I REALLY WISH HIGH SCHOOL PLAYERS COULD ENTER THE DRAFT (cont....)
I really REALLY do.......what do u guys think? I just love the excitement of a highly regarded highschool senior going straight for the NBA. Probably because I love researching the new up and comers in HS bball and I eagerly want to see them take it to the pros. But why does MLB, NHL, MLS, etc. get to draft highschool players and the NBA, probably the nations most watched sport, doesnt have this chance to. Please explain to me because I guess I dnt get it.....
i disagree.. there have been way too many busts coming outta high school. which ruins their careers. also making the one year mandatory has led to way better college basketball seasons..
I hope they change it to two years min in college. Would help develop more kids and would be great for college bball. And NBA is far from the most watched sport. NFL blows it away.
I think these kids need at least one year of college to learn the game and appreciate the game. Many times a lot of the kids that comes right out of high school do not even know the game at all because they we're bigger, stronger, or faster than other high school kids so they just went of that. Then when they get to the NBA they can't even hang with players who are smarter than them.
Also, it makes the college game and NBA game better. Now you get to see these top notch prospects play and lead their college to the NCAA tournament. Then it's exciting to see what they can do in the tournament. It makes the NBA game better because now these players coming from college are more mature with themselves and their game because they had really competition and learn what it takes to complete and win.
Did college really help Kevin Durrant or Greg Oden? What about OJ Mayo? Would it have helped Lebron? Amare? KG? Some kids are just ready after high school. The bust factor is almost non-existent when talking about kids who went straight to the league: really only Leon Smith and Korleon Young. Everyone else signed AT LEAST a second contract. They should adopt a rule similar to MLB: you can go pro out of high school, but if you go to college you do so for at least 2 years (think in baseball it is 3, but 2 makes more sense for basketball to me at least).
1995, 15-20% of the high school players drafted have turned out to be All-Stars. That stat is much better than the 4 year college players in that same time frame. Mike Dunleavy even said before that he learned more about basketball in half a year in the pros than his 3 years at Duke.
High school players usually go through several years in the minors before they hit the Major Leagues.
I think the difference in the level of play between high school and the NBA is so drastic, that just a year of college (or any lower form of professional ball) can ease that transition. There is no legitimate NBA minor league for high school players to get a better feel for the new level of competition.
In my opinion, Lebron is the only player who didn't really skip a beat in his transition. I think every other player has or would have benefitted from at least one year in college. Otherwise, these kids come straight into the league, and they either sit on the bench for a year or get demoralized by getting run over by bigger/stronger competition.
I think guys like Kwame, Tyson, JR Smith, Gerald Green, Martell Webster, etc, etc all could have benefitted immensely from a year of maturation in college. In turn, the league benefits as well.
i'm glad they can't
as a fan of nba basketball
i hate watching teams pay a guy to sit on their bench
in the hopes that some day he may be good enough to actually deserve to get paid
and of course by the time they find out, that player is ready for a new contract, or might be headed to another team
another negative is that it creates a perverse incentive for the organization, they should be playing their best players and trying to win every game every night, but that's hard when the GM tells the coach he has to play Mr. Highschooly 25 mins a night so he can develop.
Really the problem is that there are too many NBA teams, talent level is spread thin, and truly elite talent is very rare, if they weren't spread so thin it wouldn't be worth it to teams to draft HS players in the first place.
Of course there college ball is kind of a rip off for players, with all the money those teams make, they should pay their players more, and not limit their development the way they do, but that is a separate discussion
for some players i think going to college makes them better in the long run, for few others it would probably have no effect.
I mean i do miss the rush of excitement u used 2 see when a kid right outta of high school got into a nba game. u want so bad to for him 2 succeed and to do well. He would be the player to try 2 cross kobe bryant or dunk on shaq knowing that he has nothing to lose. But in the end i dot think college is better. making the kids go 2 school makes the college game better and as a duke fan i ove seeing my team play with or against future pros
the reason they dont allow it is bc there have been many busts ( kwame brown) to just name one huge one. and 2 if the kids good enough out of h.s to be a star in the pro's why wont he be after one yr of college?...but its extremely good for the kids who think their ready but after a yr of school realize their not ready and stay for 4 yrs and get a college degree like a paul harris. so it helps the kids, schools and nba teams. not to mention the last 2 yrs the stories of the college basketball seasons were derrick rose and kevin durant....so tell me again whats the problem with it?
I dont think they should. You may run across the Lebrons of the world once every 25 years,or a Kobe Bryant-TMac-Jermaine O'Neal type (guy that takes a few seasons to play to their long term potential) but you could also run across a Jonathan Bender,Kwame Brown,Shaun Livingston, etc. You have less chance to succeed if you declare from high school...the rule is just fine the way it is. Everybody isnt college material,and if they arent then do what Brandon Jennings did. I also have no problem with his decision.
I think the fact that its one year, I don't like that... it hurts the school because they come for one year and then leave which is pointless really, I think they should make it 2 or 3 years like football or they could have the same thing as baseball and have a minor league system and more rounds in the draft...
I think the NBA should adopt something the NFL has with the NFL Draft advisory committee for underclassmen in College, except they would be advising High Schoolers. The committee could rulings on where the potential high schooler would get drafted realisticly and whether or not give they should have the green light.
I agree with the the baseball idea. Two years in college or go from high school. Should definitely be like that.
that they shouldn't get paid to sit on the bench is crazy. You have to pay somebody to sit on the bench. I would rather pay John Wall a couple million a year than pay Jerome James 6 million a year!!!
The 1 year in college rule is a complete joke. The kids go to summer school at the college. During fall semster they take a couple of classes not even full-time (because of the summer school) and they don't even go to class in the spring because they're going str8 to the league. Kevin Durant did that and so did Beasley. I'm sure other players did that as well.
Also, forcing the one year college rule makes more dealings for dirty recruiting. Its been going on but now its just taking off to a different level. I would rather have the Lebron hummer incident in high school, than having a high profile coach and college in trouble for these kids whose going to the NBA anyway.
This rule doesn't benefit the players anyway. It benefits the league. The NBA gets a years worth of free publicity for future stars. Regardless of the not ready excuse, BJ Mullens is going in the first round and he looks like he shouldn't be in a Ohio State uniform much less a NBA uni.
So, how does this rule benefit the player? It doesn't. It makes them wait an extra year and get illegal money in college (putting everyone in jeopardy). Its pointless. I can kinda dig the go to the NBA str8 outta highschool or go to college for a minimum of 2 years. Leave it to the players not the leagues....
From the moment this rule has been instituted I've been against it. I think for the casual college basketball fan the rule sparks some intrest in teams. How worth while was watching a Kansas State Game without Bill Walker and Michael Beasley? But to a die hard fan year in and year out you want your program to have lasting success rather than a one and done superstar. Being from Syracuse and having Melo play up here for a year has made me rethink the rule somewhat.I just dont think it's right to have the NBA play itself off as being badder than the US Government.
I remember Years ago when Jermaine Oneal made the argument saying it was a race issue why the rule was instilled and to his credit it's not entirelly false. European players may declare at 18, so why can't a us born athelete declare for a game in his own country? It doesn't make much sense to me. I don't think it's the NBAs place to say you don't have the option to make millions of dollars if you can. If you can fight for your country why can't you participate in its game. This isnt Russic where you have to serve one year of military service I believe. To me It's just the fact that it's not the players fault for declaring, It's the NBA executives, couches, and scouts on whose to blame.
If the rule should be instated you want to have one that gives players an option to declare out of high school and then benefit from having some college seasoning. I think a realistic option to both parties, (NBA,NCAA) is simply to allow high school athletes to make the jump from the preps to pros. If an athlete chooses to attend college he should be mandated to stay atleast 3 seasons, or until the student athlete maintains a degree within his given field of study.
With this in play all three parties het what they want. The NBA get's primed and seasoned players upon entering the draft, the NCAA get's a resurgance in their programs and longevity in dynastys because of upper caliber players staying longer and lastly the fans get to enjoy the college players for the time they stay while the rest of us have the opportunity to see how well these prep to pros guys compete in the nba.
On point man.