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  • #34256
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    Golden State Warriors guard Stephen Curry and Los Angeles Clippers guard Eric Gordon are the two players New Orleans has pursued the hardest in the Hornets’ fast-moving search for a workable Chris Paul trade, according to sources close to the talks.

     

    But the Hornets continue to meet with resistance from the Warriors and the Clippers on Curry and Gordon, sources told ESPN.com, because both teams are reluctant to part with their young backcourt cornerstones with no assurance from Paul that he will stay beyond this season.

     

     

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    Sources said that the Hornets have actually been trying to convince the Warriors to part with Curry since before last season’s trade deadline in February. But the Warriors could only stomach the inclusion of Curry if they knew Paul would extend his contract as part of the trade or at least commit to invoking his option for the 2012-13 season. According to sources, Golden State has received no such promises.

     

    The Clippers, meanwhile, have been aggressive in their pursuit of Paul, but sources told ESPNLosAngeles.com’s Ramona Shelburne that neither Gordon nor restricted free agent centerDeAndre Jordan have been offered to New Orleans.

     

    Said one source close to the situation of Gordon’s inclusion: "That’s a deal-breaker (for the Clippers)."

     

    Shelburne reported that the Clippers are not pushing as hard as uber-aggressive teams like theBoston Celtics and Houston Rockets because they believe they are set up to win in the short and long term if they can re-sign Jordan and extend Gordon this month, re-sign Blake Griffin to an extension in the summer and also upgrade at the small forward position either through free agency (Caron Butler is their top target) or with Minnesota’s unprotected first-round pick in 2012.

     

    The players that the Clippers have made available to the Hornets, sources say, include centerChris Kaman and youngsters Eric Bledsoe and Al-Farouq Aminu. Yet it’s believed that the Hornets will continue to seek out more offers and urge interested teams to try to recruit third- and four-team facilitators to make the trade offers more attractive.

     

    ESPN.com reported Monday that in addition to the Warriors and Clippers — New Orleans’ preferred trade partners — at least three teams have told the Hornets that they’re willing to trade for Paul without any assurance that he’ll extend his contract or re-sign next summer. They are the Celtics, Rockets and Dallas Mavericks, with Boston widely considered to be the strongest bidder in that group despite what sources describe as the Hornets’ lukewarm interest to date in the primary players offered by the Celtics: All-Star guard Rajon Rondo and forward Jeff Green.

     

     

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    The Los Angeles Lakers, sources said, also remain in the Paul hunt even though they also continue to be regarded as the top trade suitor for Orlando Magic centerDwight Howard. The Lakers’ intent to chase both superstars generated considerable skepticism from rival teams, given that center Andrew Bynum ranks as the Lakers’ only highly coveted young trade asset. However, one source told ESPN.com late Tuesday that the Hornets have not yet ruled out accepting a trade package headlined by Pau Gasol. That would theoretically free up L.A. to build an offer for Howard around Bynum and a package for Paul around Gasol, although it remains unclear how the Lakers could make two separate offers sufficiently attractive to pull off what would rank as a tremendous trade haul.

     

    The Hornets have reservations about both players, sources say, related to Bynum’s injury history and Gasol’s major struggles in a second-round sweep by Dallas last spring at age 31. But as ESPN.com reported Monday, there is also rising sentiment within the organization to trade Paul before the 2011-12 season even starts because he hasn’t a signed a contract extension.

     

    Paul and Hornets general manager Dell Demps did have their expected meeting Monday at the team’s practice facility. The tone of the talk was amicable, sources said, but Paul did not tell the Hornets that he is prepared to sign an extension before the regular season opens Christmas Day, which only increases the likelihood that the Hornets will deal the star guard this month.

     

    That, of course, is contingent upon finding a palatable deal, but sources say that the Hornets are determined to avoid the soap opera that engulfed the Denver Nuggets for much of last season when Carmelo Anthony‘s standoff dragged on until February’s trade-deadline deal that sent Anthony to the New York Knicks in an extend-and-trade.

     

    It has long been assumed around the league that keeping Paul made the league-owned Hornets more attractive to prospective buyers, but sources said Monday that the Hornets believe that they will be more appealing to potential suitors if they can stabilize the organization by bringing a resolution to the Paul saga as soon as possible.

     

    Sources say that Paul has known for weeks that the Knicks, his No. 1 preferred destination to join Anthony and Amare Stoudemire, do not have the leftover trade assets after the Anthony deal to join the bidding. The Magic likewise appear to lack the requisite assets to make a suitable offer for Paul, who has privately expressed great interest in teaming up with Howard.

     

    New York and Los Angeles are widely regarded as Paul’s top two landing spots, in that order, but that hasn’t stopped the Celtics from making perhaps the hardest push for a Paul deal. Although sources say Paul continues to express no interest in a long-term stay in Boston, Celtics front-office chief Danny Ainge is apparently convinced that trading for Paul now to make one more title run with the aging star trio of Paul PierceKevin Garnett and Ray Allen is a no-brainer gamble. With the contracts of Garnett and Allen expiring at season’s end, Boston would have sufficient salary-cap space to not only retain Paul but also pursue a second young superstar to play with him.

     

    Sources confirmed a Yahoo! Sports report from earlier Tuesday that Paul has let it be known that signing free-agent center Tyson Chandler would increase his chances of re-signing with any team that trades for him.

     

    The Warriors, though, have been pursuing Chandler independent of the Paul talks since free-agent negotiations began last week and regard him as their No. 1 roster target for the new season. The Clippers, meanwhile, have shown no inclination that they plan to pursue Chandler, preferring to focus on re-signing Jordan at a lesser price and with Kaman still on the books.

     

    One source familiar with the Clippers’ thinking added that L.A., unlike the neighboring Lakers, has yet to have any substantive discussions with the Magic about Howard.

    Marc Stein is a senior NBA writer for ESPN.com. Chris Broussard covers the NBA for ESPN The Magazine.


    Very Interesting update.  Everyone was saying Curry would be traded without assurance from Paul, apparently that was just a rumor.  I’m guessing it was started from within the Hornets front office to try and make the Clippers increase their offer.
     
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  • #612307
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    I really don’t understand why the Hornets are being so damn greedy, NO ONE OWNS THE TEAM… I understand getting the best you can out of a deal but sometimes we as people overvalue a lot of things, and this is one of em…  You have to take some loses to move ahead sometimes… They got rid of Tyson Chandler to save money, now they trying to milk this CP3 thing out for everything… Get the best deal from teams he would want to go to and call it a day… They at least owe him that… The same thing happened with KG and LOOK the Wolves have some young talent on their roster from it… Not to mention again NO ONE OWNS THE TEAM… Stern talking he wants parity in the league but he has majority of the televised games with big market teams… CP need to go to a winning team and the Hornets need to provide that for him… Rockets and GS?  Clippers could semi be thrown in there too if they don’t get D12 too…  As a competitor CP has to know they won’t beat the Heat without 2 other superstars…

    And where is OKC?  Shouldn’t they be trying to offer up Westbrook right now?  N maybe going after D12?

     

     

     

     

     

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     If I’m the Clippers I’m not giving up Gordon and Jordan for Paul.  

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  • #612322
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    This isn’t the CP3 from 2007-08 and 2008-09. He tore a LARGE portion of his meniscus… He’s not going to be the same. That’s a concern heading forward.

    As I’ve been saying though… IF the Clippers trade for Paul, Gordon and Jordan won’t be included.

    Kaman and his expiring deal, Bledsoe, Aminu and the Minny’s unprotected first round pick is enough. Not saying that Paul isn’t worth more than that, but he’s going to leave the Hornets anyway. Would you pay a high price for something you know that is going to be on sale or just completely thrown out in a few months?

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  • #612323
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    "Stern talking he wants parity in the league but he has majority of the televised games with big market teams."

    This right here!!!

    I just hear, see and smell a contradicting message. They take all of this money from the players and do all of these system changes in the name of competitive balance, BUT then only televise the BIG MARKET teams. The Lakers will be on ABC like a billion times.

    It just doesn’t make any sense. A lot of the changes they’ve made only affects the big interest bringers of the league. Just doesn’t make sense to me.

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  • #612324
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     I think one of the problems is that CP3 will only agree to an extension with the Knicks, but the Hornets (owned by the NBA) don’t want to be part of a trade that creates another Big 3 super team. Stern knows that won’t look good. Though, I believe, Stern would like nothing more than to have a NYC contender for the first time in more than a decade. 

    The small market teams would hate it though because they know that the Knicks can role out garbage with huge contracts and still sell out MSG and make money. 

    So we are stuck with CP3 telling teams he won’t extend and the Knicks not being able to offer anything that would look like it was the best deal on the table. But the pressure to get something will increase as we get closer to the trade deadline, so something will get done somehow. 

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  • #612328
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    I think at the end paul will accept signing an extension with another team (or with the hornets and accepting a S&T with another team) cause he would lose money signing in NY (on his contract only, not talking about other incomes) and it seems so difficult for the knicks to land him. http://blogs.hoopshype.com/blogs/tolnick/2011/12/06/how-to-land-chris-paul/ 

    warriors clippers lakers…. whatever…. after all what is important is the hornets would accept a "fair" deal sending an acceptable message to the other small market teams : players can’t force you to accept a garbage deal and …. this lockout wasn’t totally useless.

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  • #612334
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    The Boston idea is an interesting one maybe give up Rondo for one more run at the title with the ageing trio and CP3 and if NOH got Rondo on a longer term deal then that may be a good building point for them going forward. Boston effectively have one more shot at the title before CP3, KG and Ray Allen all expire then if CP3 did decide to walk, Boston have loads of cap space and could chase D-Will, Dwight Howard if CP3 did move on to say the Knicks. But if Boston did win the title then could anyone really see CP3 walking away when they could maybe get another young FA in and then resign the vets for lesser money.

    Boston has picks due from the Clippers and the Thunder, the rights to Jeff Green so they could easily offer NOH a nice sweetner if CP3 signed an extension first. Also if NOH wanted to move Okafor’s longer deal then maybe Ray Allen could be traded to NOH along with sum cash. NOH buy out Ray Allen and save the last two years on Okafor’s deal and once Ray clears waivers he goes back to Boston for a nominal salary.

     

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  • #612433
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    It seems to me that between Jordan, Gordon, Kaman, Aminu, Bledsoe and their 2012 1st plus Minnesota’s 2012 1st that the Clips have enough pieces to get Paul AND Howard.

     

    To NO: Gordon, Kaman

    To Clips: Paul

     

    To Orlando: Jordan, Bledsoe, Aminu, Minny 1st

    To Clips: Howard

     

    Would be so sick.

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