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Houston is crushing NY

Also Lin is outplaying Felton. It will only be a matter of time before people see that NY would have been better with Lin than Felton. Felton has more help than Lin had when he went Linsanity and Felton is not carrying them to wins.

Also Houston is young and still may get better, thanks to some of their draft picks that will eventually develop and wreck havoc.

To bad that one dude is tripping because despite his mental health, he could give Houston solid minutes down the road.


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felton is not carrying them

felton is not carrying them to wins??? well, he sure has helped... his job isn't to carry them to w's

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Yea, Knicks aren't playing that well with Felton as the PG. 18-7. But you're right, Felton is not carrying this team to wins, MVP candidate Carmelo Anthony is leading this team to the best record in the East.

Also, you do remember the 25 million dollar contract that Lin got? $15 in '15. You also realize how bad Lin is playing this year, and how bad he is in general. Under 40% FG, 31% from deep, only 6 assists with 3 TO. I wish Harden had not gone to Houston so we could really see how bad he is.

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...he definitely would be

...he definitely would be posting up way better numbers had harden not been traded to houston...he isnt a spot up shooter and this season has shown that...what tonights game has shown though is that when harden is off the court and mchale lets him play he is productive. you cant expect a penetrator to play well when he just passes the ball to harden after passing half court and just sits there in the corner or top of the key.

also to some extent the knicks have been carried by felton at times (talking to the other guy). especially the game against the heat when melo was out.

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Chris Copeland dropped 29

Chris Copeland dropped 29 today in less than 30 mins. Only seen him in garbage time but he looks like a really valuable energy guy off the bench, wouldn't be surprised to see him play 10-12 mins a night from now on given what he's showed us when given the opportunity.

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i was watching some of his

i was watching some of his preseason games where he would just light it up out of no where and i said to myself damn...if they gave him a chance he could give some good minutes for them. he can score quite effectively. thats what i like about these older rookies...they can produce right off the bat when given the chance. it seems like they just have an entirely different motivation that energizes them to give it their all thats diff from younger rookies only having to play a few years in college to earn an nba roster spot. jamario moon is one guy that pops up when i see these old rooks. haha on a side note...do you think prigioni and copeland get punked as rookies still? how funny is that....guys 25-28 punking a what 38 year old? LOl

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i was watching some of his

i was watching some of his preseason games where he would just light it up out of no where and i said to myself damn...if they gave him a chance he could give some good minutes for them. he can score quite effectively. thats what i like about these older rookies...they can produce right off the bat when given the chance. it seems like they just have an entirely different motivation that energizes them to give it their all thats diff from younger rookies only having to play a few years in college to earn an nba roster spot. jamario moon is one guy that pops up when i see these old rooks. haha on a side note...do you think prigioni and copeland get punked as rookies still? how funny is that....guys 25-28 punking a what 38 year old? LOl

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Hes a good scorer off the

Hes a good scorer off the bench.

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Yeah, total crushing. But no

Yeah, total crushing. But no Melo so Knicks have an excuse. Lin was fastest guy on the court and could take Knicks guards to the hole at will. Felton hit some jumpers off pull ups to start the game and Knicks kept it close until the third quarter. But Houston always looked like they were about to explode and pull away. .

Guys throwing stats out there about how Felton is better than Lin need to recognize that Felton is also shooting a pretty lame 41%. And there isn't much chance of Felton bringing that up much higher than that any time soon. And while Lin made a name for himself scoring, he also fills the stat sheet with rebounds, steals and even nearly a block a game. He's just an athlete out there as well as being a clever passer. I feel like he is clearly better than Felton, though it is close right now. But I'm assuming Lin at 24 is still improving, especially when you talk about the jump from Ivy league to NBA. So I don't expect the two to be comparable next year or the third year of Lin's contract. Though Lin might look awfully expensive in that third year, still I think this is going to work out for the Rockets. They are the youngest team in the league and they are going to make the playoffs in the West. Only OKC and the Heat are better prepared for the next three years than the Rockets. They just need to get better in the normal way that players get better with experience and they will be a heck of a team.

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New York would make enough

New York would make enough money off of Lin outside of the regular stuff it would cover Lin's money difference. Also since when are NYK all about saving money. They gave more money away to some bums but can't pay a star in the making. Come on now seriously. I hope Lin's team beat NY every time they meet.

Also Kidd has done more for the Knicks then Felton has. Also Lin has won games without Melo, Amare last year. Felton takes a lot of shot and shoot poorly but I guess if you take enough you put up points.
Like someone said if Lin did not have to try to fit in with Harden, you would see better numbers plus unlike Felton, Lin is coming off a knee injury and did not have the offseason he could have while Felton had time to work off that extra weight he gained with the Portland this summer. This may be the best Felton can do and his stats are comparable to Lin playing average.

Knick are a deep team with like 3 or 4 point guards so don't give Felton all the credit.

I would take Kidd as their true point guard over him.

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Do you know how the whole

Do you know how the whole salary cap system works?? If the knicks have 3 or 4 pgs, why would they overpay one? I think everyone is in agreement Lin was overpayed..

Anyways, I'm sure I won't change your opinion. Knicks are gonna be a top 4 seed, while Houston will fight to make the playoffs. Enough said right there.

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I was at the game, and I just

I was at the game, and I just want to say, any team that turns the ball over a lot, misses its first 7 free throws, and shoots a miserable 35% from the field and 20% from three in the first half will struggle. The ball movement was terrible, shot selection was terrible, most possession were terrible, and the Knicks forgot how the Rockets push tempo even off makes, and that when Lin has the ball in his left hand, he will switch right. No ones shot was falling, and the Knicks were missing a ton of players.

Still, hats of to the Rockets for the win.

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Damn, did Coopeland have

Damn, did Coopeland have himself a game? Dropping 28? More shocked by that.. Also This game doesn't count guys Melo didn't play. :P

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Lin missing wide open 3s

Lin missing wide open 3s shows he's nothing special and he had an air ball on one too.

Felton didn't play awful but this team can't win w/out Melo on a consistent basis esp. with Amare, Shumpert and Sheed out.

Team are getting up to play the Knicks you saw it the other day when the Cavs almost won.

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Lin won 4 games last year

Lin won 4 games last year w/out Mello and Amare against the Wolves, Lakers, Wizards and Jazz so 2 lottery teams, an 8th seed and the Lakers. Don't forget he had Shumpert for those games.

4 wins w/out Mello and Amare good luck keeping that up over a long period of time.

The Rockets are a .500 team because of Harden playing at a high level not Lin.
Lin doesn't close games for a reason.

Not sure what people think about Lin in terms of financial aspects the Garden is always sold out. Linsanity was a 1 time thing and even late in the year it started to die down. The Knicks are a big story w/out him this year. Your kidding yourself if you think he's worth that tax they'd have to pay. I'd like to see what road attendance the Rockets are getting now compared to the Knicks last year during Linsanity.

Yeah the Knicks have blown a lot of money in the past because of Isiah but the past few years they've been pretty careful and not thrown money around. Outside of Amare, Novak and Camby who else is overpaid.

In 2 years the Rockets will have 3 players making 45 mill. and with Scola being amnestied they are up to 51 mill in cap space committed already. They were better off keeping Lowry or paying Dragic.

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Road attendance doesn't

Road attendance doesn't matter to teams as the Gate money goes to the Home team. But I am sure that the Rockets are drawing more fans at home and on the road because of Lin and Harden and because the team is getting some wins.

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Lin won 4 games last year

Lin won 4 games last year w/out Mello and Amare against the Wolves, Lakers, Wizards and Jazz so 2 lottery teams, an 8th seed and the Lakers. Don't forget he had Shumpert for those games.

4 wins w/out Mello and Amare good luck keeping that up over a long period of time.

The Rockets are a .500 team because of Harden playing at a high level not Lin.
Lin doesn't close games for a reason.

Not sure what people think about Lin in terms of financial aspects the Garden is always sold out. Linsanity was a 1 time thing and even late in the year it started to die down. The Knicks are a big story w/out him this year. Your kidding yourself if you think he's worth that tax they'd have to pay. I'd like to see what road attendance the Rockets are getting now compared to the Knicks last year during Linsanity.

Yeah the Knicks have blown a lot of money in the past because of Isiah but the past few years they've been pretty careful and not thrown money around. Outside of Amare, Novak and Camby who else is overpaid.

In 2 years the Rockets will have 3 players making 45 mill. and with Scola being amnestied they are up to 51 mill in cap space committed already. They were better off keeping Lowry or paying Dragic.

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Lin is basically a bit better

Lin is basically a bit better than Felton right now and it won't be close by the end of the year once Lin is fully healed. And it definitely won't be close three years from now as Lin enters his prime. You have to look at things like how Lin rebounds from the PG spot and how he is a league leader in steals. He is just much more athletic than Felton and he uses that speed all over the court.

The Rockets are set. The Asik and Lin contracts give them one tough year when both those guys are making $15 million. But two cheap years before that where they can save up money. And as of right now Asik looks like a good starting Center and Lin looks like an average starting PG. And both are young and look like they have serious potential. There are lots of big contracts in the league going to guys who really can't play at all. So nobody should be thinking the rockets did something stupid with giving those contracts. If anything, the Rockets are kicking themselves that they didn't make them four year contracts.

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I'm sorry... Lin is not a

I'm sorry... Lin is not a better player right now. Felton is a better ball handler, passer and three point shooter. Lin is stronger bigger and a more creative passer (still prone to throwing it right at the defender.). He had a better game. But he hasnt played substantially better than Randy Foye, E'Twaan Moore, or Jarret Jack.

You cant "save up money" for the salary cap either.

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@ TallmanNYC, it is good that

@ TallmanNYC, it is good that someone sees things in perspective.

I have no issues with the Knicks other than how they did Lin. It was unprofessional how they bashed him for doing exactly what they told him to do. It is not Lin's fault that Houston dropped that large contract. also when rookie gets paid off of potential, how as Lin's contract bad when his potential makes that contract small. You have other starting point guards making more than Lin.

Another thing is Houston will not be hurt by Lin's contract that much, only the team that matches would have been hurt. Houston has the right to restructure contract.

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Recovery from that type of

Recovery from that type of knee surgery doesn't take that long.

People who run and are a lot older than Lin have recovered in less time and are back to running miles a day.

8 months since the surgery he should've healed, maybe this is why they haven't played him much.

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Rockets 22nd in home

Rockets 22nd in home attendance 2nd in road attendance this year.
Last year Rockets 22nd in home attendance and 9th in road attendance.

Surprising the Rockets had such a high road attendance avg. last year who wanted to see them last year.

Linsanity has bought in 152 more fans per game so far this year for the Rockets.

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Those numbers have absolutely nothing to do with that west conference champion guy with the beard then?

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