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- Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:30am #30941
surveParticipant…but, name a player whom you are surprised that is rated so highly.
to me its no question Vesely. I dont recall seeing him lower than 6th on any board and I am scratching my head as to why it seems he is a lock for a top 7 spot.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:41am #550697
cbeckermanParticipantbecause he may have been playing weak competition where guarding him may not have been emphasized as much as it should have been.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:41am #550720
cbeckermanParticipantbecause he may have been playing weak competition where guarding him may not have been emphasized as much as it should have been.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:44am #550711
PulseGlazerParticipantThe two big boom or bust guys, and again, moreso than Kanter or Biyombo, are Knight and Jan. Vesley is just amazingly raw, and Knight might top out at a rich man’s Bobby Jackson, which is nice, but for pick #5 or so? Knight, I think, has the best chance of being great in Toronto where Calderon and Bayless can allow him to play off the ball and develop at his own pace. Vesley? I have no idea what would be good for him. Maybe Cleveland with Varajeo to show him how to use that energy? I just think the kid is a bust waiting to happen.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:44am #550734
PulseGlazerParticipantThe two big boom or bust guys, and again, moreso than Kanter or Biyombo, are Knight and Jan. Vesley is just amazingly raw, and Knight might top out at a rich man’s Bobby Jackson, which is nice, but for pick #5 or so? Knight, I think, has the best chance of being great in Toronto where Calderon and Bayless can allow him to play off the ball and develop at his own pace. Vesley? I have no idea what would be good for him. Maybe Cleveland with Varajeo to show him how to use that energy? I just think the kid is a bust waiting to happen.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:45am #550715
BallinlikeMJ23ParticipantIt’s got to be Bismack. I’ve never seen a draft pick ranked so high that can’t put the ball in the hoop against phantom defense, you could lock Bismack in the gym for an hour and he might make three jumpshots. He shoots like 12% from the free throw line! Not to mention we have no idea how old he actually is, I don’t buy that he’s 18…probably more like 22.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:45am #550738
BallinlikeMJ23ParticipantIt’s got to be Bismack. I’ve never seen a draft pick ranked so high that can’t put the ball in the hoop against phantom defense, you could lock Bismack in the gym for an hour and he might make three jumpshots. He shoots like 12% from the free throw line! Not to mention we have no idea how old he actually is, I don’t buy that he’s 18…probably more like 22.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:46am #550717
surveParticipantexactly…I can see teams saying he is projected to go as high as 6, but why does he appear to be a LOCK?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:46am #550740
surveParticipantexactly…I can see teams saying he is projected to go as high as 6, but why does he appear to be a LOCK?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:47am #550725
PulseGlazerParticipantWait wait wait – you’ve never seen a guy rated this high with no offense? Tyson Chandler, Thabeet, Sean Bradley, Epke Udoh? No? Not one? I mean, I can go on, if you like.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:47am #550748
PulseGlazerParticipantWait wait wait – you’ve never seen a guy rated this high with no offense? Tyson Chandler, Thabeet, Sean Bradley, Epke Udoh? No? Not one? I mean, I can go on, if you like.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:48am #550727
surveParticipantspeaking of Bismack….do you think he is another Thabeet?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:48am #550750
surveParticipantspeaking of Bismack….do you think he is another Thabeet?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:51am #550731
PulseGlazerParticipantNo. Thabeet was always a project and lacked motor. Bismack has an awesome motor and is already better on D, against better competition. The possibility is there, but not the likelihood.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:51am #550754
PulseGlazerParticipantNo. Thabeet was always a project and lacked motor. Bismack has an awesome motor and is already better on D, against better competition. The possibility is there, but not the likelihood.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:54am #550737
JimmeredYaWabafetParticipantBismackin’s favorite player is Hakeem!!!
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 4:54am #550760
JimmeredYaWabafetParticipantBismackin’s favorite player is Hakeem!!!
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:07am #550769
cbeckermanParticipantnot sure where you got your info on that one from especially in the last half of his career and he wasnt just standing under the basket.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:07am #550792
cbeckermanParticipantnot sure where you got your info on that one from especially in the last half of his career and he wasnt just standing under the basket.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:12am #550781
PulseGlazerParticipantYes, but we’re talking about when he was drafted. The dude was good for 9-11 per night early career. Bismack can do that on putbacks and dunks.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:12am #550804
PulseGlazerParticipantYes, but we’re talking about when he was drafted. The dude was good for 9-11 per night early career. Bismack can do that on putbacks and dunks.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:15am #550785
khaled_a_dParticipantKanter ,If one of the 2 top draft sites (I am pointing to this site ) think he is the third in the low risk list , and he is a lock for being top 3 pick ,while he hasn’t played for such long time
I don’t know but,I am surprised that he is rated so highly.0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:15am #550808
khaled_a_dParticipantKanter ,If one of the 2 top draft sites (I am pointing to this site ) think he is the third in the low risk list , and he is a lock for being top 3 pick ,while he hasn’t played for such long time
I don’t know but,I am surprised that he is rated so highly.0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:17am #550793
PulseGlazerParticipantIt’s a weak draft and skilled bigs always go early. Like… always.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:17am #550816
PulseGlazerParticipantIt’s a weak draft and skilled bigs always go early. Like… always.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:20am #550805
cbeckermanParticipantskilled to me means both ways, maybe you are referring to being a specialist? and how is he going to score 9-11 per night on putbacks when he misses open dunks?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:20am #550828
cbeckermanParticipantskilled to me means both ways, maybe you are referring to being a specialist? and how is he going to score 9-11 per night on putbacks when he misses open dunks?
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:23am #550809
PulseGlazerParticipantSorry, that last post was about Kanter.Biyombo is a defensively impressive big, but, no, not skilled.
And 9-11 will just be jumping over people, to be honest. Almost anyone that athletic can end up around that range.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:23am #550833
PulseGlazerParticipantSorry, that last post was about Kanter.Biyombo is a defensively impressive big, but, no, not skilled.
And 9-11 will just be jumping over people, to be honest. Almost anyone that athletic can end up around that range.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:32am #550838
dodgerParticipantHow can anyone be over-rated in a draft that is being called the worst ever.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:32am #550862
dodgerParticipantHow can anyone be over-rated in a draft that is being called the worst ever.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:39am #550848
surveParticipantwell, this draft is very underated in my opinion, to say this is the worst draft ever is laughable considering no one has suited up for their team yet.
Kyrie Irving is no Derrick Rose IMO
Derrick Williams is no Mike Beasley IMO (let him play a game first…plus Beasley may still be a star)
does this draft lack that star power of other drafts? yes. is it more balanced, I certainly believe so.
How can anyone say this is a bad draft when there will be guys like Cory Joseph, Malcolm Lee, Josh Selby, etc…will all likely be available in the 2nd round. There will be great steals/deals in the 2nd round.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:39am #550872
surveParticipantwell, this draft is very underated in my opinion, to say this is the worst draft ever is laughable considering no one has suited up for their team yet.
Kyrie Irving is no Derrick Rose IMO
Derrick Williams is no Mike Beasley IMO (let him play a game first…plus Beasley may still be a star)
does this draft lack that star power of other drafts? yes. is it more balanced, I certainly believe so.
How can anyone say this is a bad draft when there will be guys like Cory Joseph, Malcolm Lee, Josh Selby, etc…will all likely be available in the 2nd round. There will be great steals/deals in the 2nd round.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:55am #550881
bloodshyParticipantI agree that it’s crazy to see a guy w/such a limited offensive game be projected this high, but some teams don’t need the offensive production from their C–they generate their offense elsewhere and they just need someone that can slow down dominant offensive big men when they match up against LA, Orl, etc. I’m not saying Bismack’s worth a top-10 pick necessarily, but I really think he’ll be a good player in the NBA. Clearly he’ll go through a lot of coaching and training before he gets there.
As for Jan–absolutely shocked he’s going in the top 10. He’s tall and can really jump, but that’s it. He has classic stone hands, his feet are slow and he’s a horrible shot from every distance–probably worse than Bismack (seriously). I think he’d have a small chance of success on a run-n-gun team, but anywhere else he’d be a disaster. Major project w/bust written all over him.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 5:55am #550904
bloodshyParticipantI agree that it’s crazy to see a guy w/such a limited offensive game be projected this high, but some teams don’t need the offensive production from their C–they generate their offense elsewhere and they just need someone that can slow down dominant offensive big men when they match up against LA, Orl, etc. I’m not saying Bismack’s worth a top-10 pick necessarily, but I really think he’ll be a good player in the NBA. Clearly he’ll go through a lot of coaching and training before he gets there.
As for Jan–absolutely shocked he’s going in the top 10. He’s tall and can really jump, but that’s it. He has classic stone hands, his feet are slow and he’s a horrible shot from every distance–probably worse than Bismack (seriously). I think he’d have a small chance of success on a run-n-gun team, but anywhere else he’d be a disaster. Major project w/bust written all over him.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 6:11am #550930
Memphis MadnessParticipantPlayers will need to find the right fit. You’ve got four point guards who can run a team.
Derrick Williams is the only guy who I think can be a first option type player. The rest of the lottery picks are 2nd or 3rd options. But some good role players throughout the first round.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 06/23/2011 - 6:11am #550907
Memphis MadnessParticipantPlayers will need to find the right fit. You’ve got four point guards who can run a team.
Derrick Williams is the only guy who I think can be a first option type player. The rest of the lottery picks are 2nd or 3rd options. But some good role players throughout the first round.
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