How come everyone rates NJN > LAC for Free Agency?
How come everyone rates NJN > LAC for Free Agency? I don't get it. I mean sure new jersey is supposed to be moving to brooklyn in a couple of years but not only r they not really a new york team but they also were historically bad, most likely won't be winning the lottery due to lottery history for teams with the best odds, and they don't have franchise history to brag about. sure the clippers have crappy franchise history, but the nets aren't exactly much better and currently they are worse. plus the clippers have more talent, have better weather, are in a bigger market, have hollywood, plus other things NJ just doesn't have.
Because a high school team is better than the clippers..... and my mom could be a better gm than mike dunleavy.....
shows how much u know about the clippers...dunleavy is gone
just everyone is too blind to see it....they are one SF away from having solid starting line up...Star SF's like Lebron and Melo can make them down right nasty but the Clippers mystiq or lack of it is what will have them scrambling for Gay( they should not sign him though)maybe they become the sign and trade partner for someone losing a super star(Dirk???) He and Kaman would be nice...they could also Sign Dirk straight up and trade Griffen or Gordon for a top five pick??? get a SG/Sf to build with and go that route...But the Clippers wont get the # 1 pick and a chance at Lebron/Amare like the Nets will...dont get me wrong I still like the Clippers going forward...Baron, Gordon?/Griffen? Dirk and Kaman...I think they should make strong play for Dirk if he opts out...and try and get players for Gordon or Blake...I know Blake is untouchable...but you have to think about bigger picture...is Dirk better today and 3 years from now...YES
Get a group of young guys and build through the draft...you'll be fine
The Nets franchise history is better than the Clippers. 2 ABA championships in the 70s and 2 finals appearances (and 4 division titles) over the last 10 years isn't great but it's far better than what the Clippers have done.
I also wouldn't say that the Clippers have more talent at the moment. Brook Lopez, Devin Harris, Courtney Lee and Terrence Williams aren't neccesarily worse than Griffin, Gordon, Davis and Kaman esp when you factor in that the Nets get a top 4 selection in a draft which appears to have 4 prospects at the top (Wall, Turner, Cousins and Favors).
Donald Sterling also doesn't have the best reputation among league owners...
Why trade that nucleus
add a LeBron or Carmelo (more likely Carmelo) and you have a contender if you add the right role players
as for Jersey I would be a good spot for Bron and LAC would be okay for Melo
But he hasn't played a regular season game...He could be the Clippers Al Jefferson...you could trade him to Dallas for Dirk...add a Free Agent 2 or Three...draft guys that improve your depth and move into the new year a suprise contender ala Celtics...Tell me you wouldn't trade Blake for a Ring...
Dirk becomes KG-All star traded for young stud Blake=Big Al
Gordan and Pick(Aminu) could become Delonte and Green( they got Celtics R.Allen what can Gordan/Jordan and a top ten pick get you J.Johnson in a S and T...maybe...they'd pay him max right???)
and you could sign small forward like Gay for a mid max range deal...maybe not but a SF with MLE or one in future makes you scary good...Dirk and Kaman or Bust...make it happen
the Clippers has a stigma and not many people want to go there. Also NJ has enough for two max player and LAC does not.
The Clippers are not getting Lebron or Melo. That is a great dream for a Clippers fan but it is not happening
LOL When I saw the title I knew it was Clippers who created the post, not trying to clown..Just saying
Because the Clippers will always be the Lakers little sister.
The Clippers need to move and get their own city. They'll never be more liked than the Lakers and no star wants to go to the 2nd rate team in their city--especially one with Kobe on it.
griffin > jefferson
griffin in 3 years > dirk in 3 years
gordon + aminu > joe johnson's value
i prefer to have them do this:
pg: collison, blake
sg: gordon, warren
sf: rudy gay, butler
pf: griffin, smith
c: kaman, jordan
for Blake Griffen and Pick...would you do it as a Clippers fan or GM...Dirk hall of Famer...In his prime for a few more years...he and Kaman could be real force...Offense/Defense...Baron and Gordon try to copy Rondo and Allen and hopefully you sign Gay to play the role of Pierce...that team has 1 championship run in it right...
One and done maybe but they'd challenge with a vet or two right....
I'm a Clippers follower, but I think the Nets are a better option for quite a few reasons.
- Donald Sterling. He's one of the worst owners in all of sports. The Nets now have a Billionaire owner who is aggressive, exciting and willing to not only spend, but retain key players to win.
- Franchise history. The Nets aren't that great, but they've had more success than the Clippers. The Clippers are one of the worst franchises in all of sports. Poor record, bad ownership, bad coaching, freak injuries... It goes on and on.
- Bad contracts. The Nets don't have any. All of their key players, except Devin Harris, are in their rookie contracts. Baron Davis has a very bad contract.
- Cap space. The Nets are in a better position cap wise. They have every one of their key players under contract for next season (nine players) for a total of only $26,894,328 (they have a team option on Douglass-Roberts and a qualifying offer on Boone). The Nets will have quite a few million more than the Clippers to spend via free-agency. The Clippers have more uncertainty facing them this summer. Other than Davis, Kaman, Griffin, Gordon and Jordan... They have EVERYBODY coming off of the books (I'm sure they'll decline the qualifying offers on Mardy Collins and Bobby Brown). They'll have to renounce the rights to everyone of those players in order to have a shot at a max deal free-agent, which means IF they don't land a max deal free-agent... They could lose out on bringing back Drew Gooden, Steve Blake, Rasual Butler, Travis Outlaw and Craig Smith.
- Young talent. Blake Griffin, Eric Gordon, DeAndre Jordan and 2010 lottery pick vs Brook Lopez, Devin Harris, Yi Janlian, Terrence Williams, Courtney Lee, Chris Douglass-Roberts and 2010 top four pick. I like the Nets better, since Griffin is coming off of a knee injury and DeAndre Jordan is still very raw. I also like the thought of who New Jersey could land in this year's draft. Williams looked very good at the end of the season.
- Coaching. Neither team has a coach yet, but I think due to the Clippers' poor history and bad ownership, the Nets are a more attractive option.
The Clippers do have location, weather and a bigger market in their favor, but... I think those things above outweigh them.
Dirk retires a legend and Blake will have another surgery or two if he's unlucky like the franchise he plays for...I liked Griffen alot but a broken knee cap...come on take the legendary Dirk..pair him with Kaman and contend...I'd trade Gordon( a 6'3 SG for JJ in a heart beat even if it meant given up a top ten pick to do it...that scenario wouldn't allow for Gay but another FA with the MLE could be nice pickup...think J.Howard...
Butler hit the nail right on the head here. Great post.
The Nets are nothing special they have Brook Lopez and they don't even use him right.
A bunch of no names and Devin Harris won't get you much in free agency becaz your moving to Brooklyn in 2012.
This isn't the 50's or 60's when the Brooklyn Dodgers were great.
With their luck they'll get the 4th pick and lose out on Wall and Turner.
Nets are rebuilding in the long run and might be big player in the summer of 2011 and 2012.
I can see them signing Boozer then he'll get hurt again his history.
Clips haven't done anything outside of 2006, try having your potential great players stay healthy and winning 40 games first. Having the Lakers in the same building isn't a selling point.
The Nets at least in earlier years had an elite team with Kidd and company.
they have cap space too...
Just a couple thing that haven't been said. Nets Team Pres Rod Thorn is one of the smartest men in basketball, being one of the key decision makers in Chicago during their run, and combined with their new owner, have great people in two key positions. And also, the Nets market is bigger than the Clippers market. The Nets games are on the Yankees Entertainment and Sports Network (YES), which reaches a HUGE population from Pennsylvania into New England. Two, the NY/NJ/CT Metro Area is bigger by 7 million people. So, the Nets have a bigger market. Lastly, as was already said, no same-city team is more overshadowed by their counterparts than the Clippers are by the Lakers. Not the Jets, Mets, Angels (hell, the Angels and Dodgers seem to flip in popularity) White Sox, Man City, or anything else you can think of.