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I just read an article saying that the current NBA system is hurting the league, where is the league being hurt?

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I just read an article saying that the current NBA system is hurting the league, where is the league being hurt?

If you got by the stats, the league is doing better now than it ever was. Even with super teams, the championship is wide open except to bottom dwellers that are there because they have terrible management which has little to do with the players.

I remember back in the day, teams had structure but now they are dyfunctional as far as management and gamble of young players. Sometimes like Rose and probably Wall, they can turn their franschise around. Whose bright idea is it to depend on a 19 year old to do things that so of your older veterans have yet to do. Their are immature people everywhere. You can possibly claim that the coaches who many are in their 40's and still immature as they cheat to win. You have coaches that have marital affairs outside their marriage. I think if the standard is so high for an 18 and 19 year old player, why should older people not be held to a higher standard.

The system has little to do with players coming out early as it is about having a system in place that does not push them in the wrong direction.

Imagine you are young and Barkley who even now has issues with gambling and drinking while driving is your mentor.

I think some of these young players today may be coming in more mature than the older players.

It is just a lot of the basics is not taught to them. I am sure if it was taught most would listen.

There are NCAA rules that prohibit coaches from helping players at certain times.

At least in the NBA you have coaches that can help you around the year. You even have ex players that will work with you.

I will say this the one year NBA rule has weeded out some players that were hyped and not really ready and some players liked college enough to stay longer than planned(Sullinger, Barnes). College is not for everyone regardless of your carreer and I think the one year rule is enough even though I don't totally agree with it. I respect the results. This may hurt the college game as far as talent but I thought college was about team play and good coaches. Also none of the players are getting paid so how much is it really hurting the NCAA. They have been making profit off athletes for years. I am sure they have no problem giving a potential 40 thousand or 50 thousand dollar scholarship when they are making millions.


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That was a difficult read,

That was a difficult read, and I really don't understand parts of it. Maybe if we had a better idea what the article said we would know exactly what system you are talking about and in which way they mean it is hurting the league. I'm assuming you're talking solely about the draft system, but your 2nd paragraph kind of makes it unclear. . .The NCAA talk in the last paragraph makes even less sense to me.

The league is def hurting right now, idk what you mean by stats though. One team being owned by the NBA, others considering relocation, arenas unable to be built because certain cities aren't seeing the value, certain cities being shunned by FA's, owners needing loans all seem like issues to me. According to some things I've read the league lost money, but we all now how skewed accounting can be so I won't get into that part of it. Other sports are going through issues as well due to the economy but I would guess that a lengthy NBA lockout is highly more likely than an NFL one because the NFL product is much more in demand.

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Basically you get young

Basically you get young immature players like McGee, Cousins, Young, Blatche, Wafer, JR Smith, Kahn (lol) and so many more that come into the NBA unmatured and union protected. They take the jobs of NBA veterans and ruin the integrity of the sport. NBA systems and fundimentals are hurt by this, and so are labour agreements. Having them stay 2 or 3 years through the college system, or pro International programs helps them mature and become more ready for the NBA's expected culture.

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The lockout

Well think about it: the NBA is nearing a lockout in the 2011-2012 season so of course it is being hurt. But not by talent or by stats, but simply by greed.

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The Faction what are you not

The Faction what are you not understanding. The problems you speak of would be happening without young players coming in. Even though some teams are losing money, the NBA is actually making more money. Those teams that you speak of were controlled by terrible owners. You can't blame all the NBA problems on kids coming out early when most of the early kids have played great. I can mentioned more 4 year players that were terrible than high school to pro players. I mean in any system there will be those who are not ready.

The point you seem to be trying to make would suggest that once these players turn 22 they will not make stupid mistakes.

Maturity does not work like that.

There are still some people that are pretty old that still lack maturity.

JR Smith would have been immature but talented even if he had to do to college. He has been in the league for a while now and I doubt his missing college was the reason he lacks maturity.

Players leaving early only hurts the NCAA talent wise but it open up the field so it makes more games exciting. Gone are the days of top programs just dominating because they have had NBA level players for 2 or 3 years. The top team by year 3 would have and NBA team in college and no small college would be able to compete with that. Now you have guys leaving early and being replaced just as fast.

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What theory says that college

What theory says that college helps mature players all that much. All it did to me was weed out the players that were not really ready. Some player matured physically and to some degree as you live you and grow you have a change to mature mentally. Some people don't mature that fast. The people you mentioned would have been immature no matter what.

I hate when people disagree with me and then they say they don't understand.

At what point is that my problem.

I can't think for you and I would never try.

I just gave my opinion.

I did not put it in some debate format but if someone wants to debate then I could organize my thoughts in that manner.

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I will admit in my hurry I

I will admit in my hurry I made a few mistakes but none were to the point you could not understand what was said unless you have selective reading which many people today have.

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If you go by the stats and

If you go by the stats and total financial state of the league, the NBA is doing better now than it ever was. Even with super teams, the championship is wide open except for the bottom dwellers who are there because they have terrible management This has little to do with the players.

I remember back in the day, teams had structure but now NBA teams are dysfunctional as far as management and tend to gamble on young players. Sometimes young players like Rose and possibly Wall, can turn their franchise around. I have no clue whose bright idea it was to depend on 19 year olds anyway.

Their are immature people everywhere. You can possibly claim that the coaches whom many are in their 40's are still immature as they cheat to win. You have coaches that have extra marital affairs. I think if the standard is so high for an 18 and 19 year old player, why shouldn't older people be held to a higher standard.

The current system should not be about players coming out early but more on setting up a structure in place that does not push them into going in the wrong direction.

Imagine you are young and Barkley, who even now has issues with gambling and drinking while driving, is your mentor.

I think some of these young players today may be coming in more mature than the older players.

It is just a lot of the basics are not taught to the younger generation. I am sure if the basics were taught most would listen.

There are NCAA rules that prohibit coaches from helping players at certain times.

At least in the NBA you have coaches that can help you around the year. You even have ex players that will work with you.

I will say this the one year NBA rule has weeded out some players that were hyped and not really ready and some players liked college enough to stay longer than planned(Sullinger, Barnes). College is not for everyone regardless of your career and I think the one year rule is enough even though I don't totally agree with it. I respect the results.

This may hurt the college game as far as talent but I thought college was about team play and good coaches. Also none of the players are getting paid so how much is it really hurting the NCAA. They have been making profit off young athletes for years. I am sure they have no problem giving a potential 40 thousand or 50 thousand dollar scholarship when they are making millions.

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Looks like your arguing with

Looks like your arguing with someone but noones arguing back. That happens to Bismack Biyambo whenever he gets in the paint.

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I honestly don't know what

I honestly don't know what you are talking about here sheltwon. You say the current system but then give no insite about what the article was referring to. Do you mean the draft or the financial way things are being run?

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I was tired and I messed up

I was tired and I messed up so I retype what I wrote. Also I am not arguing with anyone. Some said something and I responded. I dont understand how that is arguing but okay. I guess that is what I get from mulitasking.

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The current NBA system is

The current NBA system is what I am talking about. I also mentioned the current system dealing with young players. I should have type things more clearly.

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