I have offcially gave up on the Toronto Raptors
I hate Brian with all my heart i hope he gets FIREDDDDDDDDDDDDDD Im tired of these freakin Euroes on our team you would think he would give up on them after he grabed bargs 1. Im done watching the raptors as i hope they get contracted from the league. I am from toronto and im happy to see TT get picked 4th way to rep your canada
I dont think the pick is as bad as you think. We will be front runners for the top pick next year and then valanciunas will be coming as well.
Ed Davis and Jonas Valanciunas how these two fit?
My only requirement this year was that the Raptors pick a black guy, mission failed
Fair weather fans are my favourite.
Jonas was who I wanted second (after Knight), but it's not as bad as you think. There may not even be a season next year, plus we finally have a C prospect worth getting excited for, sure he's european but he doesn't play like one.
Him staying over another year will surely get us into the top 5 again next year which is actually a draft with some All-Star potential, BC may have had some questionable moves but his drafting is his best asset as a GM.
This is a good pick for sure. He's a good, young rebounding center. He has good offensive post skills and isnt a Bargnani type of center at all. I believe Ed Davis and Valanciunas will both be double double players in the NBA. I think this is a sign that we will be trading Bargnani this offseason, and that we could get a good small forward for him. This pick also shows that Jerryd Bayless will be starting for the Raptors next season based on our team right now. The Raptors have a very good young team at the moment.
Yeah but even if it means we get another top pick next year, that still means suffering through another 20 win season...I guess this means Colangelo is here to stay...
I gave that pick a A+. It was smart.
What everyone here fails to see is that CLe could have picked up Jonas and they needed a big. That just shows you there a reason he sliped god dam why didint cle just pick him so we could have picked brandon night dammmmmmmmmmmmmmm cle to hellll for going for tt . If jonas was so good cle would have selected him RAWRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR im so madddddddddddddddd i turned of the tv after the 5th pick was made god dam i miss glen grenweld he was such a good gm
jonas is good, he's one of many candidates it seems who has the potential to emerge as the best player in this draft 5 years down the road - cavs were debating between him and thompson at 4 ... jonas just slipped because of the buyout issues
Preferred Knight as well. Colangelo just said in the interview that if Jonas wasn't available they would have picked Bismack Biyombo. LOL.
Horrible pick.... Jonas is gonna take time to develop and the people of Toronto want an impact player now .... WHO was on the board .... Brandon Knight and you choose the Prospect are you a &$#%#&@! retard Colangelo? he's gonna take 3 million to buyout because he's international and the NBA is going into a lockout this is the worst pick possible ....
Imagine this front court
C- Jonas Valanciunas
Every &$#%#&@! team in the NBA will kill this team down low
Dwight Howard would score at will
And Dwayne Casey talking about improving defense
How is this pick gonna help
There only one good thing to take from this pick. They like baylesss and are gonna give him time at pg this year that has to the be the reason why we didn't grab knight or kemba. I must say i like bayless he plays like a beast at times
how in gods name doesnt colangelo pick knight or walker!! not only does this hurt the raptors but it also pi--sses off the entire fan base.. congrats colangelo this pick has just cost u ur job, wata bloody idiot
Raptors better start Bayless or im gonna go bananas. Brian the Fish colangelo loves these weak euros. At least kanter plays big this guy can't even block shots dammmmmmmmit. Bayless better start over jose so we can see what he can truly do in this league
Raptor fans show their TRUE colours!
Listen you so called Raptors' fans,
Why was Valaciunas a good pick? He has the potential to be the best player in the draft. There is going to be a lockout next year so why not stash him away in Europe? It's not like the Raptors are going to be playing anyways. Next year we have another lottery pick and it will be a HIGH one, and we draft whoever (Barnes, Jones, Sullinger, Davis)
I mean can't you people think long term instead of bashing the Raptors?
Jonas has great size, he is actually a tough player (tougher than Bargnani), he is a good free throw shooter which is hard to find in a big man.
Smart move by BC, I can't wait till next year. Y'all need to calm down and know you don't have the power to control the draft. It's done, just make it as positive as you can instead of getting your panties in a bunch.
I'm glad that the Jazz fan base wasn't the only disapointed one tonight. I have to admit, after Stern said the pick was Big V, I thought, yeah, there are going to be some pissed people in Toronto tongiht.
Being a home town Toronto guy, I think I need a few days to cool off before I can comment on what the Raptors did with the 5th pick...but I wll say I am very happy for both Thompson and Joseph...way to rep TO boys!!! I'm proud!!!
there will be a season next year d. stern is too smart a commissioner to let the league take a year off especially in these times... i have no problem with the pick but lets be honest Raps biggest NEED is a last line of DEFENCE and this kid is not that... and as well this pick means that Bargs has to be moved no later than the trading deadline... Colangelo can still turn things around if he can find away to lure DeAndre Jordan from the clippers who is a free agent
Quick fixes in the draft DO NOT make success. Jonas is a long-term answer at the 5 - the hardest position to fill. At worst, he's a good Biedrins with 10 boars 2 blocks a steal and a ton of energy. At best, he's Zo. That's worth the #5 either way and perhaps the best in the draft. Add in Bayless and Deroazan developing as the backcourt of the future, a 3 like Barnes next year, and you have a real team!
Other Toronto fans, you really piss me off with your ignorance.
Drafting a Euro vs. not a euro is not the issue. This was the right pick. The last two picks were Ed Davis and DeMar DeRozan...
Andrea Bargnani is dead to me. That doesn't mean that every Euro is a bad pick.
Colangelo has sucked at trades and free agent signings.... Turkoglu was a massive massive error. Colangelo's drafting has actually been excellent.
What all you people who talk about "building a good young team over the next few years" fail to realize is that, without some kind of moderate success, you won't be able to keep good young players like DeRozan or Ed Davis past their rookie contracts...nobody wants to play for a team that consistently loses 55+ games per year. Why do you think all our best players leave? Obviously you can't have instant success, but you also have to show your important pieces that you're committed to winning games each and every year...
I see you know how the new CBA will work. Care to share your crystal ball?
Last I checked, the new CBA won't change how a player feels about consistently losing games...
I'm an advocate of euro players, but I think this is not a good pick. Raptors can't wait 1-2 years for Valanciunas to develop or to get rid of his contract in Europe. I think they should have gone for a sure thing. Don't get me wrong. I believe this guy has All-star potential.
Right but the new CBA might make it a lot, and I mean a LOT more financially beneficial to stay with said losing team for 7 years rather than 4. Most players, you'll note, already do that.
Bryan Colangelo is the worst GM in the NBA!!!!! I hate him!!! And christians are not supposed to hate
"Other Toronto fans, you really piss me off with your ignorance.
Drafting a Euro vs. not a euro is not the issue. This was the right pick. The last two picks were Ed Davis and DeMar DeRozan..."
Pretty much summed up all of my feelings on the topic.
While Valanciunas is a pretty similar player to Eddie Davis, they should fit well together in a few years. If nothing else, at least you have two post players that will actually compete on both sides of the court during games. That's something Toronto hasn't had in a while.