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Heat On Full Blast! Most Overhyped Team Ever- Stop The Nonesense

Out of respect for the site I said nonesense instead of dickriding in the original post...Stop the dickriding. Im not a Heat hater, lets get that out of the way. I hate on Bosh sure, but Dwayne Wade and Lebron James are tremendous players. Miami has a good not great Head Coach Erik Spoelstra, and a great list of veteran roleplayers including Mike Bibby, Erick Dampier, Mike Miller, Zydrunas Ilgauskas, Joel Anthony, Eddie House. Riley did a great job building this team, and I even thought Lebron James was the best player in the league until tonight (more on that later). Lets just get something straight, they arent the best team in the league, they arent a Top 5 team, and they are just barely a Top 10 team in the league. One injury to their Big 3 they are as helpless as a sprinter with no legs. We need to stop the nonsense and kill all the hype around this team.

I have an article with quotes from tonights loss against Chicago. I found some of these comments rather interesting, and they helped focus my perception on this team.

I also have some interesting stats from a post that is incomplete (relating to the NBA Playoffs).They will compare Miami to the other elite teams in the NBA.

_________COMMENTS OF THE NIGHT________
DWAYNE WADE
“The Miami Heat are exactly what everyone wanted, losing games,” Wade said. “The world is better now because the Heat is losing.”

What is wrong with that boy dwaynes mind, his mother needs to slap some sense into him and quick. he cant really think the world cares that much about him. Youre just a sideshow, a bit of amusement... cocky &$#%#&@!.

LEBRON JAMES
“I told my team, I’m not going to continue to fail late in games,” James said. “I put a lot of blame on myself tonight. I told the guys that I just keep failing them late in games and I won’t continue to do that.”

I promise he is not the best basketball player in the league. After hearing comments like that it is impossible to say he is the best. Until he fixes that fragile mindset and lack of confidence he is not the best. Chris Bosh is rubbing off on him...What I think the best player in the league would do is look his teammates in the eye, tell them they can count on you to lead them to victory, and hit the shots that matter in securing a win. He did the opposite, he ran away from the challenge. I dont wannna read anyone on this site say he is the best in the league until that issue gets adressed or Im giving that person a negative.

ERIK SPOELSTRA“One of these days, we will break through,” Spoelstra said.

Because thats what the great coaches do...Championship calibur coaches wait for their team to "break through" as long as it happens "one of these days". Spoelstra is a very good coach, but I think he bit off a bit more then he could chew. Coaching James, Wade, Bosh and about 10 veteran players with accomplished resumes is very difficult. Not any coach in the NBA could do it, and he has done a great job considering how difficult it really is, but it sounds like he is saying hes done all he can and now its up to the players...Not what you wanna hear from your coach/leader.

________INTERESTING STATS_________

MIAMI HEAT

Record Against .500 Teams- 10 Wins, 17 Losses

Record Against Teams Higher in Standings- 1 Win, 9 Losses

Record In Games Decided By 5 Or Less Points- 4 Wins, 13 Losses

CHICAGO BULLS

Record Against .500 Teams- 17 Wins, 11 Losses

Record Against Teams Higher in Standings- 4 Wins, 3 Losses

Record In Games Decided By 5 Or Less Points- 12 Wins, 8 Losses

BOSTON CELTICS

Record Against .500 Teams- 22 Wins, 9 Losses

Record Against Teams Higher in Standings- 1 Win

Record In Games Decided By 5 Or Less Points- 17 Wins, 6-Losses


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“I told my team,

“I told my team, I’m not going to continue to fail late in games,” James said. “I put a lot of blame on myself tonight. I told the guys that I just keep failing them late in games and I won’t continue to do that.”

This is why Wade took the last shot tonight. Lebron is sick of failing...

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If Lebron James isn't the

If Lebron James isn't the best player in the league, then who is?

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Why does the league need a

Why does the league need a best player? We dont have a best PG. Idc what anyone wants to try and tell me it is not Lebron. Someone who is scared of taking the final shot in the game is not the best.

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Lebron is the best player

Lebron is the best player imo, not the best closer though.

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I read a post elsewhere that

I read a post elsewhere that said that they would rather have the ball in Wade's hands at the end of the game because he has that killer instinct, that extra gear that he turns to when the game is on the line. Sure Lebron is one hell of a player but he does not have the "it" that Wade has. And if you don't have it, you won't develop it over time. Too much hype, too high of expectations. What this team needs is another year to develop the chemistry needed to win like what Boston and the Thunder have. OhCanada I couldn't agree more. If James doesn't want that responsibility to take that shot or if he's in that mindset of doubting himself, he is nowhere near the best. Kobe is fearless in that sense. IMO he's the best there is right now.

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Basketball Is a Team Game

I've been around basketball all my life, and although a lot has changed about the game, one thing hasn't, it's still a TEAM game. Miami is not a team!

Another constant in basketball is the need for one team leader and a great PG who controls and directs the aforementioned team. Miami doesn't have that, they are leaderless and clueless coming down the stretch.

Before the season started I predicted that LeBron and Dwayne Wade would not be able to play together at the end of a game. They are both fantastic players who need control of the ball and to be the man during crunch time. You cannot have two maestros running a symphony orchestra.

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What would you rather Lebron

What would you rather Lebron say in that situation?

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Under 10 seconds to go, and

Under 10 seconds to go, and the Heat within at least 3 points, James, Wade and Bosh are...wait for it...1 for 18 on the season.

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Im wouldnt doubt it if it

Im wouldnt doubt it if it were Bosh who was that lone 1 of the 18 shots made.

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kobe

kobe is the best player in the league u dont see him whining when the lakers lost a few in a row and hell never back down from taking the big shot ever imo a player cant be considered the best when they cant finish a game by making the last shot and lebron cant do that

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Are you not just exacerbating.....

The hype by constantly posting how overhyped they are? I guess you are trying to make a point about how the Bulls are better, and yes, the Heat have been slightly underwhelming, but I still think they are a team we want to watch, win or lose. They might not be as good as we all thought they might be, but have you felt like the "Big 3" have really underachieved? Even with Chris Bosh, he has had some awful games, but he is putting up numbers and beating his match-up consistently. Yes, their failure to close games is mind boggling, but if they get in these situations in the play-offs, do you think this will happen over and over again? Do you think that teams will be like, "Oh, it's ok, we are playing against Dwyane Wade and LeBron James, their is no way they beat us in the closing seconds." They have yet to show it, but percentages balance out usually, and it is better that this happening now so that they will be truly prepared.

People keep saying that the Celtics/Magic/Bulls all are teams that you would not want to play in the play-offs. So, the Heat are a team you want to play in the play-offs? You can keep hating on Chris Bosh, even though he is nowhere as bad or soft as you make him out to be, but Dwyane Wade and LeBron James have done big things in the play-offs before. Dwyane Wade just so happened to lead a team full of role players and Shaq to a championship in his third year in the league. The Heat will match-up well with just about any team defensively, and are not a likely team to be killed on the boards, Chicago is the only team in the East I see doing that. Even so, the fact that the Heat are in close games with these teams, if I were a fan of the other team I would not want to play a team like that. San Antonio killed them, but for the most part the Heat do a solid job of sticking with teams. They just need that ability to play up tempo throughout the game, that they have yet to show, but we know exists.

When the Heat won the title in 2006, they were 52-30 on the season. Wade and Shaq had made a deep play-off run the year before, and they traded for some incredibly key role guys, like Antoine Walker, Jason Williams and James Posey. The league has changed incredibly since than, but the Heat have LeBron James and Chris Bosh, who are both more productive players than Shaq and Walker were back than. They have struggled in getting production from the other spots, but it has been a roller coaster of ingraining new players and injury. Yes, if one of the Big 3 gets injured, they might struggle, but they have not been hurt severely and when they are playing together they have the ability to play with any team in the league. It is easy to call them overhyped or point to their downfalls right now, but they are still a team that I am pretty sure no one is eager to face in the play-offs. They might not be afraid of them, but in the NBA no one is afraid to face anybody. Any team that had this collection of players was going to receive considerable hype, and while they have not lived up to it, I think it is crazy to completely count them out. Personally, I think people are counting them out far too early. This team is 43-20, and while they have sucked in the eyes of most fans, they show flashes of being a potentially dominant team. You have LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, and you want to blow up the team after one year? Take it easy. Wilt Chamberlain, Elgin Baylor and Jerry West never won a title when they all played together, but would you guys have traded any of them? Be happy they are losing now, but do not be surprised if this is not a continuing trend come the next few years.

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was whining and the one asking for trades wen his team was losing.

miami will be fine.

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Wade

Just run plays for Wade at the end of games. He is way more clutch than Lebron.

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Lebron James is the best

Lebron James is the best player in the NBA for the first 46 minutes.

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“I told my team,

“I told my team, I’m not going to continue to fail late in games,” James said. “I put a lot of blame on myself tonight. I told the guys that I just keep failing them late in games and I won’t continue to do that.”

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Am I the only one that sees that as a positive statement from Lebron? He's taking ownership for losing and is vowing that he won't continue to do that anymore...as far as I'm concerned that's exactly what a franchise player should be saying under those circumstances.

Right now it doesn't matter what LBJ says people are gonna try and find some fault with it.

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The Heat does not have a

The Heat does not have a clutch time shooter. LBJ and Wade are both great scorer, but they are not pure shooters like Ray Allen, Kobe, etc.

Wade is probably the best clutch star on the team, but to hit a last second 3, Eddie House might have a better chance.

I think the Heat should consider bringing in Michael Finley to see if he can still shoot at the end of the game and play 10 minutes a game. Finley can give them a poor man Ray Allen that maybe more clutch then the big 3.

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This is why Wade took the

This is why Wade took the last shot tonight. Lebron is sick of failing...

I can tell by THIS statement alone that you didn't watch the game

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Not even a huge KB fan, but

Not even a huge KB fan, but Kobe is by far the best player in the game. And its not even purely from a basketball standpoint. He is a leader who brings a professional approach to the whole team. Do u see LA clownin round like LBJ and the Cavnettes did in CLE. Do you see LA makin a big ass scene wit everything like the Heat did this summer? Do you see Kobe doin anythin other than givin 100% pure focus and heart into everything he puts out on that floor, in, during, and after the game?

He goes hard 24/7 and is the most professional player I've seen since MJ. Thats why he gets the comparisons. He is an amazing player, but he acts like this is his job, which it is. I'd like to see more players take the approach instead of gettin paid millions, &$#%#&@! around wit the intention of partyin harder than they ball, and having basketball as a mere afterthought.

Here's to Kobe for being the realest B-Ball player we've had in close to a decade.

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Hey Lebron,

karma is a b*tch.

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"Not even a huge KB fan, but

"Not even a huge KB fan, but Kobe is by far the best player in the game"

As much as I hate to say it because I dislike Kobe more then I dislike Lebron that is true, and its not even close. Best player on the best team, until someone takes that from him hes the best.

"What would you rather Lebron say in that situation?"

Instead of saying “I told my team, I’m not going to continue to fail late in games,” James said. “I put a lot of blame on myself tonight. I told the guys that I just keep failing them late in games and I won’t continue to do that.”

I wanna hear him sayI told my team, I’m going to continue to give 100 percent effort to win late in games,” James said. “I put a lot of blame on myself tonight. I told the guys that I will just comtimue leading my team to victory the best I can late in games and continue toremain confident in myself and our team.”

Also he needs to challenge his teammates to give him support. Bosh cant be playing the way he is playing, if he plays the way he is capable of playing no game should be un winnable for the Heat.

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I just wanna clarify, I don't

I just wanna clarify, I don't care for KB...well atleast that KB ;)

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Yeah Wade is a loser for saying that. He is showing sighns that

The media coverage is killing him

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Yea, I think the LBJ factor

Yea, I think the LBJ factor is having a bit of an effect on Wade. I think there are a few groups in Libya right now for whom the state of NBA teams is something that does not even cross their minds. Kind of a real ignorant thing to say on his part. I'd like to think he thinks that heat fans wanna see the heat win as well, must not have considered that.

These guys are so full of themselves its unreal and while for Wade I like to think he has more sense than that but I have seen slight changes in him as a person since the formation of the trio.

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The Heat is by far the most

The Heat is by far the most polarizing team I have ever seen in professional sports....

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This site is flooded with

This site is flooded with Heat related topics...

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@OhCanada- I understand

@OhCanada-

I understand exactly what you mean about what LeBron said... I liked how he held himself accountable, but I didn't like the way he said it.

You can tell a lot about a person's personality or mindset by the way they say and word things.

You'd NEVER hear Kobe say, "I told my team I won't continue to fail them late in games. I keep failing late in games and I won't anymore." I NEVER heard MJ say that... Not even after the Bulls were elliminated by the Orlando Magic when he returned from retirement and didn't deliver. I've never heard a great player say they've *failed* like that.

LeBron fans get mad at me on this site, but as I've said about LeBron for a long time... Great player and physically gifted, but I don't think he's who people make him out to be and he lacks that something upstairs.

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Doesn't matter

It doesn't matter what LBJ does, what LBJ says, people will always hate him. Because the world loves to hate. Besides that, now were questioning if he's the best player in the league? Wow, but when Kobe was getting early exits in the play offs with out his all star line up, no body was questioning him. But of course Kobe and Lebron are two different players. You know Kevin Durant said Kobe and Lebron are 1a and 1b. Magic Johnson said Lebron is the best player in the league, and there are a lot of players that despite eager to take the task, still have trouble guarding him. Some of you rarely watch his games. And on top of that he's always at the top of the list when looking at MVP candidates. Over-hyped? Sure. Not the best player in the league? You are over exaggerating. Be real, you know what he can do, and you all know its only a matter of time before he gets that ring. You can justify all the statements on him all you like, but it just sounds like a bunch of hate to me. Quit pressing the panic button and keep watching, playoffs are just around the corner. Judge then. Not now.

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Taking accountability and

Taking accountability and admitting your own failures is the sign of a true leader. Everyone can talk about everything thats going good it takes a real man and a real leader to own up to their own failures

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I wanna hear him say “I

I wanna hear him say I told the team, I’m going to continue to give 100 percent effort to win late in games,” James said. “I put a lot of blame on myself tonight. I told the guys that I will just continue leading this team to victory the best I can late in games and continue to remain confident in myself and our team.”

I agree with this...

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His statement kind of reminds

His statement kind of reminds me of when Carlos Boozer was asked if the Jazz would beat the Lakers and avoid ellimination in the playoffs last season... The reporter asked would Boozer guarantee a win and Boozer replied, "I guarantee we won't lose."

Saying, "I guarantee we won't lose" and "I guarantee we will win" may sound like they mean the same thing, but they are very different.

I think of 1998 when the Pacers took the Bulls to a game seven... Michael Jordan said during a press conference... "We WILL win game seven." He didn't say, "We won't lose game seven." He said, "We WILL win game seven." Two different statements.

You can just tell a person's personality and mindset by the way they say/word things. And I think the way LeBron said that just lacked overall confidence despite the fact his goal was to hold himself accountable.

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Like I said this is not a

Like I said this is not a Lebron hatred thread, I want to see the Heat get it together, I want to see what has the potential to be some of the best basketball the NBA has to offer, but they arent living up to it. They arent making it happen and thats what I am trying to say. Dont expect them to just get it together overnight, hey arent those guys. Just like the Mavs cant make deep playoff runs, Shaq cant hit free throws, Oden cant get healthy, Kahn cant build a team to save his life, lebron cant live up to his hype. Right now as it is this is something I dont see changing soon, I think this team is going through growing pains and so is LBJ. and if a Being held accountable is beautiful, but saying that because youve been missing shots your not going to take the responsibility to shoot those shots is another.

Arguably the best talent ever in the NBA.If he grows that mindset he could go down as one of the best players ever.

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Really Indiana......

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=45mMioJ5szc

It is cool that you guys do not like LeBron, your reasons are definitely quite valid. But, the comparisons and mythology of Jordan and Kobe are just going way too far. LeBron is not Michael or Kobe, but pardon me to think that admitting to being wrong or admitting to failure as being a possible strength. To act as though you have never let anybody down would be taking no accountability. Have you guys ever done something where you have thought "I was wrong"? Have you ever let someone down? Now, imagine apologizing or explaining yourself to that one person. It is difficult, isn't it. Now, imagine doing that on a public scale.

There is no doubt that LeBron has done some ridiculous and childish things. He has not lead his team to a title and has let people down in some big game situations. Still, I think people tend to forget that Michael Jordan, for 6 years, was seen as someone who could not win the big game. Yeah, we know Mike hit the game winner for UNC as a freshman, and we also know about the shot against the Jazz, but do people forget that many of the biggest shots on Michael's championship winning teams were by someone else? John Paxson and Steve Kerr anybody? Kobe also had the luxury of not being the center of attention for his first three championships. Also, a majority of Kobe's game winners, come to think of it, were when the Lakers pretty much sucked. I know he had a lot last year and all, but lets look back to Lakers championships. We see Robert Horry and Derek Fisher hitting monsters and even last year, Ron Artest was pretty crucial.

People act as though Kobe and Michael never failed in the clutch, that they went into a mode to single handedly get the team to victory. The fact is, they usually were the only option, and that sometimes they would take some bad shots. They are both winners though, which makes it easier to just assume they both performed exceptionally well in clutch situations. Also, they definitely were more willing to shoot in the clutch than LeBron rather than making the right basketball play. When they did make the right basketball play, well, it just made them that much more clutch. I do not think LeBron James is Michael Jordan or Kobe Bryant, and I do not think he is as clutch as they are. At the same time, I think he did nothing different than Michael or Kobe would have done in answering that question. People used to hate Kobe for being like Michael, but now people hate LeBron for not being like Michael? History sure is interesting.

Basically, I am totally cool with people hating someone for something, I know I have my reasons for not liking people that may not be understood by everyone. At the same time, saying that "Michael would never do that....." or "Kobe never complained.....(By the way, ever watch Kobe play people who say this? Their is a reason he gets T'd up all the time. Not talking to anyone in particular, just have seen statements like this around the board)" is just flat out not the case. I loved this ad by Michael. I am sure when it came out, I did not fully understand it, but it shows a lot of accountability, it displays hard work and it sums up exactly how he got to his goal. Hence, I have no problem with LeBron talking about failing and working towards success. Only time will tell, but it is much better to confront the truth, which is that he has messed up, rather than side swiping it.

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"Being held accountable is

"Being held accountable is beautiful, but saying that because youve been missing shots your not going to take the responsibility to shoot those shots is another."

What do you mean?

I may be misunderstanding you, but I don't think LeBron is saying he's not going to take those shots anymore.

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Sorry I tried to edit but it

Sorry I tried to edit but it didnt work.

Being held accountable is a great sign of leadership, but saying that because youve been missing shots your not going to take the responsibility to shoot those shots is another thing... not acceptable from the best player in the league.

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When did he say he was going to stop shooting?

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“I told my team,

“I told my team, I’m not going to continue to fail late in games,” James said. “I put a lot of blame on myself tonight. I told the guys that I just keep failing them late in games and I won’t continue to do that.”

Interpretate it however you want. That does not sound like someone wanting to take that shot at all.

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Completely misunderstood

What he was saying I believe OhCanada. If anything, he is saying that he wants the team to have confidence in him even with everything that has happened thus far. He never said he is not taking shots, he also did not say he will be the only one taking shots. Personally, I think having the ball in LeBron's hands at the end of the game is the right thing to do, because he rarely forces shots and he is not afraid to give it up to an open player. The Heat have sucked in the clutch thus far, but I really do not think this will continue as a trend. Right now, they are 1-18, but I read on ESPN today that the Cavs are the 3rd best team in % when down by 3 or less with 10 seconds. Dwyane Wade and LeBron James both have hit clutch shots and they are both incredibly difficult to stop, regardless of what time in the game it is. LeBron is taking accountability for his failures thus far and saying that he is taking PERSONAL accountability for them. He is not throwing his team into it, not saying "Well, Dwyane, Chris and I need to step up." He is saying he has messed up and wants him team to still have confidence in him enough to turn it around. I believe he has a lot of confidence in his team, and if anything he tries to get everyone involved until he has to go to the resort of taking the majority of shots. He is not being a chicken or being scared of having the ball, but he is saying he wants to maintain being a leader and hopes to turn it around. Never want your best player taking accountability and doing that though......

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@mikeyvthedon That was a

@mikeyvthedon

That was a Michael Jordan endorsement commercial... Not after a tough emotional basketball game loss in which his teammates were in the back crying. MJ didn't tell his teammates that 60 games into the season after losing the fourth game in a row and feeling like everybody was against them.

And everytime somebody criticizes LeBron, you always associate it with them not liking him... Chill out with that!!!

I don't think people are saying MJ or Kobe never missed game winning shots... That'd be stupid, because we all know they did and have. Kobe takes and misses more than anybody in the league, but makes them too. MJ took, miss and made plenty as well.

My problem with LeBron is that he lacks confidence. I think being able to hold yourself accountable is a strength, but I think LeBron lacks confidence. I've always felt he's lacked confidence down the stretch of games. And that quote, along with LeBron's body language, etc just wasn't very confident to me.

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He didn't say anything about not taking shot he said he wasn'

He didn't say anything about not taking shots he said he wasn't going to fail his team anymore.
Wade did have the last shot but that was after a lebron missed the layup.

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Im not sayin Kobe is as good

Im not sayin Kobe is as good as MJ or can even hold his dick while he piss. Im sayin from acting professional and taking on your role as the team leader, Kobe has done that better than any player in the last 10 years. He is MJ from that standpoint in today's game. And if u say Kobe isnt capable of being in the conversation for best player right now, that is ignorant.

What puts him past LBJ IMO, is that professionalism, maturity, and ability to take over in clutch moments. Kobe knows when hes gotta take over and he does it. LBJ knows he should take over but lacks the confidence in himself to get the job done IMO. Confidence can take a huge stranglehold on ur ability as a player too as Im sure anyone whose balled for a while realizes.

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You can't make it as far as

You can't make it as far as Lebron has without confidence he was hyped since he was 16 many guys have crumbled under that type of pressure confidence is not the issue

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Wow

So first people bash the guy for being over-confident, now for not being confident enough. Lets just wait to see how this season plays out. If anything we all agreed to a certian level that this wouldn't be the heats year. We also agreed that it will take them awhile to completely get eachother figured out. We don't know what tommorow will bring, whether that be a ring, some more losses, or whatever.

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This is what Lebron should have said:

"Dear team, I am sorry that I have been such a failure for this organization after such big hype upon my arrival. Lebron James has been a big disappointment. It appears the same inabilities I had in Cleveland are still with me. Lebron James should get all the blame. In the future, I will give the ball to Wade and not touch the ball at the end of games."

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Why is everyone so shocked?

I started to not "believe in" LeBron back in the 2009 playoffs. Dwight couldn't be stopped, so Bron pretty much quit. In 2010, the boy straight up quit when he couldn't get his way against the C's. He mos def doesn't have confidence isssues - the guy is an ego-maniac. He does crumble under pressure, and used to blame it on not having enough talent around him. Now there is talent around him, so he is manning up to his flaws. He is not the best player in the league. He is the most physically gifted player in the league, but Kobe has a lock on the best player in the L - KD will take that title in the next few years. Kobe has mastered the nuances of the game. LeBron gets by on his physical abilities. I'm not saying he doesn't work hard, or that he isn't a talent, but he is not the best basketball player. Bring on the negatives, but if I had to choose one player to build my team around, it would not be Bron-Bron. I would choose Kobe over the last decade, and Durant going in to the next. And Wade should definitely be taking the shot at the end of the game...period!

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You seem to pick apart things LeBron says and does more than that of other players. You admit to disliking him, and I think a lot of people feel the same way as you. I feel that LeBron has drawn a lot of general hatred and dislike for certain things he has said/done. I am just trying to show a possible different side to this whole thing. I do not think he lacks confidence, even if you feel like he does with this statement or his body language. I do not recall what Michael said or did when his team was going through hard times, and I do not know if it is better or exuded more confidence than LeBron. But, I think that people give LeBron a harder time than most other players because they expect so much from him. Still, I think people do not like LeBron, hence the amount of criticism given to him and the way that it is dispersed. The Heat have huge expectations, and when they do not live up to them, ie. losing a game to a good team, coming up short in the clutch, they get a lot more flack on here than other teams. If you judge from things you read and see on this site, do people dislike the Heat? A number do. Do they dislike LeBron James? Probably even more than the Heat itself. It is an obvious observation, and hence why I tend to choose that as a way of looking at it a different way than many seem too.

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i guess if u bash the bnoat u get negatives

must not be allowed the say antyhign negative about the bnoat figure that abbreavation out its 5 words that perfect describes what his decision making pos azz is i wouldnt want that soap opera star drama queen wanting ego anyhwere on my team hes never won a ring and never will period

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andxxx, Im not sayin LBJ aint

andxxx,

Im not sayin LBJ aint confidenct, he'll I'll go as far as to say he is often cocky at times. What I am sayin is he does show a lack of confidence in the clutch moments. Maybe its not a lack, but he doesnt have near the confidence of Kobe. Kobe aint shy about puttin it up cuz he knows he has the best opportunity of making a shot under that pressure. LBJ has been givin that shot up to players of lesser caliber for years. I understand giving it up to Wade as he is a superstar as well, but even prior to him coming to Miami he was givin that shot up to the cast of essentially roleplayer on the Cavs.

If u are the leader and most dominant player in the league, there are clutch points in the game where a shot taken by u in which u are covered by 2 players often seems better than giving another player a wide open shot. The best player doesnt play the same under pressure, they thrive. LBJ is struggling to play at his normal ability under pressure. Kobe takes it to another level. Simple as that.

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@M-DYMES I agree with

@M-DYMES

I agree with everything you just said.

LeBron clearly doesn't lack for confidence as an overall player or person, but he isn't AS confident during clutch moments and when the pressure is at it's highest.

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You do know Kobe has made 1

You do know Kobe has made 1 game winner in the playoffs right against the Suns. He's made plenty of clutch plays, but last year Ron Artest came up big for them in game 6 Derek Fisher has made countless clutch shots for the Lakers in the playoffs and don't forget Robert Horry. I feel being clutch is overrated to an extend even Jordan for all his greatness didn't make every shot and John Paxson and Steve Kerr made their fair share of clutch shots. Instead of the Heat running Isos like they've been doing I'd rather them actually run a play. Take a look at what the Celtics ran at a "clutch" moment.

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Sorry for double post

Sorry for double post

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