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Hate To say it but Kentucky and wiggins makes sense

Think about it: wiggins is already the Consensus #1 pick in the NBA draft. I don't think there is anything anyone else can do about that. And the only real thing he probably wants out of college basketball is probably the chance at winning a nationally championship. And what team gives him the best chance at doing that? Kentucky. Wiggins will still be the star but will no doubt share that spotlight with the other talented roster. He gets dynamic practice time every day and will really test his skills in those practices. And if there are any negatives about his game they can pretty much be masked and covered up by his outstanding teammates. Idk it just makes sense to me that he would go to Kentucky even though I don't want him to. Thoughts?


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theres 1 thing i know, if

theres 1 thing i know, if wiggins does in fact choose kentucky then I would say a national title looks pretty much definite for the wildcats

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If he chooses Kentucky I

If he chooses Kentucky I believe Parker or Randle may pass him for the #1 pick in 2014.

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40-0 no way in hell UK could

40-0 no way in hell UK could lose...just way too much fire power. Have to remember Dominique Hawkins and Derek Willis would be big time players at other colleges as well.

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i have a feeling that the

i have a feeling that the same person is negging all of us lol, i mean we all make sence and theres no reason to be negged

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I think picking Kentucky is

I think picking Kentucky is the safe way out this and kind of a cop out. If all he wants to do is win a championship, then sure, go there. But if he wants to prove that he can carry a team and can shine on his own on the biggest stage, he should choose UNC or FSU. He'll be the #1 pick regardless, no need to just hide in the shadows next year and just be "one of the stars." I would love to see him be a leader and carry a team through tough times without being able to just pass the ball off to 10 other McDonald's All Americans.

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Wiggins and UK

If he wants to play up-tempo (closer to the NBA) and tough, hard nosed defense (like the NBA) then he should go to Kentucky. Cal is a great guy at getting guys ready to play, and he is a guy who knows what he is talking about. He is also not a micromanager which I kind of like at times.

UNC is a good school, but I am not a huge Roy Williams fan and I don't think that that UNC team has an identity. Can Ole Roy coach up great talent?

I think Cal would put each guy in the best possible position to win. I think he will put Andrew Wiggins in a role where he will thrive.

Wiggins will learn to not be a ball hog, how to defend, play hard, and focus for 40 minutes. He will also have to work with his teammates and be the HUNTED every game. Kentucky will be LOADED with Wiggins. Every other team will go at them like they are the 1992 Dream Team.

Each game will be intense and played like an NBA game.

I also think that Wiggins will be the go-to guy down the stretch. He will be the guy to take the BIG BIG SHOTS down the stretch in the BIG GAMES. He will learn as much from that as much as anything else. ... similar to how Jordan made the game winning shot for UNC in the title game 30 years ago. And, that was another loaded team with Sam Perkins and James Worthy to go along with Jordan. Playing with a loaded team didn't hurt Jordan much did it?

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While this is a bias opinion

While this is a bias opinion being a duke fan. Who has Cal made better ? Players all go there already knowing they are going to be NBA players. Guys like wall and rose were pretty much number 1 before they played a game for him. And I've noticed that while players are there they never really improve on their weaknesses they just get hidden be wise of the other great talents around them. Did wall rose or reke improve on their jumpers at all while they were there? What about MKG? Teague? Those guys while where good players there but IMO didn't improve much there. Players go there with weaknesses but are still lottery talents and when they are done pretty much look like the same players that they were before. And it seems like staying longer doesn't help. Players don't really improve and usually there is the risk of a younger player coming and taking your spot. How often to players really improve their draft. We all saw harrow who red shirted and actually looked worse ( I wasn't high on him to begin with ). While cal is a great recruiter he's not a good teacher IMO which is y I show more love to coach k and izzo a lot more. Has coach Cal ever turned a guy who wasn't supposed to be an NBA player into a good NBA player ?

I feel wiggins should go to FSU and learn how to be a true number one and take responsibility for his team plus I feel coach Hamilton at FSU is a really great defensive coach and could aid wiggins in becoming a lock down defender which a lot of people feel he can be.

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I also feel that if your are

I also feel that if your are supposed to be the number 1 overall pick and it's guaranteed would you not want to work on your weaknesses asap ? Rather then playing with other great players and having it masked up only to have the entire NBA pick you apart because of your weaknesses when u get drafted ? And y does he have to learn to play with great players now ? It's not like he will go to a team that already has great players around him since he will be 1st overall

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What about Deandre

What about Deandre Liggins?
Or Darius Miller?
Or especially Josh Harrelson?

Three guys that no one on Earth would have seen as league players under billy but all three were drafted after Cal took over.

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I said good NBA players...

I said good NBA players... Those guys are end of the bench players at best

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Answer the same question for

Answer the same question for Coach K?

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Liggin's and Miller

Liggin's and Miller were essentially consensus top 40 recruits in 2008. Cal is way better than BCG but there is this misconception that these dudes were bums that Cal transformed into players.

Liggin's- Scout # 37 Rivals # 28 and drafted 53rd overall in 2011

Miller- Scout #38 Rivals # 42 and drafted 46th overall in 2012

Harrellson is really the only guy that you can say it's amazing Cal got him drafted. Though it was a terrible pick by the Knicks and the guy has essentially been relegated to the D- League and highly unlikely to ever touch an NBA court for meaningful minutes going forward.

What about a guy like Doron Lamb who was a top 25 recruit that went 2nd round as well. Ryan Harrow was going to be a top 20 pick this year and keep UK rolling? Not so much all UK fans were wanting to buy him a bus tix at the end of the season.

Then you got a guy like Teague who was suppose to be great and considered a potential lotto pick coming in that nearly fell out of the 1st round. The Cal makes players better than everyone else for the next level is a misconception flat out! Guys he has recruited that were big time players mostly live up to that hype ala Davis , MKG , Wall , Rose , and Nerlens but he is nothing special working with the guys that aren't top 10 HS talents.

Only guy in this UK 2013 class that is signed as of now that I am damn near 100% confident on being very good/top 5-10 pick off the bat is Randle and I am split on the PG Harrison. Rest of those guys , don't be surprised that they are all 2-4 year players.

Really how good UK is depends a lot on how Poythress and WCS move forward more than anything from frosh to 2nd year players. Cal is a great recruiter and a solid game coach but image matters as much if not more than facts in the CBB recruiting game nowadays.

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I think he'll learn a lot

I think he'll learn a lot going to a smaller program like FSU. He'll get tighter defenses... encouraging him to develop a better offensive repertoire.

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It tends to take more than

It tends to take more than one year to work on your weakness also coming out of high school and having number 1 hype and coming out of college and actually being the number 1 draft pick is a huge difference.

You have to give credit to where it is due. I really don't care where Wiggins go but I know that Kentucky will not be a bad choice if he does go. I don't think people realize how good it is to practice against other really good players. Kentucky will probably have better competition in practice than actually games which should make some games they play really easy. Having a dream team is kinda fun because it forces other teams to push themselves harder to measure up and it is exciting.

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yea ur right about the guys

yea ur right about the guys no1 has heard of going to the nba....kentucky/cal(as much as i hate him) does produce nba players....from the guys who are top 5 in HS to the guys who arnt even in the top 150...kentucky guys are just magnets to the nba

as far as wiggins tho i agree with a post above saying its a cop out...now IF he chooses kentucky then maybe its not a cop out and maybe he just reallly wants to go there(beautiful girls and 1 of the best colleges in usa) but honestly if he went somewhere like UNC and possibly led them to the championship then that would be more impressive IMO...florida state wont even make the final four with him so if he wants to win i would not suggest going there lol....kansas may be a good choice but if you think about it kansas has a loaded class coming in too so that ALMOST falls into the same category as kentucky

i feel like wherever he chooses will be a good choice...even if it is florida st(who will have a very slim chance to win a title), ...but u never know, crazy things happen in the ncaa...too bad snaer couldnt play 1 more year or else i think that could be a contender with wiggins and xavier rathan mayes coming in

lots of different senerios and next year should be very exciting in college hoops!

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Basketball Junkies right.

Basketball Junkies right. Every situation puts Wiggins is a good place, because he's talented enough to make it work where ever he goes. And every place has downside, if he doesnt play up to expectations. However, whether its at UK, UNC, KU or FSU, he will be given every opportunity to be dominant. I doubt Wiggins would consider going to a "bad situation".

My question, if he goes to FSU, can he put up Durant or Beasley-esque numbers?

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Wiggins -->Kentucky:National

Wiggins -->Kentucky:
National Championship title? Highly Likely.
40-0? Hell no.

This team looks really good, but we still don't know if the players will mesh like the 2011 team did. Many of you probably hyped this team up last season, but we all know how their season ended. I will say, though, if Kentucky ever had a chance to go undefeated, this team seems like the one that could do it (with Wiggins, of course), but I'll just wait and see how this team plays first.

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Kentucky is the safest and he

Kentucky is the safest and he would have the easiest adjusting to the college game and finding his potential. If he picks any other school he is the number option and the primary focus for the opposing team defense, it's hard to put up good numbers as a freshman when you got seniors loading up on you.

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This whole shy guy thing

I could see him at UK. As I said before hes a stud , but he tries to avoid the spotlight as much as possible. UK will have the lights on them but he will be able to blend in with or perhaps even behind Randle, Harrisons etc anywhere else hes the main attraction. I cant blame him at all for such a good business decoiision , because thats what this is a business decision. Same for Randle, after the injury UK was the safest bet to top 5. Cal puts an attractive package out for the kids.

Agree fully with the comments about him developing players too, hes no legend. His thing is ego/personality management imo.

Its a shame though. I remeber when players wanted to make a name for themselve. The NBA super tem theory has now reach college lol

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It's cool

He's going to Kansas. Just happened

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never been so happy

to be wrong. Let the real fun begin

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