[nateoak10Participant]

If LBJ goes to the Cavs I’d think someone like Boozer or Lee go with. Lets assume 1 of those guys go with him to the Cavs in a S/T who gets the other big Chicago or NJ assuming Wade, CB4 and Stat are all taken? Who does the unlucky team get?

[sheltwon3Participant]

How could this happen Cleveland has no money and what team would trade Boozer just to get same contracts in return of lesser players.

[nateoak10Participant]

its a sign and trade, if utah thinks they cant bring booze back at all they’d take a s/t for someone like varejao. would you rather loose boozer for nothing or get something out of it? think it through and put yourself in utah’s shoes. it is very possible since LBJ would want someone to come with him, even if it was lee nyk needs a center so again varejao is a good option

[llperez]

nateoak, sheltwon is right. The jazz want to stay under the salary cap and since both teams are right around the cap, the salaries would have to match up for whoever they take back. WHo on the cavs totalling about 16 mill are the jazz going to want back? They would be better off just saving money for next summer until ak is off the books and they can get some help.

[nateoak10Participant]

Okay lets say its not Booz forget about him its Lee. Cleveland gets Lee and Booz goes to the Bulls or NJ. Who gets Booz and what does the loser get?

[sheltwon3Participant]

nateoak I am not trying to make fun or you but how could Cleveland possibly sign anyone cept maybe with their midlevel exception. Lee can get more than that from most teams. You have to understand that is almost no way Cleveland can get another top player. They could possibly move Mo Williams and Hickson. Cleveland would have to take worst contracts to make any deal because no team would be dumb enough to sign a good player and trade them to Cleveland for worst players under the same type contract. Not even David Kahn is that stupid.

It is almost impossible for Cleveland to move those contracts unless they took on longer contracts and gave up their shorter ones.

They could possibly use West contract and take on more salary to a team doing a player dump but I doubt any of those player is a star.

Maybe Arenas could be had but really do Cleveland want that contract.

[nateoak10Participant]

Think about it, if your NYK and you cant bring back Lee (were assuming they wont) would you want to let him go for nothing? And if you sign Stat you have a major hole at center still, do you expect Jermome Jordan to be able to start this year and be able to help them in the playoffs if they are there? This situation has them signing LBJ (completely normal) and than doing a S/T for Lee with AV, West and maybe some sort of filler. Contractually it works now since the S/T evens everything out, now put yourself in Lee’s shoes. Would you rather sign in New Jersey where you may not be in the playoffs or accept a S/T option to play with the Cavs and be competing for an NBA title? He’d still make his money and play on a better team

It seems like your not understanding what a sign and trade does, it allows teams that cant SIGN players to certain deals to obtain them by trading them to there original team after they have briefly signed them. It has no effect money wise, its just like a normal trade. And if you question why NYK would accept that trade its not like a team can agree to a S/T and than call it off after signing someone and holding them hostage, its all agreed on b4 hand. Cleveland would not be signing anyone, they would be trading. NYK would do the signing and after Stat is signed and whomever else they get if anyone would also not affect this deal, it’s all mutually under the cap. Please understand how a sign and trade works before criticizing it

[Counting StarsParticipant]

Cleveland probably doesn’t want Boozer back after the way he left Cleveland when they had him before.

Utah probably wouldn’t want to take back Varejao’s contract as it is a pretty bad one for what you get. He’s a good player, but his contract is not exactly reasonable.

If the Jazz wanted anybody off Cleveland it would probably be Ilgauskas. They tried to acquire him when he was released by the Wizards last year. Maybe Thrown in Delonte’s partially guaranteed contract and some cash. I still don’t think that would add up to what a team would have to pay Boozer, so this is probably not a valid point to discuss anyway.

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