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  • #68622
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    OhCanada-
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     Seriously. How is anyone ever gonna beat these guys. The only thing that can beat them is the salary cap. If these guys stay together until they retire how many Championships do they win?

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  • #1119223
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    the real question is.. which team to you possibly see beating them in the forseeable future… and the only one i can think of right now is philly in 2-3 years if they get a top tier FA.. idk enough about a healthy boston team to even have an opinion on them at this point, but it seems like they could be a second..

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  • #1119225
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     Boston on paper has the better team

    Kyrie (all star) 

    Brown (all star)

    Hayward (all star)

    Morris (not named zaza or McGee)

    Hortford (all star)

    Tatum (6th man of year candidate like Iggy)

    plus Rosier, Baynes and Smart are way better than the rest of the bottom feeders on GSW like Looney and Nick Young. The only thing is they don’t have a Durant of Curry level player, but they are deeper, and have what would be my guess as the draft pick for the worst team in the league next year while the Warriors will all be turning 30 by that time. Warriors will win 2019 most likely, but this next decade will be dominated by the Celtics 2020 and beyond.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1119228
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     I predict 0 or 1 more. That Rockets series really felt like their "last stand," where the old champs are on the ropes and about to get knocked out by the hungry young challengers, but they make a heroic effort and grit it out one last time. Then the following year belongs to the up-and-comers. 

    Like Borg v. McEnroe at Wimbledon, or Magic’s Lakers holding off Detroit for their last title in ’88. Or the Pistons holding off Jordan’s Bulls one last time, a couple years later.

    On the other hand, injuries and stupid roster moves by competitors could allow the Warriors to extend the dynasty a bit longer. I expect them to bring pretty much everyone back other than McGee, who earned a shot to play 24+ minutes a night somewhere, and maybe West if he retires.

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    • #1119234
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      Rico
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       Problem with your scenario is that CP3 doesn’t fit the bill of a young up-and-comer.  

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      • #1119248
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        cohenbc1
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        True, but until he got hurt I thought he played *hungrier* than anyone on GSW in that series.

        It’s not always that youth beats age, it’s more that hunger beats complacency. It’s hard to build up the motivation needed to win a title year after year after year. That’s why dynasties sometimes end or at least get interrupted.

         

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        • #1119286
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           If Iguodala is healthy the Warriors win in 5. GSW really needs to shore up their bench as this year was noticeably weaker than in the past. Think both a healthy Boston and healthy Spurs give them legitimate problems.

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        • #1119299
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           They also lost game 1 and 3 by a combined 70pts and Paul played poorly and padded his stats in garbage time. 

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  • #1119242
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    The Goat
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     Warriors need to keep retooling and if they do, they can keep it going. They saw Iggy drop off with injury, so id be looking to find the new glue guy that can fill his role as well as a backup PG. A Draymond clone wouldnt hurt either, but good luck finding that, cos love him or hate him, if anyone else had a guy like that the Warriors would be vulnerable. 

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  • #1119243
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    Gronounours
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     3.48 [95% CI: 3.02-3.78; p<0.05], if everyone stays healthy.

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  • #1119253
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    Hitster
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    CP3 is 33 and Harden turns 29 soon against Steph Curry 30, Draymond and Klay 28 and KD who turns 30 in the autumn. So GSW stack up well against Houston that way.

    Philly if Fultz gets sorted and Embeast stays sound plus with Simmons upside will be in the mix very soon.

    Boston with a fit roster should be a legit finalist and could upstage GSW.

    I reckon GSW will win one or two more personally but will be around the Finals for 3 to 5 more years.

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  • #1119254
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     Hard to say. They have become a very top heavy team since acquiring Durant and that’s unlikely to change. With Thompson and green being due raises in the next couple seasons, it’s going to be even harder to find and keep quality reserves, which could become more of a problem as their core starts to age. I don’t honestly know how much longer Kerr will continue to coach, as he is suffering from a variety of health issues. Their focus and effort level was clearly an issue this season. If they continue to rely on their ability to flip the switch it could come back to haunt them. 

    Teams now are assembling rosters with the sole focus of beating GS. I know they seem invincible at the moment but things can change pretty rapidly in the nba. Who knows what could happen next year or the year after with all the player movement going on? And who knows if jealously will start to creep in with their core? 

     

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  • #1119263
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    up until this year, the Warriors have had not only the best collective numbers in the league the 3 previous years but in the history of the game, but this last year their defense has already fallen big time (probably due to motivation) and for the 1st time their vulnerability has been uncovered.

    obviously with those type of numbers it´s been impossible to beat them, being stopped only by injuries, but from now on things are different; of course the Warriors will still be favourite for the next 2-3 year but that doesn’t mean they can’t be beaten, but for that to happen you need 2 things: first, to understand how conditions/rules work and second, you need versatility in both ends and depth.

    the perfect example of this are the original "bad boys", as that TEAM was able to not only beat Magic’s Lakers and Bird’s Celtics in their prime, which were the materialization and emergence of the conditions in the 80’s, but they were also able to beat MJ’s Bulls, which were the next force that was about to emerge under the materialization of the new rules and therefore the new style of isolation basketball that unleashed that non-human beast called Michael Jordan.

    Curry and the Warriors have taken basketball to another very different state (not better or worse just different) not seen before but this is not the end of that "new tendency", and if they want to keep on top of that "wave", they’ll have to work much harder than what they’ve shown this year.

    we still are around 3-4 years away from the explosion of this "bubble" of high pace, high offense and no defense we are in, and that is why the Warriors have been able to win, has they were the ones that scored the best while also defending the best in a league that forgot how to defend, but that tendency is ending soon, and the next "wave" will be a balance between high offense with the 3P shot as the main weapon, but mixed with very high defense with super versatile long and athletic players that will cover so much space and will keep that super high intensity the whole game thanks to those freak athletic conditions but also due to depth, which will be the next "trait" that will emerge in next years…

    the team that adapts 1st will dominate the next decade, and will also have a chance to beat the Warriors the next 3 years.

    for the moment i only see the Celtics as the next "force", specially if some how they manage to get Bamba, and then in the second place i see the Jazz in the west becoming to dominant force in the west once the Warriors start fading.

    what it is clear, is that you won’t beat the Warriors or become the next great franchise by forming a "big 3" or a "big 4"…that is obsolete and that’s why projects like OKC, Minnesota or even Cavs are failing;

    that’s the wrong path…Boston and Jazz are in the right path; Toronto was in the right path and they blew all up when they still were half way and just needed a few changes that could easily have been made.

    we’ll see what happens but if someone wants to beat the Warriors it won’t happen with big names or stars, but with 7-8 talented, long and versatile freak athletes that play with high intensity and hart. 

    The age of super-ego superstars and selfish basketball is about to end, to open the door to the age of collective effort, to the "new version" of the decade of the 80’s, that is TEAM basketball, but with a new emerged trait, that is "freakishness". 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1119290
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     The Warriors are great, but Iggy is so important and he’s going into his age 35 season. Can they replace him?

    The west won’t be easy and the East looks like Boston and Philly could be really good. Philly and Boston are also going to be adding more lottery talent the next couple of years. 

    Boston looks like the strongest challenger for the Warriors. They match up with them, play great D, have a great coach and the best depth in the league. The finals will be exciting in the future!

     

     

     

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