[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 I just watched DX’s workout interview with him and my god I didn’t realise how skinny this dude was. He doesn’t look overly athletic, and although his shot looked fairly smooth he’s never really shwon much of an ingame shooting ability. I didn’t catch much of Duke this year when he was playing, so can someone give me a rundown on whether his size affects him? I don’t see this guy being able to rebound in traffic or box out effectively for at least a few years unless his vert gains an extra 5 inches over the summer with knee rehab. His combine numbers say hes 232 at 5.2% body fat which tells me he’s pure muscle but gosh he’s thin. Needs to start putting on some size over the predraft process for sure, unless he’s scared to put much more on his frame with how his knees have been?

[ChewyParticipant]

 people saying he was the Next C-Webb in HS before the knee injuries. Clearly he didn’t show any of that potential this year at Duke. 

Some people still think he has All-Star Potential.

Given his injury history and play at Duke, If he plays 10 years he will be lucky.

 

 

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 Never saw anybody compare him to C Webb or even think about it you may be confusing C Webb with Garnett as Giles use to always get KG comps and even Aware.

 

 

[IlladelphParticipant]

A lot of folks on this web site seem to think that Giles’ knee injury history is not a big deal.  But history bears out that big men with knee issues don’t last in the NBA.  Giles is rail thin at 232 pounds.  If he goes on a weight program (which he will undoubtedly be put on when he gets tot he NBA) his knees are going to have to support a whole lot more weight than he’s got right now.  Durability-wise, he has to be a big question mark.  I do think he goes middle of first round because some GM is going to overlook his injury history in the hope that the potential that was demonstrated in high school will be realized.  And witht he new cap, draft picks are cheaper than ever.

I’m gonna go on record here again saying that I think that it was a huge mistake for Giles to play at Duke.  He should have taken the year to recover and max up for the draft and for workouts.  As it happened, he played and really did not live up to the hype.  He went into the year at Duke projected as a top 3 pick, and left projected as a possible 2nd rounder by some services.  Had he just focused on rehab, and stayed out of the limelight, he would have been a lock for the upper lottery.  

I always liked Giles.  He has ridiculous upside if his knees hold out, and he is a high character kid.  I wish him the best, but I have serious concerns for how his knees will hold up at an NBA playing weight of 250-275.

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

I read somewhere on the internet that he has a 27 inch vertical (I think I read it on The Ringer). If so, that’s BAD.

He sounds like a backup power forward AT BEST.

Where does that guy go?  Sixers with one of their late second rounders? Celtics with one of their late second rounders?

Utah might be able to use him at 30. They have Favors and Lyles as well as Diaw, but if they get rid of one of those guys then they could use some extra depth at power forward. They also have an earlier first round pick (24) so I can see them taking a perimeter guy there…

Sixers second 2nd round pick at 39 might be a good spot for Harry Giles. I can see him working with Embiid.  I can actually see ANY big man working well with Embiid.

If Sacto goes with perimeter help at 5 and 10, I can see them taking a look at Harry Giles at 34. Giles can backup the Skal-WCS young big man combo.  

I can see Giles anywhere from 24 to Utah to 53 to Boston.

If he goes higher than 24, then I would look at the Bucks at 17.  They are building a young, fun, exciting team around Giannis as a do it all unicorn. Jabari Parker is their "2nd option" but he has had some injuries and nobody really knows what position he plays… Malcolm Brodgon is a big, serviceable point guard. The Bucks need some more ammo, but at 17 Giles might be the "best guy" on the board if they decide to go with a amoeba rotation starring the multitalented Greek Freak, super tweener Jabari, Brogdon, 3/2 Kris Middleton, oh yeah, they have Thon Maker too, who is a big man at either the 4 or 5.

Hmm…

I actually like that. Get another Dookie with a solid tool kit to put around the FREAKTENTIAL COMBO of Giannis and Thon Maker.  Brogdon is the other low-athleticism "tools guy" with Jabari.  Middleton is either the 4th option as a starter or a top notch 6th man.

If the Kidd Kids dare to dream with a Giannis, Middleton, Jabari, and Thon quartet, then I kinda like Giles as the fifth guy.  He can give you some points, some rebounds, some range, he’s a natural 4, but maybe he can play some five. Doesn’t need to do too much — doesn’t HAVE to do too much, but he looks like a really, really solid fifth guy in these lineups.  Or, he headlines a bench as a ground-bound Boris Diaw type. Get some easy points on junk layups, some rebounds, and make a few plays… Delly runs the second unit.

I forgot about Greg Monroe… With the ground bound Monroe, a second unit featuring him isn’t gonna go Showtime. So, Giles might be a good power forward to put next to him.  Giles can give you a lot of what John Henson does at a cheaper price…

The Bucks are probably the best fit for Giles of any team that is picking in the middle of the first round.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 I personally never quite understood the appeal from an NBA perspective even before the multiple injuries.  I guess it made sense for him to be ranked so high in his class but the dude was full grown by the time he was 16.  If you’re that much bigger and athletic than everybody you’re playing against of course you should dominate.

Contrast that to someone like DeAndre Ayton who not only has elite measurements and elite athletic ability, but also has some skill you would look for from a modern big man.

I was never of the belief that Giles would have justified a top 5 pick even if he had no injury history.  No matter what happened at Duke.

 

 

[tuck243Participant]

I’m a Duke fan and I never saw the #1 pick in Giles prior to the knee injury.   Just a bunch of dunks and no actual game. 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 I think Aytons kind of overrated. Great skill, size and athletic abillity but I question his ball iq and mentality. Just doesnt seem like a dominant player/alpha type player. Still one of the favourites for the 2018 1st overall pick though. 

[clunie.sportsParticipant]

 Watch more Ayton if this is your assumption of him.  The guy is very David Robinson like, quiet demeanor doesn’t always equate to not wanting it bad enough.  When you are his size in high school there aren’t too many times to get all jacked up for your opponent though as it comes very easy…

[OhCanada-Participant]

 He will still get rebounds. He has a nose for the ball and understands angles, knows where the ball will bounce and has good anticipation instincts but he rebounds like a gaurd or wing. Takes the easy route rather than going body to body to gain position unless hes already in position. 

I dont think you wanna bulk him up too much like Lil Delph said. His shot is looking good and you probally would want to build off that and have him develop into a Chris Bosh type finesse player. 

Ive been critical of Giles but I do still think he has a good foundation for a prospect theres just tons of valuable bigs in this draft with alot less risks and more defined roles. Hes gotta get more skill, fix some bad habits and hopefully the injuries dont haunt him. Skills can be taught, most bad habits can be fixed, but knees are kind of unpredictable. 

 

 

[HeroescantdieParticipant]

Ijuries, injuries injuries, Like 2-3 yrs ago he’s like the next big thing, like DAvis towns etc. He’s like that caliber of a player, then what.Inuries ahppend. It’s sad to see this. I’m just happy for him playing. I think gaining weight will be bad for him. Remember oden when he added weight? Jabari I think also put on a muscle and he’s knees is adapting to the weight then the injury happened. it’s sad to see a player highly touted down fall beacuse of injuries

[tblazer_NZParticipant]

Oden walked around with a walking stick because he had one leg longer than the other (everyone does but his was significant).

[MopgrassParticipant]

 Knees are a concern, being too skinny isn’t. There are 9 PF’s or C’s who weigh less, but are projected to be drafted. You can’t base your scouting on what he did at Duke. Not because the system didn’t suit his style (though it totally didn’t) but because he was still recovering. I’m not convinced he’s all the way back. He was never a jump out of the gym guy, but 32.5 inch vertical… I’ve seen him jump higher. At least 37, 38. More importantly, I know he’s faster than he tested. He was dead average at the combine. 

I’m guessing he’ll be flagged in physicals. He’s still not right. Someone might need to shut him down for a bit. But I still think he’s worth a gamble. 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

Anybody with a 38 inch verticle has jump out of the gym athletisism. That would be ridiculous hops for a 6’11 guy with 7’3 wingspan.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 I remember when Noah, Jason Smith and Yi Jianlin all recorded 38" verts being legit 7"ers.  Never heard about any gym roofs being scared tho.  I have heard rumors of hair gel being terrified of Jason Smith tho he apparently kills the hair gel.  Hasn’t been any hair gel on the roof since Birdmans Denver days tho.  Hope that helps.

 

 

 

 

 

[DunksNJordans23Participant]

 Personally I think a team takes a 1st round flyer on him that has two picks, especially if those picks are late like Brooklyn. I can’t help but think that if Giles went to a school like Wake Forest, who was in his final four when deciding on a college that he would be a second round pick or undrafted. Renardo Sidney (not a one and done) type of scenario, elite recruit goes to small school and under performs and can’t hack onto an NBA roster once he declares.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

Giles calling card was always his combo of KG like quick, coordinated, rare springy athleticism and length combined with high intensity.  

Skals success at the end of the year for the Kings i feel bodes well for Giles.  Hes still a young rare physical specimen who can become the prototypical modern C with his ability to protect the rim, catch lobs, and switch onto guards blowing up PnRs.

 

He seems to be very high character so I doubt he drops to the 2nd.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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