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How good is Anthony Davis really? I think the hype has gone too far.

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I don't agree with how he

I don't agree with how he said it but I am kind of with igetbuckets99. He is similar to a Larry Sanders or Taj Gibson. I don't see this guard in a big mans body. I see Garnett potential on the defensive side of the ball. I really do. I think he will be a beast blocking shots and a guy that can switch out onto guards and that is great. Offensively, I am not sure he is more than a pick & roll or pick & pop player. I see maybe 16ppg in his prime. He may be a 16 & 11 player and that isn't a bust. I just don't thionk he is goimg to be Garnett and definately not Duncan.

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He was asked to play a limited role for a (NBA stacked college team)... When he gets to the NBA they will play around his strengths, he can handle the ball, shoot, pass and play defense... Coming out of college all Blake Griffin can do was dunk, hell all can do in the NBA is dunk but I see people on this site saying AD wont compare, give me a break... He has the work ethic and attitude to be great and he is very humble doing it... How is it that Clevland is willing to give up everything to get him??? Every Gm wants him??? Every scout says he is a cant miss??? But just the people on this site says he is overhyped, obviously a lot of you are opinionated non NBA talent evaluators... KG was skinnier than AD coming out of highschool, Hell Dwight Howard was frail and clumsy coming out but with effort, attitude and dedication in practice, YOU GET BETTER at your craft...

WE PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!!!

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He was asked to play a limited role for a (NBA stacked college team)... When he gets to the NBA they will play around his strengths, he can handle the ball, shoot, pass and play defense... Coming out of college all Blake Griffin can do was dunk, hell all can do in the NBA is dunk but I see people on this site saying AD wont compare, give me a break... He has the work ethic and attitude to be great and he is very humble doing it... How is it that Clevland is willing to give up everything to get him??? Every Gm wants him??? Every scout says he is a cant miss??? But just the people on this site says he is overhyped, obviously a lot of you are opinionated non NBA talent evaluators... KG was skinnier than AD coming out of highschool, Hell Dwight Howard was frail and clumsy coming out but with effort, attitude and dedication in practice, YOU GET BETTER at your craft...

WE PLAY TO WIN THE GAME!!!!

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Ad is not even close to KG at that age, come on

please, 1st lets just stop the KG thing . This is the Kentucky effect. The above mentioned- limted role- can also be looked at as a team so good/talented your weaknesses are disguised or atleast covered up. Nobody remebers how much of a beast Terrrence Jones was early his frosh season where he was more small forwardish because he moved into a - limited role. Giclchist didnt have to deal with clogged lanes in his limited role but he also didnt take many jumpers. Its a double edged sword.

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"best case is a better K.G (

"best case is a better K.G ( his handles nor jumper at the same stage was as good and he's never been known as a shot blocker)."

stopped reading right there.....

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"Coming out of college all

"Coming out of college all Blake Griffin can do was dunk, hell all can do in the NBA is dunk"

so you think Davis can dunk his way to 22ppg in his first two years in the league? After all, Davis did lead the nation in dunks didnt he? So he should easily be a 20 plus ppg scorer.....right?

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re:Griffin

Blake Griffin non dunking video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZB15o7E0o4

Mr Exclusive I would love to hear your thoughts on this.

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He will never be as strong as

He will never be as strong as Griffin. He can shoot better than him right now and is a better defender as well. Griffin is better offensively because his ability to get to the basket but in 3 or 4 years they will b very close to see who the best PF in the world is with Kevin Love in the discussion as well.

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It's kind of funny because a

It's kind of funny because a lot of people on this site didn't think Blake Griffin would come into the league and average the type of points he did.

There were tons of people on here saying Griffin would only average 12-15 points and that they didn't think he had superstar potential.

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I thought Blake would be a

I thought Blake would be a 1st option, but I never thought his athleticism would allow him to be as dominant as he has been. I just thought he'd be an All-Star at best. 20 and 10 (plus) his 1st 2 years? Didnt expect that whatsoever

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Griffin was surprisingly good

Griffin was surprisingly good especially considering he missed his entire first season with an injury. I don't really expect Davis to explode onto the scene like that but I think over a period of a couple years he could potentially become a better player. Defensively I don't think there is much of a question that he will be a force but offensively people are split. I think he will develop at a rapid pace and by his 4th season will be talked about as one of the best if not the best PF in the game.

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I thought the guy was an

I thought the guy was an absolute superstar coming out of OK, he just reminded me so much of Kemp. the first player to come around in a while to remind me of Reign Man. I was just a Blake Griffin fan, but it was likely bias because I loved his aggressive and sometimes reckless style of play. I didnt think his first year playing he would put up those numbers though.

I am biased against Davis, for the same reason, because I love great offense. I may be eating crow soon, but I dont think so. He looks like Camby....and thats not an insult. He does not in anyway shape or form remind me of KG though outside of the phyical stature at the same age. Nor do I see him as a guard in a big man's body that will be a perimeter player one day. He is a PF and likely to grow to play Center in the right situations.

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man there are always some

man there are always some worries about the guy who hasn't played nba game but he is amazing college player very very young and undeveloped and very very good kid who will only get better sure fire star, kinda like Derrick Rose of big men..some thought he wasn't on Beasley's level talent wise at all no who is better after than humble hard work??

even those crazy expetations of being the next KG isn't off at all i think if he can reach his ceiling(and he really can)

every single year there are some talks..Kyrie wasn't the next great pg by some..Blake was undersized overrated..Derrick wasn't clear number 1 at all..Dwight looked skinny and raw against Emeka..it happens

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First Anthony Davis can't

First Anthony Davis can't handle the ball like KG started at Small Forward a lot at the beginning of hos career next to Joe Smith. Secondly am I the only one who remembers Jeff Withey and Thomas Robinson held him to 6 points on 1-10 shooting. He will face Power Forwards and Centers much better than them in the league. And don't just say he had a bad shooting game, because if that's the case does he have a clutch problem? 1-10 in the NCAA championship game. I think he is going to be a DEFINITE game changer defensively, just don't think he's going to be KG or Tim Duncan, he won't be anything near Kwame Brown though. I don't think being Jermaine O'Neal or Marcus Camby is a bad thing, those were both good players who were the best players on their team at some point.

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^ I totally agree with those

^ I totally agree with those two comparisons. I just don't see how he's going to cover bigger PF's like Gasol ,Randolph, Aldrich, Love, or Griffin, he's going to get bullied.

And offensively he really doesn't have much. With his weight he won't be able to get positioning and he really has no go too move. Being compared to those two guys is a compliment but know why he's KG.

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Why are some of you above

Why are some of you above suggesting that Davis is only going to average 2 blocks a game in the NBA. He averaged 4.7 per game in college. Yes the players are tougher, but generally you don't see a huge drop off in blocked shots when you transition to the NBA. An NBA game is longer and has many more possessions per game due to shorter shot clock so it kind of balances out.

If he "just" gets 16 points (on 60% shooting), 10 rebounds and 3.5 blocks a game, he will be good enough to warrant the number one pick. If he develops and does more (likes steals and assists) he will be an All-Star. And if he can defend the low post then he will be one of the top centers/power forwards in the game. I don't think he needs a handle or a three point shot or anything else like that to become a star because of what he is going to bring on the defensive end.

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^ Hasheem Thabeet

^ Hasheem Thabeet

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Ha ha, well good answer to my

Ha ha, well good answer to my question. But even Thabeet blocked shots in the NBA. I just looked up his "per 36 minutes numbers" and he averages 3.0 for he career. And Thabeet wasn't as good at blocking shots as Davis. Thabeet "only" blocked 4.2 per game when he came out. And "only" 3.8 per game his freshman year. But good point. If Davis's other skills can't keep him on the court, then he won't have time to rack up the blocks. He needs to play at least 30 minutes a game. Frankly, I'm not worried that he won't get the start and the PT. So I'm pretty sure we can assume at least 3 blocks per game.

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now you guys may be overating his shotblocking just a tad. saying he was better shotblocker than Thabeet is not necessarily true just because he avg a half a block more per game. Thabeet was absolutely intimidating...you seem to forget how much help Davis had that forced a lot of shots into his "no-fly zone". Terrence Jones was a good shotblocker and defender....Teague and Lamb were good defenders.....and no need to mention MKG. A lot of times, the team defense just forced guys into no man's land.

Davis is a good shotblocker because he is long, quick off his feet, and has good instincts....but he is no Hakeem. I just wonder how Davis wouldve done at another school with not so much help. I cant help but think that he wouldve likely avg more points but I dont know if he wouldve racked up almost 5bpg, plus be the beneficiary of all those alley-oops because his other 5 teammates were all threats to score.

This is why I dont put total emphasis on college play. If Davis wouldve gone to Depaul, Barnes to Iowa State, and Drummond to say....WVU. This conversation could be going in a totally different direction right now.

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Yeah I agree with Davis being

Yeah I agree with Davis being overhyped. I mean, I would pick him #1, but getting these comparisons to past studs is absurd.

His jumpshot is weak. Thats why he's so hesitant to take it.

He has no post moves that are effective what so ever.

He played Center, has a Small Forward body, and will play Power Forward in the NBA.

Name one true power forward other than KG that's ever been an elite defender beyond shot blocking.

He isn't a great individual defender, watch the SEC tournament.

At Kentucky, he was never expected to hit big shots, or come through in the playoffs. Aren't we already hard on 3rd year Blake Griffin for having those issues? At least he actually was big time in college.

He won POTY, but even that was hype. Thomas Robinson was better than him, and more important to his team. All Davis was asked to do is block shots, play centerfield on defense, catch alley oops, get put backs, and run in transition.

He doesn't have a premier offensive game, he doesn't have a premier defensive game except being a weakside shot blocker.

He might be a really good version of Taj Gibson. Or a really good version of Serge Ibaka. Or Marcus Camby. But he has so much he must improve. Its not one or two things, its most of his offensive game. Defensively, he has to put on weight. I'd like him on the Bulls, or the Heat, or the Thunder, or the Spurs. Not sure I like him on a team that stunk last year, where expectations are going to be he's Tim Duncan. Very very lucky Charlotte didn't pick him. He can't carry a team. That's not his style, that's not his skill. He is a long, athletic defender.

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