How Michael Jordan really answered the Lebron and Kobe question!
Mike aint no fool!
"Mike aint no fool!''' in regards to the Kobe and Lebron debate maybe not, but Kwame and Adam Morrison would prove otherwise
Yeah Michael said his opinion with out any hate..
I have when media makes anything they want from the words famous people said
I realize Lebron doesn't have as many rings but taking either one over the other is kindof insane. You can argue Kobe has more rings but in the end it comes down to ability to lead your team to a championship right? The greatest ever aren't considered the greatest because they won a ring, its because they lead their team to a championship. That's what seperates greats from legends. So shouldn't it be measured in Finals MVPs not rings? Jordan isn't the greatest because he won 6 rings, he was the greatest because he lead his team to those rings 6/6 he was the finals MVP, the unquestioned leader to a championship. Bird is considered one of the greatest not because he won 3 rings but because he lead his team to those rings, magic won 3/5 finals MVPs because he lead his team.
So now you have Kobe who lead his team to championships 2 championships as the man, and lebron has lead his team to 1. But people are so quick to take Kobe over Lebron because he has more rings. Rings are a team accomplishment but finals MVP goes to the player that had the greatest impact in winning that ring. That being said you still have to have a team around you to get to the finals to get that Finals MVP. Kobe spent lots of years taking crap to the playoffs, you guys remember that pheonix series, Lakers were only there because of Kobe and lebron was in the same spot with the cavs. Difference is Lakers traded kwame for gasol and the cavs weren't willing to give hickson for amare.
Take the year Kobe dominated against Orlando.
In the finals Kobe was nuts with averages of: 32.8 ppg, 5.7 rpg, 7.8 apg, 1.2 spg, 1.3 bpg
Kobe wanted it and you could tell he did by the averages
The series before that Lebron played orlando and had averages of: 38.5 ppg, 8.2 rpg, 8.0 apg, 1.2 spg, and 1.2 bpg
Does it make Kobe a better player because lebron couldnt get the wins? Look at the stats and there is literally nothing else he could do, he even had a game winner in that series.
The next season is the same sort of thing
I did jump around a bit and it does sound like I am undermining kobe, i left out how lebron crapped himself in the finals a couple times, but to be fair i left out kobes to. So here's their finals crapping themselves series
Lebron 07 against spurs at age 22: 22, 7 and 6.8 on 35.6% and 20% from 3
Kobe 04 against pistons at age 25: 22.6, 2.8 and 4.4 on 38.1% and 17.4% from 3
Lebron 11 against mavs age 26: 17.8, 7.2 and 6.8 on 47.8% and 32% from downtown
Kobe 08 against celtics age 29: 25.7, 4.7 and 5.0 on 40.5% and 32%
Kobes fight is second to none in the league for the past decade. But I just want to maybe give a perspective that maybe shows that despite the rings Kobe isn't that far ahead of Lebron. And at this point Kobe is ahead of lebron, you can't really argue that, but we will have to wait and see how it all plays out.
In my opinion, when you reach a certain level of excellence, a certain rarefied air.. championships matter. Lebron possibly could pass Michael Jordan and Kobe Bryant in almost every statistical category, but if he ends his career with 1 or 2 championships, I don't think you can put him over Jordan or Kobe.
I personally feel if Lebron continue s to perform at a high level and he wins 3 more championships, he should be considered the greatest ever, but until he gets at least 3, he shouldn't even be in the conversation with Jordan and Kobe.
Everyone knows the story of MJ, Bird and Magic arguing at the 92 Olympics while playing pool, they kicked all of the other players out of the room or told them to sit down, they couldn't be in the conversation if they didn't have rings.
That's Lebron playing pool with Jordan and Kobe, Jordan has 6, Kobe has 5, and right now Lebron has 1. He's not able to finish the game, he has to leave.
If Lebron ends his career at his current averages, and has at least 4 championships, he's the greatest ever.If he gets 3, he's in the top 5. I think right now our top 5 players ever are Jordan, Magic, Kobe, Bird, Russell. Lebron still has to pass The Dream, Shaq, and Tim Duncan before he can even get to that top 5. All great players, all have the stats and the hardware. Lebron can one day be the greatest, as Jordan said he's the most dominant in the league right now, but for legacy right now, he's incomplete and still has some winning to do to be compared to MJ and Kobe..