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Huertas best point guard outside the NBA?

I`m brazilian so i`m a little suspect to say but well huertas has been the best point guard in the ACB in the recent years and i can`t think of another name. He is fast, good shooter, has a Nash-like court vision, is really crafty at getting to the basket, he knows how to be a floor general and has a low number of turnovers. His only point that it`s not a quality is his defense but it`s not such a big weakness. He probably would not be a good fit at NBA because he is not very athletic but in my opinion he is the best point guard outside the nba. What do you guys think?


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EuroBaller may beg to differ,

EuroBaller may beg to differ, however after what I saw today, definatly, he looks like Steve Nash out there, he's really good, the commentator was saying that he thinks Huertas is every bit as good as Jeremy Lin, and I do agree. The reason he's not coming over here is because he has a really nice contract in Europe, so he's not gonna lose that money to come here for a modest contract, although worst case scenario he comes here and he's Jose Calderson, really good passer and scorer, Brazil is dangerous, Barbosa was off today as well, we don't have any size, but we pulled away when Westbrook came in, and Lebron drove us home, good game, but we could definatly get beat.

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I don't pay too much

I don't pay too much attention to international basketball, mostly just an NBA/NCAA fan, but that man embarrassed the USA team tonight. He had a few nice no look passes and that spin move he put on Deron Williams was just filthy! Huertas definately impressed tonight.

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he looked very good tonight

he certainly showed tonight he belongs in the nba fran kept saying he makes too much playing pro ball over seas too come too the nba he must be making very good money then he looked like he could be a quality nba starter imo tonight putting up a very high number of assists and creating very easy shots for his teamamtes by breaking down whoever was guarding him

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Off the top of my head the

Off the top of my head the only ones I can think of

Dimitris Diamantidis but he is getting up there in age

Vassilis Spanoulis (depending on if you want to count him as a pg)

Bo McCalebb is more of a scorer but the only one I see in the NBA in the near future

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Yeah

he reminds a lot of nash in his style of play specially the crafty lay-ups. And he really steps up against the usa a good example was the game in 2010 it was really close 70-68. He is one of the few players that can handle that usa ball pressure and keep his composure.

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He looked like an NBA player

He looked like an NBA player but can't blame him for playing in Spain and making big bucks.

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Huertas is awesome. But it

Huertas is awesome. But it shows once again that you all are arrogant and ignorant douche bags. Because before I said he could easily play in the NBA and was much better than most NBA point guards and the whole forum called me an idiot, liar, troll, etc.

At some point the karma will get you all and you will deserve it.

Anyway, yes, Huertas in Euroleague is like 10 times better than Goran Dragic, Brandon Jennings, Ty Lawson, and Ricky Rubio ever were.

Huertas is about the 5th best point guard in the Euroleague, while all the point guards above were somewhere between scrub and mediocre.

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Also lots of bull&$#%#&@!

Also lots of bull&$#%#&@! nonsense again being made up by the NBA only fans here with their crazy and imagines nonsense, as usual.

Huertas does not make that much money in Europe. He is not playing there instead of the NBA due to money and anyone saying that is completely wrong.

It's simply because he prefers to play in Europe, due to that he was never even offered an NBA contract.

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Also please stop basing

Also please stop basing international basketball on what that moron Frischilla says. He is just totally making up crap most of the time.

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Off the top of my head the

Off the top of my head the only ones I can think of

Dimitris Diamantidis but he is getting up there in age

Vassilis Spanoulis (depending on if you want to count him as a pg)

Bo McCalebb is more of a scorer but the only one I see in the NBA in the near future

The top 5 best point guards in Europe are:

1. Vassilis Spanoulis

2. Bo McCalebb

3. Dimitris Diamantidis

4. Milos Teodosic

5. Marcelo Huertas

And when you say to "if you count him as a point guard" to Spanoulis, makes no sense. That should be what you said to McCalebb. Since Spanoulis is 50/50 passer/scorer and McCalebb is 20/80 passer/scorer.

The one that could be also consdiered a SG is McCalebb (hardly does anythign ever but look to score), not Spanoulis (who is much too unselfish and has every coach pleading him to actually pass less).

Anyway, Huertas is 5th best point guard in Euroleague, and the best one in the Spanish League.

One thing, if we consider "all around game" then Diamantidis is the most complete and best all around.

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I`m brazilian so i`m a little

I`m brazilian so i`m a little suspect to say but well huertas has been the best point guard in the ACB in the recent years and i can`t think of another name. He is fast, good shooter, has a Nash-like court vision, is really crafty at getting to the basket, he knows how to be a floor general and has a low number of turnovers. His only point that it`s not a quality is his defense but it`s not such a big weakness. He probably would not be a good fit at NBA because he is not very athletic but in my opinion he is the best point guard outside the nba. What do you guys think?

Huertas is one of my favorite players for a long time. But no, he's definitely not the best point guard "outside the NBA" as he's not even the best one in Europe.

He's in the first tier, which is the top 5

Spanoulis

McCalebb

Diamantidis

Teodosic

Huertas

But definitely he's better I think than any other point guard in Euroleague. I mean, I will take Huertas 10 out of 10 over "legit NBA rotation player" (another crazy stupid NBA only fan saying) Jordan "Ear" Farmar.

Please don't use these stupid terms though like "best outside the NBA" as it makes it sound like every NBA point guard is so superior to any others in any other league.

Because the top 5 point guards in Europe (Huertas is one of them - #5) are all better than any PG in the NBA. Any one of them would be considered the best PG if they were in the NBA.

Rubio was about 20-30 best point guard in Euroleague and was an instant top 10 in the NBA the second he hit the floor.

Euroleague point guards are WAYYYYYYYYY better than NBA point guards on average.

If anything the questions should be more like, "is Chris Paul the best point guard outside the Euroleague"?

For the love of all that is holy, do not take the NBA onyl fan disease into Brazil.

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Man whatever you are smoking must be good

Did you really just say that the 5 best PGs in Europe are better than any Nba pg?

Bracing myself to be called an ignorant xenophobic douche bag.

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Man, I've read so much from

EB, I've read so much from you that I can only say I respect your basketball knowledge. However, your way of voicing your opinion is just wrong...

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Douche

"Any one of them would be considered the best PG if they were in the NBA."

Based on what? The fact that Rubio is now better in an NBA setting than he was in the Euroleague?

I'm not sure you're aware its a different type of game.

And you are wrong, Rubio was not an instant top 10 point guard.

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NBA only fans - rating

NBA only fans - rating players they have never even seen play.

The comedy continues..............

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Rubio might not even be a top

Rubio might not even be a top 10 PG right now

1) Chris Paul

2) Rajaan Rondo

3) Derrick Rose

4) Tony Parker

5) Deron Williams

6) Russell Westbrook

7) Steve Nash

8) Kyrie Irving

9) Kyle Lowry

10) John Wall

Something like that maybe? ranking itself does not really matter

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"But it shows once again that

"But it shows once again that you all are arrogant and ignorant douche bags. "

... I'm now pretty sure you're a diplomat...

Anyway I always loved Huertas (since his joventut days) and his way to handle the game. Nice player but maybe not enough athletic to compete at the best level in the NBA. Rubio has athletic tools that allow him to play but players like pepe sanchez, pablo prigioni or huertas lack great speed and lateral quickness to be as effective in the nba (as they are/were in the euroleague).

I'm very intrigued to see what european combos sg/pg De Colo and Shved are going to do with theirr respective teams. It could open the door to other european players in the same mold.

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De Colo and Shved are not

De Colo and Shved are not combo guards. They are shooting guards. Neither one of them can play PG.

De Colo is too slow to guard a single point guard in Euroleague. He has to play SG or he gets destroyed in Euroleague, Eurocup level.......Absolutely no way in hell is he a point guard or combo guard.

Shved can defend the one and he can bring the ball up the court, but he has an exceptionally low basketball IQ - I put him in the Beasly range. That is how stupid and brain dead of a player he is.

Having him run a team would be stupid to say the least. Messina is overrated but everything he said about Shved (he has never liked him) is true.

Very great physical tools but stupid as a rock. That is Shved. You don't want such players playing point guard.

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De Colo is a really nice

De Colo is a really nice player though. But no way in hell is he a combo guard.

About Shved he has no business being compared to Prigioni as Prigioni was leaps better than Shved will ever be. Not even comparable. Also nothting to do with Huertas. Anyone in Europe that suggests Shved is better thn Huertas would be called a pure idiot.

Huertas is better than Shved in every single league on the planet. And you are crazy to even suggest otherwise.

Why do you bring up Sanchez? Just because he played in the NBA and was from Argentina? Sahcnez was a bit above a scrub in Euroleague. Wen he played in PAO he was a third string PG most of the time.

For example, he was about HALF as good as Georgios Kalaitzis was.

What does Sanchez have to do with this? Prigioni was vastly better than Pepe. Pepe only made the NBA because he played in NCAA. He never had the level of a top player.

He was one of the worst PAO point guards of the 2000s decade.

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^What do you think of Davis

^What do you think of Davis Bertans, just curious, I saw some clips of him and I think he has a lot of potential. And also what you think of Nikola Mirotic. Personally, I think he's a huge asset for the Bulls and has top 10 lotto talent, just slipped because he's gonna be in Europe for a while.

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Carlos Arroyo? Used to

Carlos Arroyo?

Used to dominate Euroleage then the Jazz signed him in the 2002-03 season sat a year behind Stockton and Mark Jackson then got the starting job and didn't do too bad 12 pts and 5 asts a game and lead the miserable Jazz to a 42-40 record when they were supposed to be the best team in the NBA. Then in 2004-05 got into disputes with Sloan and never was the same again and now as Stephen A. Smith would say he is a bonifide scrub. It all depends on where the Euro point guard is and what system he plays for.

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To me Huertas is very

To me Huertas is very similiar to lithuanian Sarunas Jasikevicius who is arguably the most succesfull point guard of this decade from those who played in Europe. Although Huertas hasn't showed that he is as much a winner as Saras is , their skill sets are pretty similiar I think.

Talking about the best point guards nowadays in Europe my top list would be

1. Diamantidis - because of his defense, all around game, he may not be best passer, but man, he's amazing player and can shoot it big time too.

2. McCalebb - he is simply amazing with his speed and athletism, but the best thing is how he uses his physical gifts, because we have seen many players with great athletism who weren't nearly as succesful as Bo.

3. Teodosic - another player who reminds me of Saras with his passing and shooting abilities. Still very young hopefully will get to NBA someday it would be interesting to see how would he play there.

And only after those 3 I would put Huertas, he is really good, but I think he's clearly a notch below.

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@European Baller I never

@European Baller

I never compared prigioni to shved or de colo ...!!! Are you drunk when you write ? I was only comparing rubio to sanchez/prigioni/huertas on a very particular point : atheltic skills (major issue in an athlete league as the NBA).

I ended my coment by a personal wonder on how de colo and shved are gonna succeed in the league... because I think they are true combo guard and not what we're calling currently combo guard who are only small scoring sg in a pg body and lack size (thornton, crawford, lou williams). De colo and shved are real sg who can handle the ball and play the point more effectively than those undersized sg...

Sometimes you scared me EB... really... you should learn to listen or read, before posting.

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Carlos Arroyo? Used to

Carlos Arroyo?

Used to dominate Euroleage then the Jazz signed him in the 2002-03 season sat a year behind Stockton and Mark Jackson then got the starting job and didn't do too bad 12 pts and 5 asts a game and lead the miserable Jazz to a 42-40 record when they were supposed to be the best team in the NBA. Then in 2004-05 got into disputes with Sloan and never was the same again and now as Stephen A. Smith would say he is a bonifide scrub. It all depends on where the Euro point guard is and what system he plays for.

What do you mean Arroyo used to dominate Euroleague? This is totally false. He played 2 years in Euroleague and was never even considered a good player really.

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@European Baller I never

@European Baller

I never compared prigioni to shved or de colo ...!!! Are you drunk when you write ? I was only comparing rubio to sanchez/prigioni/huertas on a very particular point : atheltic skills (major issue in an athlete league as the NBA).

I ended my coment by a personal wonder on how de colo and shved are gonna succeed in the league... because I think they are true combo guard and not what we're calling currently combo guard who are only small scoring sg in a pg body and lack size (thornton, crawford, lou williams). De colo and shved are real sg who can handle the ball and play the point more effectively than those undersized sg...

Sometimes you scared me EB... really... you should learn to listen or read, before posting.

Neither one of them is a combo guard. You obviosuly have never seen them play if you don't understand that they are pure shooting guards. Especially De Colo. There is not a chance in hell that he has at guarding a single point guard in Euroleague, Eurocup, or ACB and yet you call him a "combo guard".

The point is what you are saying makes no sense. I agree that Shved can play point guard, but like I explained already - he is as dumb as a rock. No competent coach will ever use him at point guard unless he was forced to because of injuries. Shved is the exact definition of brainless athlete. He probably has the lowest basketball IQ of any guard in Euroleague (along with Sergio Llull).

And about your claim that Rubio is "athletic enough for the NBA" and that other point guards in Euroleague are not.............please put down the crack pipe.

Rubio is barely even average or even less than that for athletic standards of most Euroleague point guards. You are obviously just full of &$#%#&@!, but just pretending you are not.

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To me Huertas is very


To me Huertas is very similiar to lithuanian Sarunas Jasikevicius who is arguably the most succesfull point guard of this decade from those who played in Europe. Although Huertas hasn't showed that he is as much a winner as Saras is , their skill sets are pretty similiar I think.

Talking about the best point guards nowadays in Europe my top list would be

1. Diamantidis - because of his defense, all around game, he may not be best passer, but man, he's amazing player and can shoot it big time too.

2. McCalebb - he is simply amazing with his speed and athletism, but the best thing is how he uses his physical gifts, because we have seen many players with great athletism who weren't nearly as succesful as Bo.

3. Teodosic - another player who reminds me of Saras with his passing and shooting abilities. Still very young hopefully will get to NBA someday it would be interesting to see how would he play there.

And only after those 3 I would put Huertas, he is really good, but I think he's clearly a notch below.

Spanoulis is better than any of them. How are you going to seriously not even list him? You clearly don't ever watch Euroleague.

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"You obviosuly have never

"You obviosuly have never seen them play if you don't understand that they are pure shooting guards"

... cause obviously you are the only one in this site who have seen every player in every game and has THE TRUTH.

EB you're a F*CKING JOKE. I hope you're only a 13 year old teenage cause it gives you a little excuse to be such an egocentric, condescendant assh*le, always sure to be the only one who has an opinion that worths it. If it's not the case... It's useless to talk with you.

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EB is just

A foul mouthed, ignorant troll.

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I have a theory. I get the

I have a theory. I get the feeling that if EB is really like this in real life, perhaps he's the illegitmate son of a former NBA player who had a stint in Greece/Europe. It would explain his deep rooted hatred for all things NBA and American. A young Greek male denied by his American basketball playing father........and the rejection of his semi-talented father causes the young man to despise everything related to him. Hey, perhaps his dad is Winston Bennett. He played in europe for a while and he was a sex addict. Anything is possible

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