How high can the Lakers pick become?
The Cavs receive the Lakers first round pick(Swapped from Miami) and it sits at the 19th overall pick, the Cavs also own the 32nd and the 33rd pick.
Do you see any team(s) in the top 12 that would make a deal with the Cavaliers on draft day? like last year where the Cavaliers traded picks 24, 33 and 34 for 17.
last year's deal was terrible...
they got tyler zeller (a noce rotation role player) but gave up on 24 (which could have been perry jones or moultrie or jeff taylor...)
33 and 34 (potentially : draymond green, doron lamb, will barton, ty' taylor, O'Quinn or shengelia or even machado...)
the cavs' short roster (livingston speights and ellington were not with the team at that time) could have benefited from last's year deep draft.
I hope they will draft better that year. I don't see any team trying to get some draft picks of this year... so it should be difficult to get a fair deal with that 19th pick . The 2 early 2nd round should be used on european players (nogeira, karasev ?...) and let them in europe.
How has that been terrible? Zeller hasn't set the world on fire but has been a million times better than anyone else you listed.
well zeller is a nice rotation center and should be a solid backup à la Collison. I really like him. But I really don't like that trade. Cleveland gave up 3 draft picks in a deep draft
When you are cleveland (at the end of last season) and you're in a rebuilding process you need more talented players (quality AND quantity). Last year's draft offered cleveland talent (Perry Jones) and various role players (Doron Lamb, Draymond Green...).
the question is : Zeller alone or Jones AND Lamb/Green (Crawder/Barton/Taylor/ O'Quinn...)
that's why it's a bad trade... and this year could give another shot at taking low risk usefull underpaid role players in the early 2nd round (Franklin, Crabbe, Wolters, Kabongo, Mbakwe, Curry, BJ Young, Kelly, Withey, Brown).
Thank you. I thought I was the only one who thought that trade was bad. To give up three picks to get Tyler Zeller just made no sense. I like Tyler Zeller too, but they could have had Moultrie, Perry Jones, Jeffrey Taylor, Festus Ezeli, and a number of others with their pick at 24 and they still could've added Draymond Green, Will Barton, Jae Crowder, Doron Lamb, Kyle O'Quinn or others with their second round picks.
The Cavs could have two three players with first round talent rather than just one in the solid Zeller. I didn't think it was smart, but I still hope for Zellers sake and theirs he turns into a beast and a steal in the strong 2012 draft.
The majority of Cavs fans weren't happy when the trade went down, but Zeller hasn't been too bad. He hasn't been a dominate post presence by any means, but he has been a serviceable big. Eventually, he'll be a backup big coming off the bench and at 7'0" with decent range, I'm ok with that.
As for the Lakers pick, I don't see us trading up from there because as previously stated, who wants to move down in an already weak draft? However, the Cavs will NOT bring in 4 rookies no matter how badly they need talent. Personally, I predict the Cavs to package 31+33 to move up into the very bottom of the 1st round (26-30) range with a contending team that wants 2nd round picks (as they are not guaranteed) over bringing in another guaranteed contract. Cavs can handle a guaranteed contract because of their ridiculous amount of cap space and a contending team probably doesn't seen much difference in talent from the 26-33 picks.
Depending on how the lottery plays out, I'm fairly confident the Cavs go with Otto Porter as long as they're not the #1 overall pick (in which they'd take Noel).. Lakers pick I see them taking a big who needs some work (Steven Adams or Rudy Gobert come to mind), and if they move up into the end of the 1st round I see them taking a foreigner to stash overseas (Karasev, Nogueira, etc.)
i agree with most of what you said but there is no way the cavs would package two early second round picks for just three to seven draft picks up. it would have to be a mid first round pick to work. early second round picks are more valuable than the later first round picks often because second round draft picks don't get guaranteed contracts right away. with that first round pick, the cavs would be stuck with who they pick for better or worse. the cap space is a good thing. the more the better and the better chance of them signing lebron or some other big star.
Well turns out we've got the 19th pick from it. Thoughts?