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Henson Hitting the Gym

I read this about John Henson today. Given his flashes last year, I'd say this is a great sign for him next season. I knew Henson had some serious upside with all that length and that soft 10 footer, but I was even a little surprised about how well he played as a rookie. A 6'11'' 235 lb guy with that 9'4'' standing reach is going to be even better on the boards ( he was already 12.9 rpg per 36 as a rookie). He's come a long way since he was a 185 lb freshman in college.

Henson's new physique
June, 13, 2013
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By Joe Kaiser | ESPN.com
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It was a big question regarding John Henson and his future in the NBA: Would the former North Carolina star be able to bulk up and add weight to his skinny frame? Already, we may have our answer.

Gery Woelfel of the Journal Times tweets today: "He isn't the Incredible Hulk but John Henson has added nearly 15 pounds since end of season."

Listed at 6-foot-11, 220 pounds last season, a bigger and stronger Henson is good news for the Bucks. It shows his commitment. It shows that he's able to gain weight. And it figures to make him more capable of handling the interior battles in NBA frontcourts over the course of a long 82-game season.

Larry Sanders, Ersan Ilyasova and Henson give the Bucks an encouraging trio of young big men to build around, and with a greater opportunity for playing time next season we believe Henson could be one of the league's breakout players.


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Really?

Larry Sanders, Ersan Ilyasova and Henson give the Bucks an "ENCOURAGING" trio of young big men to build around

Outside of Sanders, I see those being role players.

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I dunno, man. Llyasova was 17

I dunno, man. Llyasova was 17 ppg 9 rpg 49/45/86 post All-Star break for a team that squeaked in the playoffs. He's also 26. I'd say that's pretty encouraging. Henson also showed some real flashes and posted some big games. I'd say a team with two super long shot blocking defenders under 25 and a 26 year old faceup threat all three being over 6'10'' that's a luxury many teams would love to have.

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I agree with but Ersan's age

I agree with but Ersan's age is is highly questionable.

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Joe, not to threadjack, but

Joe, not to threadjack, but what are your thoughts on Nogueira? Everybody accepted Henson and Davis as PFs but Bebe is pigeonholed as a center 3 years away from contributing in the nba. Really not sure why he cant be a PF, and he compares favorably from a physical standpoint. Probably softer touch too.
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College ball is definately my

College ball is definately my strength as I don't watch a ton of international ball, but from what I've seen he plays like a 5 more than Henson or Davis. Those two guys could face up from 10-15 feet and put the ball on the floor a little bit. From what I've seen of Bebe he's yet to show that face up game, and got most of his points off offensive rebounds and dump offs ( again, I've only seen him a couple times in game situations ).

When Henson hit the draft he had a nice 10 footer and a decent 12-15 footer and some solid footwork off spins and such and well all know about Davis' remedial guard skills left behind from a bygone era ( when he was 6'2'', haha ).

To me, Bebe just seems like a very very long guy who is nimble enough to change directions and someone who could be a great weak side shot blocker. His standing reach is only 1'' shorter than Gobert. I think he needs to play the C, but you're probably right that he could play some PF against bigger guys, I just it'd be really easy to put a face up 4 on him and render him much less effective by drawing him away from the bucket or putting a PF with some ball skills who could drive around him 15 feet away from the bucket.

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Plus

both Sanders and Henson are on rookie deals. I would be a little less encouraged by Llyasova, not because of him as a player but because of what they will be paying him over the next few years.

Sanders:

2012-13: $1,991,760.
2013-14: $3,053,368.
2014-15: $4,268,608 {Qualifying Offer}.

Henson:

2012-13: $1,823,280.
2013-14: $1,905,360.
2014-15: $1,967,320 {Team Option}.
2015-16: $2,943,221 {Team Option}.
2016-17: $4,094,000 {Qualifying Offer}.

Llyasova:

2012-13: $7,900,000.
2013-14: $7,900,000.
2014-15: $7,900,000.
2015-16: $7,900,000.
2016-17: $8,400,000.
2017-18: UFA.

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but a stretch 4 who can shoot

but a stretch 4 who can shoot 3s can still be an asset, Llyasova has skills that the other 2 don't have

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Ersan is definitely a

Ersan is definitely a compliment to Sanders and Henson. Let these guys develop, build chemistry together. They have talent and aren't bad players at all. they can sign a 4th big man who can be a go to scorer. David West would be great for them.

Bucks just need a stronger back court.

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Concern with Henson gaining weight

My main concern with Henson putting 20 lbs on his skinny frame would be if it diminishes his mobility at all. I posted a while back that I think Bargnani's weight gain really took away from the skills he was drafted for originally as it slowed him down.

While I realize guys like this need to get stronger to bang down on the block, I think a big part of their games as long athletic quick players can often be altered for the worse if it slows them down too much or takes away some of their vertical game.

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Drew Gooden is the poster boy

Drew Gooden is the poster boy for NBA weight gain gone wrong, so it definitely happens, but for rail thin guys like Hendin and KD it is likely to make them more explosive. Look at KD's athletic ability now compared to what it was in college. It's noticeably better and for a guy like Henson who is of a similar build, I suspect you'll see a more mobile, more explosive player @ 235. Bargs is well over 250 now, there is a happy median and I think Henson at 235/240 is right there.

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Nah I think that goes to

Nah I think that goes to Boris Diaw lol

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That's cute, guys.

http://www.nypost.com/rw/nypost/2010/10/15/news/photos_stories/eddy_curry--300x300.jpg

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I hope you guys see that in

I hope you guys see that in the context weight gain obviously means muscle mass?
It's not like Boris Diaw is out there looking like a body builder.

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I don't think there's any

I don't think there's any confusion. Drew Gooden came in at 215 as a SF/PF combo and hit the weights to "bang with PF's" It got a little out of control. Boris Diaw came in at 203 and was asked to do the same thing for the same reasons. Now he's pushing 300 lbs. Gaining 100 lbs like Diaw or 60 lbs like Gooden has completely effected their once nimble and quick first steps and other aspects of their games. If you would said when they were rookies that they'd both be playing center by the time they were 30, I think you'd have a lot of raised eyebrows.

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Diaw came into the league at

Diaw came into the league at 18 unlike 22 for Henson. Diaw also is naturally athletic as hell while Henson is average at best. Henson would barely able to move at 260, doesn't have the frame or natural athleticism to handle it.

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Not comparing the two. Just

Not comparing the two. Just elaborating the concept of weight gain gone wrong, for another poster.

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Durant's improved athleticism

Durant's improved athleticism makes me think 18 y.o. Giannis can improve significantly in that regard. His older brother has a 40+ inch vert, and while Giannis wont get there, he's the youngest player in the draft and just had a 3-4 inch growth spurt that may still be ongoing. Durant kept growing his freshman year at texas.

Man, Giannis could be a 6'11, 7'5'' wingspan, 230 pound point guard version of Jeff Green.

I think he could go top 10 or higher very easily, and end up the best player in this class. Easy.

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Ersan Ilyasova is one of the

Ersan Ilyasova is one of the most underrated players in the NBA. Milwaukee last year was a terrible team for a player with his offensive skillset to be on. Jennings and Ellis are both shoot first gaurds which immediately limits good touches for anybody on the team without above average ballhandling skills. Also Milwaukees big man rotation was extremely inconsistent this year with Henson, Sanders, Dalembert, Ilyasova, and Mbah a Moute all sharing starts, switching roles, swapping playing time and not being able to establish a healthy team rolelist/pecking order.

Henson definitely displayed an intriguing skillset last year and if he added some muscle like stated he can be a true beast out east. A Sanders, Henson, Mbah A Moute, and Ilyasova is an extremely well rounded fastbreak smallball group to build around for Milwaukee

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I can see Henson making

I can see Henson making plenty of all star games, starting in 14-15.

KG, Duncan, Stoudemire, Chandler, PGasol, a lot of great bigs and fan favorites are on the downswing.

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