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Has the NBA been ruined?

With guys like Lebron and Bosh leaving their teams for bigger markets to play on super teams and now guys like Carmelo Anthony and Chris Paul wanted out to do the same, and rumors of Deron Williams seeking greener pastures, are we headed to an NBA where all the good players want to play in a big market with the all the best players? I mean if guys are going to start taking less money to play with one another what does that mean for the smaller markets? Teams like the Pacers, Wolves, Bobcats, Raptors, Cavaliers and Bucks could never survive. Does David Stern need to do something about this? Maybe bigger incentives for staying with the team that drafted you? Or have the Miami Heat doomed the NBA?


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this trend is definately

this trend is definately scary ... i think a continuance of these types of maneuvers will definately compromise the integrity of the competition in the NBA - the miami heat have generated a ton of interest for the upcoming season, but if we see other players continue to do the same to the point where there are 2 or 3 super teams and everybody else is like the JV - i think the league as a whole becomes less interesting

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it seems cool to see if the

it seems cool to see if the knicks lets say.. lets say... get carmelo and cp3, go up against miami's big 3... but then again, i thought these guys want to be the man on their own teams, to me, it takes the competeive spirit out of the nba.
and lawdeezee, i think the nba will become more interresting... cuz if u have great nba trios on one team, that brings excitement imo, but then again the competetion is lessened, and like u said, its like everyone else is JV

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I love this and it forces Gm

I love this and it forces Gm to do better and players to step up so there can be more big 3's. Sacramento could have a big 3 soon if Evans, Cousins and legit and another one of their rookies or young player pan out.

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People forget Deron Williams

People forget

Deron Williams wasn't happy with Utah last season. I don't remember what happened but he was not happy.

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Actually dwill is happy in

Actually dwill is happy in utah. hes just not happy with the way the organization has traded a couple players that he felt should not have been traded, every one here in utah will tell ya that

as far as the nba being ruined....nope. was the nba ruined when every one knew every year that the bulls were gonna win the title?..or when the lakers were gonna win the title?..nope..on top of that with stars teamming up that opens up time and oppurtunity for new stars to emerge just like when cp3 got hurt d.collins emerged. when the wiz traded all those players blachte emerged.

Also ive noticed that ever since the new big three joined forces in miami there are wayyyyy more peopel i know who rarely if ever watch nba games, now planning to watch every game miami plays in and with that people will see some other player they never knew about from another team thats playing against miami and they are gonna start watching that player,starting a domino effect.

these other teams will survive seeing as the clippers have been bad for ever and survived, the knicks have been bad for a long time and survived,golden state, etc. Some make this a bigger deal then it is since its nothing new to have a super team and a bunch of bad teams at the same time. this isnt even the worst its been, there were years in the past when there were 3 or four super teams and a bunch of regular/bad teams and things worked out very well

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its all about the money

its all about the money dudes...the Heat are going to attract a packed house every night...David Stern doesn't care, imagine how many new fans the Miami Heat have....as TV ratings go up, David Sterns erection goes up,

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This was my initial reaction.

This was my initial reaction. The best I can hope for is that there is no chemistry between the three, and that after a few years the cracks start to show as they become fat with success and sick of sharing the spotlight. Methinks they'll realise why players only team up like this when they are older and are reaching the end of their careers. They pulled the trigger on this team-up far too soon in my opinion and I just don't think their egos can survive together for 6 years.

I think Sheltwon touched on this, but hopefully a more naturally occuring big 3 can come about through the draft or trades. Teams that I like to threaten the Heat in the next 6 years barring the older teams like Celtics/Lakers and how long I think it'll take.

Portland if Batum flourishes and Oden stays healthy can challenge sooner rather than later. 1 Year.

Thunder if Aldrich works out or they find a legit C somewhere else and Durant becomes a more dominant closer/defender and Westbrook continues to flourish. 2 years.

Bulls if Rose develops a jump shot and finds an All-Star wing to go along with Boozer and Noah down low. 1 Year.

Sacramento if Cousins can become Shaq 2.0 and Reke develops a jumper/picks a position and sticks with it. 3 years.

And finally I've gotta say the Wizards if Wall, McGee and Blatche can co-exist and grow together. 4 years.

Any one of these teams has a chance to give Miami trouble in a 7 game series at some point during the next 6 years they have that contract.

That said, a lot, and I mean a LOT of ifs there.

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miami killed the league

some fans love the heat and those 3 players but these people cant understand the situation of the nba right now.
saying the GMs are challenge its exciting to watch the game etc. but no matter what you do if the top 5 players in the nba are in the same team there is no way you can beat them.

There are 30 teams in the nba if stern wants the nba to stay alive, if he dont want the league to fall he needs to spread the stars make people see that there are 30 teams in the nba not 3 just like what happened right now. The cavs is dead a lot of money had lost because of weakness of lebron james. I understand he wants to play with a great team mate but it should not be with a guy that everybody sees as his rival. Right now, the miami lovers are excited but the teams like cavs, nets, wolves are dead who the hell would watch them knowing that they will never have a chance to become contenders especially when paul or other star follow what the 3 had done.

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guess peopel forget history.

guess peopel forget history. top to bottom the past lakers,celtics had better players, bunch of hall of famers. the nba will survive and people need to stop overreacting. doesnt matter if another team can beat them . teams couldnt beat boston for years, the bulls would have won 8-10 straight and the nba wouldnt have suffered. like i said before every onw KNEW the bulls were gonna win and dominate yet the NBA thrived. people complain about not liking it but those who dont liek it will watch and cheer for the heat to lose and those who are heat fans will cheer for them to win. having heroes and villians has ALWAYS been a good thing for the NBA. history has shown that brings more people to watch then a evened out NBA

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i dont like it

i liked it back when almost every team had at least one or two players on their team that was good. u found out who the best was by wat player took his team the farthest. even when shaq and kobe and duncan and robinson were playing together and won like they did they didnt conspire to come together. it came naturally thru the draft. i jus dont like the new trend now. its lame

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Even back in the day star

Even back in the day star players have left teams although they were a lil older. barkley left when he was olderr but he was still a allstar at the time.. Same with clyde drexler. its a double standard to say other players can go to other teams in order to have a better chance to win a title but stars dont. And Us fans are never happy. we get on a player for staying for the money or staying and not winning a title but also get on them for joining other stars and taking LESS money for a better chance to win a title. its liek the players are in a no win situation and the only times fans are happy is when the players do exactly what they want them to do which is what exactly?..stay wit the cavs not win a title and have the fans say " yeah he was good but he could never lead his team to a title so im not gonna rank him as one of the best ever" He goes to another team with other stars and fans say " yeah he's good but he won a title with other stars so he cant be one of the best ever"

And then its ok to have three hall of famers(boston, lakers) if they were drafted by the team but not if they went to the team via free agency. Part of building a title team isnt just drafting players, its drafting,trading,and getting free agents. Why didnt boston get as much flake when they signed there big three?..because they were older? that shouldnt matter.

So is it ok to leave a team via free agency for the money or for a better chance to win a title?

And the answer to "Has the NBA been ruined" will be answered very quickly when we see the ratings for the heat games because ticket sales and ratings tell you all you need to know about how unpopular/popular something is.

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Actually dwill is happy in

Actually dwill is happy in utah. hes just not happy with the way the organization has traded a couple players that he felt should not have been traded, every one here in utah will tell ya that

So he was unhappy with Utah at a point just like I said.

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unhappy with players being

unhappy with players being traded but happy with everything else. so unhappy with some parts and happy with others. so id say he was neutral with utah..lol

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Believe me the NBA has

Believe me the NBA has already examined the Pros & Cons of these Superteams..Stern knows the Ramifications of having too many bad teams..Before Stern took over as Commish ,the NBA Finals were on tape Delay..Teams were losing money,poor Attendances..And when it seemed like teams were tanking games to get a chance at the top pick..The League installed the Lottery...He made the game Global,made the players more marketable then some of the teams..So right now Stern might be sipping on some Cognac or Colt 45 in a meeting with other members of the NBA office..Trying to come up with ideas on how to tackle this, if it gets out of hand....

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The Knicks have always

The Knicks have always underachieved but they have a big fan base in a big market so get linked to all sorts of players. Also when Donnie Walsh traded for T-Mac he perhaps gambled that T-Mac's knee would recover and he could find a level near to his Orlando and Houston peak thus with one player in place the Knicks could look to add another couple of top FA's.

As earlier posters have said the Bulls dominanted in the MJ era and this made the NBA bigger than ever before and the Celtics dominated with Bill Russell under Red Auerbach but these teams were built up.

Perhaps Boston set the blueprint when they traded for KG and Ray Allen back in the summer of 2007, you got three legit stars on a team and built around that. The Lakers countered by adding Pau Gasol via a big trade, all their other pieces were added gradually. Since then others have tried to compete following a similar formula.

We have not had loads of guys doing a Shaq and bolting from their rookie deal after signing a one year deal to become an unrestricted FA after their 5th NBA season. If Kevin Durant hadn't resigned with Oklahoma and had started making noises about getting out then you could say there may be a problem.

All play off games sold out this year and even smaller teams like the Bucks who had to cut costs last year have splashed the cash this summer.

Some teams will get bigger and there will be difficulty for lesser markets to attract the big name FA's as has always been the case. Also some owners like Mark Cuban and potentially the Nets new billionare owner will always splash more cash to try and make their teams challengers.

The Pacers were losing money even when they were a play off team with Miller, JO and co, Toronto has lost top players like Carter and now Bosh but Bryan Colangelo has rebuilt the roster this summer, Cleveland perhaps were too reliant on LeBron and just assumed he would stay. As a Phoenix fan we lost STAT but we have added a few decent players and may not be that far behind where we were last season but Cleveland seemed to think it was their right to have LeBron and didn't have a plan B when he left.

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teams will struggle though if

teams will struggle though if they don't have star players to attract fans ... they might sell out the games when miami comes to town, sure ... but i was at the knicks vs. wizards game last year at MSG ... i believe it was the last home game of the regular season for NY and that place was far from full! ... there will be a few big rivalries, but there will be so many teams that are completely irrelavent and if they can't draw fans to games, then that's not good for the league financially

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where all the good players

where all the good players want to play in a big market with the all the best players?

Kevin Durant committed to playing in Oklahoma City for the next six years. Rudy Gay will be in Memphis, TN. Brandon Roy is in Portland, OR. Dwight Howard is signed on with a team in Orlando, FL for another two years. All while the Knicks had to outbid all other suitors for the services of Amare Stoudemire, Raymond Felton, and Timofey Mozgov.

I mean if guys are going to start taking less money to play with one another what does that mean for the smaller markets?

What happened this past summer with Miami is incredibly unique given the amount to cap space them accumulated. It is not the start of a trend. ESPN needs to fill 24-hours of programming, and making up rumors of players going to the Knicks is a successful lie that is always a go-to move for them. The Knicks will have $42 million committed to seven guys next summer once they pick up their rookie scale options. They won't have the pieces or the cap room to assemble a "super team"

Teams like the Pacers, Wolves, Bobcats, Raptors, Cavaliers and Bucks could never survive.

Milwaukee might very well win the Central this year. With Bogut, Jennings, a good supporting cast, and a very reasonable cap picture going forward, they are going to be a playoff team for a long time.

Does David Stern need to do something about this? Maybe bigger incentives for staying with the team that drafted you? Or have the Miami Heat doomed the NBA?

Really? Having two glamor franchises - one in LA and the other in Miami- is bad for the league? Go to stubhub and see what Heat tickets on the road are going for. Have Real Madrid and FC Barcelona doomed Spanish soccer? Has Chelsea ruined the English Premier League? Have the Yankees ruined MLB?

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exactly!!! and dont forget

exactly!!! and dont forget that there is a draft every year so these bad teams will draft the next batch of superstars.

even if you do have a star player that doesnt mean you wont struggle..anyone recall miami the past couple of years on tv when they play home games? did ya'll see all those empty seats?

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There are only a few teams in

There are only a few teams in the NBA that are not good and also have no excitement. There are some average teams and some almost bad teams that are young and exciting to make up for how good they are right now. There are only a few teams that most people can name that have very little following.

Jenning made Bucks interestings. Philly has some high flyers. This year Indiana has some nice young pieces around Granger to make them watcable. It would appear people are crying about team like Minny and Cleveland who are not as well received as a lot of teams.

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and i would cry for minny

and i would cry for minny with all that young talent and cap space plus with the players in the next couple of drafts. same with cleveland minus the cap space

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if this hapens

the playoffs will be amazing

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The draft is there to protect

The draft is there to protect the smaller teams to a certain extent and when Shaq bolted to the Lakers in the summer of 96 then this indirectly lead to a rookie's team having the right to match any offer or a player having to spend 5 years at least with his drafting club.

Chelsea did buy the English Premier League title to a certain degree but Manchster United have always spent big and now Manchester City are outspending anyone in world football having conmmitted over £120 million on new players this summer alone.

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lol

lol

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yes it is ruined

if this continous more teams will get bankrupt stern will have more problem i think he has big problem now with hornets with paul still there imagine without him

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the nba has survived no

the nba has survived no matter what has happen...it has lived thru

magic announcing his hiv status..

jordan retirements..

crooked refs

lockouts

having the championship game shown on tape delay after the news

low ratings and low attendances

and it will survive this...the nba is the most popular sports among teens and young people and its stars are known by their 1st names...

people seem to forget that teams of the 60's,70's and 80's had several hall of fame caliber players on their roster...

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