Have you lost respect for Derrick Rose?
Apparently Bradley Beal has.
Bradley Beal said he’d lose respect for a teammate who acted like Derrick Rose
Dan Feldman May 17, 2013, 6:19 PM EDT
It’s been a while since someone notable has weighed in on Derrick Rose’s decision not to return from his ACL injury this season, and I figured it his name would stay out of the headlines a little longer, considering the Bulls’ next game is in October.
But Bradley Beal stepped up and filled the Rose-less void, and Wizards guard did so with quite a doozy while on 106.7 The Fan. As transcribed by Sarah Kogod of The Washington Post:
When asked how he’d feel if a Wizards teammate made the same decision, Beal had to admit he’d lose some respect for that player.
“A little bit. Yeah, I would,” he said. “The type of player he is, and the mentality and competitiveness that he has, I think he would have gave it a go. I don’t know what was holding him back. I think he’s scared it’s probably going to happen again and he won’t be the same. But you’re never the same after an injury. But you just have to fight through it and do something else to be able to impact the game. I’m not sure what it is he has to do. I really can’t speak for him.”
I wondered whether any Bulls lost respect for Rose, though I think it matters at least none of them said publically they did. It’s more difficult to lose respect for someone you know well, and that would apply to Rose’s teammates and not Beal, so Beal isn’t necessarily portraying the mindset of NBA players in Chicago.
Though it’s now fair to question whether Rose has lost some of his edge, it seems his teammates haven’t forgotten the many times he showed his toughness. And Beal just gave Rose another opportunity to prove himself. When the Wizards and Bulls play next season, we’ll see how scared Rose is.
I would have to agree with Beal here. Rose’s teammates will never say it, but if you saw a dude practicing, scrimmaging, and out there in pregame warmups for two/three month after he’s cleared to go….I would probably start asking some questions.
But that's just me. What do you guys think?
I firmly believe Rose had a good reason for staying out, if not well then i'd be very disappointed. ACL injuries are scary and you can see how many lose a step like Terrell Davis per se. Maybe he was afraid of not being the player he used to be? I don't know, but I see no reason not to believe him based on his past (though that test cheating was also weird), but if he cheated my Bulls because of them not being good enough or whatever other stupid possible reason, then Get the &$#%#&@! out of this league.
I don't mean this harshly of course, I just hope he wasn't sitting out for an idiotic reason. I will be on the fence about him until next season starts.
I didn't lose respect for him... im just questioning his toughness... but it would be awesome if rose comes back and proves all his critics wrong with a nice 2014 season
How would it prove the critics wrong if he comes back next season playing well. It was never about next season it was about this season and why he wasn't playing. Muscle memory or whatever is a very bad excuse, c'mon now.
In my opinion, I agree with Rose sitting out. It's his career why can't he do what he wants? Was he really being selfish? I don't think he was being selfish. Derrick Rose's health is KEY to the Bulls' success and if Rose himself feels like if he were to play in the playoffs that it would jeopardize his health, then he shouldn't have played.
Let me ask you this... What other reason would Derrick Rose have for sitting out? Is there no reason to why he sat out? Derrick Rose is a competitive player and I don't think he would sit out for no reason.
Torontorapotrs10 : "It's his career why can't he do what he wants?"
Because he is getting paid MILLIONS of dollars for doing a job, and that job is playing games with the team. Right now he is refusing to do his job when already being medically cleared since months
I understand that he is getting paid millions of dollars and you can let that million dollar ACL get destroyed again!
It is POSSIBLE that Derrick Rose could have potentially rushed back to help the team in the playoffs but what if he hurts his ACL again?! How would the owners paying those million dollars feel? YES Iman Shumpert came back quicker than Rose but injuries are different between people.
just to add, people forget that last year, he came back early. he got injured some time in early march, then came back in april, then tore his ACL later that month in the play-offs. thats what he went through last season, and i for one, does not blame him for not returning early. if i were the bulls management, i would want to take the suns' training staff approach to injuries. its not about reacting on injuries that already happen, but preventing new ones from happening. and if a whole season off is the price of that, so be it.
I know it's easy to say he should play when he is cleared to play and doing all kind of exercises and drills but in the end he has to feel ready to compete with the best in the league.
On the other hand it's not like the Bulls haven't been completely banged up. Noah could barely walk at some point in the first round, had a career night in the elimination game against the Nets and posted a tripple double in anouther game if I'm not mistaken. Deng played banged up until he had to sit iut with Meningitis(!). Taj was banged up all the time and Hinrich was missing the rest of the playoffs. Jimmy Butler played multiple times all 48 minutes, this is a team full af warriors and fighters who fight till the end.
To me Rose hasn't proved he is made from the same kind, not now or in the past. Am I upset, yes. Do I respect his decioson, yes. Do I feel sorry for his teammates, oh yes and I'm absolutely sure his teammates feel a little bit left high and dry...
To me Rose knows he will be blamed for this decision for some time but if he still decides to do it, it's his turn. Let's see how he wil respond to this the next time he steps on the court.
I think he'll be ready to go next season. It will have been 18 months since his ACL tear. That's about how long it takes to get back to full strength.
What if rose play and get hurt again next year. He should of play this year
What if rose play and get hurt again next year. He should of play this year
It's kind of crazy hearing about RG3 doing jumping jacks now off the same injury.
as a fan, it's more of disappointment than disrespect.. for the reasons that he was medically cleared & he hinted on playing.. but i guess in his mind he wasn't ready at all.. hope he bounces back..
I gained respect for Derrick Rose. I've never been a big Rose to be honest, but with that being said; it's a lot harder to go away from the crowd, and sit out until he knows he's 100%. I'm sure Rose didn't want this kind of bad publicity, especially when he was solidifying his image and place in the league. He's the Bull's future, and I think he sees himself as that too. He wants to preserve his career, and not flame out and miss games year after year like Kyrie, Wade, Derron, and many others who always have lingering injuries.
Any conspirators out there think it might have something to do with all the violence in chicago? Maybe a friend or relative got hit, and he's handling it internally.
I definitely lost respect for Rose, at least temporarily. I watched the Magic & Bird documentary for the first time last night and when they were talking about the pain and agony Bird played through with his back injury all he said was "You're paid to go to work, so you go to work."
It really highlighted the issue with Rose for me, he's being paid to go to work, so as soon as he's ready to go to work, he should damn well go to work, because that's what you have to do to earn a living.
Rose did what he feels was best for himself and for his future. To lose respect or to hate on a person who looks out for the best interests of his/her future is flat out wrong.
Anyone remember what happened to Gilbert Arenas coming back too early from a knee injury? Was never the same.
The hate Rose has received from this situation is completely ridiculous and unwarranted.
I completely agree with rose sitting out. We have all seen to many careers ruined by knee injuries. That said I see where Beal is coming from
The doctors say its all in his head, that he's as ready physically to play as he's going to get. I'm pretty sure that with the money they're paying him, they've pointed this out to him already once or twice. He'll be back when he's ready to be back. To be honest, statistically, Chicago has done just fine without him.
If I were Chi-town, I'd look into moving him once he gets back. I know that wont be a popular idea here, and I'll probably get some downvotes...but I'm still saying it. The man won't ever be the same unless he re-develops the confidence he had pre-injury. That's a tall order.
I havent lost respect for him, but I do feel his toughness has to be questioned.
Easy no. I've seen so many guys who come back from ACL injuries too soon and redo them which is basically career ending. Rose played it as smart as any guy i've seen with an ACL, why come back when ur not matchfit for the playoffs when you're not 100% confident in your body. Not like a half fit Rose was going to lead them to a title, they need him at 100%.
I don't question his toughness nor did I lose respect. People forget he played through many injuries that same year he tore the ACL. Also, senior year of high school he severely sprained his ankle and the trainers and coach told him not to play and he did. I respect his decision to not suit up, no questions asked. Hopefully he comes back even better in 2014. Gilbert Arenas, Grant Hill both examples of coming back too soon. He's a franchise player and it can't be risked.
I'm definitely not losing respect for Derrick Rose because he's sitting out, BUT my biggest problem was his indecisiveness.
He was damn near playing mind-games with everyone. He should have just made it clear after the season, and leading into the playoffs that he would be sitting out until next season.
That whole, "I might return in Game 5 depending on how I feel" had to be irritating to teammates. Especially as Chicago was losing guys by the day.
An ACL is as mental devastating as it is physical. The way Rose played, driving relentlessly, he needs to be 100% comfortable with it. If he isn't, that's when other injuries can occur. You start over compensating for it by pushing off on the other leg, landing on the other leg instead of both, all which would severely heighten the chances of injury elsewhere.
I have lost respect to him, I see why he is sitting on the bench but I cant just accept it, How could you not step on even for 1 min to inspire those guys, seeing your teammates try so hard?? I just can not accept it.
I haven't lost a bit of respect for Rose I felt he should have set the whole season no matter how far the Bulls went. My only problem is that he should have came out and made clear statement that he wasn't coming back this season. There was no use in dragging it out the way he did he should have just shut it down, All of this chatter about him would have died down by now. In my the situation was handled poorly by Rose, his representation and especially the Bulls.
As a die hard fan, I am not disappointed at all... It's his right sit out or play if he's comfortable with his knee... As long as his teammates got his back, I wouldn't argue with it at all... They know what's going on inside the locker room and we, as fans, are simply speculating on what's going on within the team... The organization is making sure his return isn't rushed as we've seen so many stars returning so early and it hurt them in the end...
People say that how come Ricky Rubio or Iman Shumpert came back and played the rest of the season, well, don't compare Derrick Rose to those guys because they don't hold the fate of the franchise on their backs... The organization invested heavily on Rose as their franchise guy and I would never blame them if they take this slowly...
I just wished though that as a fan, he should've come out and say "I won't be back 'til next season.." rather than keep us guessing on whether he would play or not.. It's been tough on most fans who are anticipating his return... I think he owed us that.. To be frank and honest whether he would play or not...
I also think the older brother advice was probably part of the factor why he decided not to play this year... Reggie Rose is his brother and no one's going to take that away, but Derrick needs to man up and make his own decision...
I have not lost respect for Derrick Rose yet. Assuming he's ready for the first game of the 2013-14 season I think it's fine he missed the season.
Now Andrew "the salsa dancer" Bynum, he's the guy I lost respect in.
I have been in two minds about the D-Rose situation over the last few weeks, I'm a huge D-Rose fan and was aa vocal supporter of him being a deserved MVP in 2011 but with the unit as a whole pulling together this year I was a bit sad he didn't get back on court.
What hasn't been mentioned is Coach Thibs' view on this, if he felt D-Rose was not willing to play and so did the team and orgaanization as a whole then I think something could well have been said. Plus why would D-Rose take part in drills and then not make the roster unless they had legit reasons, if there had been an issue he would have surely been asked to stay away or certainly not been part of warm ups or team mates would have cold shouldered him etc.
People say that D-Rose is only 24 years old and he hopefully has another 10-15 years in the NBA but why would he sit play offs as no matter how great a player you are or could be unless you are a MJ or maybe a LeBron or a Kobe at the Lakers, can you be sure how many legit shots at a title you may get. I would have figured D-Rose's motivation to be in the play offs would have been greater than a regular season Eastern road trip.
Plus people have said that Jerry Reinsdorf may have wanted to protect his investment but if D-Rose had lead the Bulls past Miami, which was perhaps unlikely it would have generated the team loads of money if they had then gone on and won the title. The Bulls have not won since MJ so Jerry would surely want to do every thing possible to achieve that especially as he is not getting any younger.
Finally I just hope that D-Rose can return to his pre injury form and if he does and the rest od the roster pull together like this season then they could be legit contenders again next year.
To me it is Rose's job to play when cleared.
If somebody came to work and said they weren't really feeling up to working, though they were medically healthy - they'd get fired.
As a Bulls fan I definitely lost some respect for him. I used to think of him as being cut from the same clothe as some of the ultimate competitors who've played in this league, but not anymore.
Not only was he medically cleared but he was going through full contact drills and scrimmages since late January. Word coming from some of the Bulls media (Stacey King and Kendall Gill in particular) was that he was looking really good in practice too. He was at just as much risk of re-injuring himself in full contact practice and drills as he'd be getting light action in games. He'll also be at the same amount of risk of re-injury NEXT yr when he finally returns. He didn't want to see light action though. He didn't want to be eased in and just be a contributing member. He said he wanted to be MVP Derrick Rose if and when he came back and that was just an unreasonable expectation because there always is an adjustment period coming back from an injury like that. There will be an adjustment period next yr too when he finally sees live action. To me its either that or he had no intention of playing at all this yr. Hearing what he and "his team" has said over the course of the season, I thought more and more that that was the plan all along. All the excuses that he and his team came up with could've been responded to in 2 words "just play." You don't feel mentally ready? You're trying to regain muscle memory? You don't trust your knee, despite it being as structurally sound as it will be next yr? Just play. That's how you regain that back. That is the last step of the recovery process, but he refused to take the last step of his recovery because why? Because he was scared that he might not look like MVP Rose? So what, that's to be expected. He could've contributed something while also completing the last step of his recovery.