a ring..................... he has one more than Lebron, Charles Barkley, John Stockton, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Jason Kidd and Dirk combined
"If OJ wins a ring..................... he has one more than Lebron, Charles Barkley, John Stockton, Karl Malone, Patrick Ewing, Jason Kidd and Dirk combined"
I like you dude! He will have 1 over his HS "idol"
I don't wanna hear sh*t else bout Juice not pulling his weight!
For those of you questioning OJ's worth or how he aint pulling his weight...look at the shift of the game after he fouled out...he was HOT tonight! Played some stellar defense too! OJ is a great player, there is really no difference as far as roles between him and James Harden. Both players who are 6th Men that are obviously more offensively talented than the starting 2 guard, but it may be the defensive ability of the other player that keeps them from starting.
When his jumpshot is on, then yes hes an effective player, unfortunately thats all he has become, a jump shooter. He no longer beats defenders off the dribble like he did in high school.
Helluva move by Juice, he just showed he is still capable of beating someone off the dribble.
Wonder how he will matchup against KD since they have him slated as a 3 tonight.