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- Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 2:38pm #41039
akhan786ParticipantYou can’t tell me you can’t see the similarities in their game and body. Once Barnes develops a better handle I can definitely see him having a similar career as Finley. A couple of All Star Games and a couple of season leading his team in scoring.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 2:42pm #689145
TMoney617ParticipantYea I would have to agree that this is the closest NBA comparison for Barnes. Very similar playing styles. And like you said, if he ever gets handles, he’ll be a dangerous player.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 2:42pm #689148
TMoney617ParticipantYea I would have to agree that this is the closest NBA comparison for Barnes. Very similar playing styles. And like you said, if he ever gets handles, he’ll be a dangerous player.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 3:04pm #689154
UNCbasketballbumParticipantthe Michael Finley comparisons are right on point….good athlete, nice stroke, high character guy. I think somebody mentioned the compariosn before.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 3:04pm #689151
UNCbasketballbumParticipantthe Michael Finley comparisons are right on point….good athlete, nice stroke, high character guy. I think somebody mentioned the compariosn before.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 4:20pm #689202
AstroParticipantThe similarities are superficial.
Michael Finley was almost a poor man’s Grant Hill or Scottie Pippen in college, especially as a senior. He was an ok, not great shooter, but he handled the rock well for his size, passed, created off the dribble and played with fearlessness and intensity. His intensity was closer to that of MK-G.
Harrison Barnes is more of a tony kind of player; Finley was more of a junkyard dog type. Barnes is closer to a Sean Elliott than a Finley. Definitely a better set shooter and catch and shoot guy than Finley (probably for most of his pro career as well.)
"Once Barnes develops a better handle"
That’s all? 😉
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 4:20pm #689207
AstroParticipantThe similarities are superficial.
Michael Finley was almost a poor man’s Grant Hill or Scottie Pippen in college, especially as a senior. He was an ok, not great shooter, but he handled the rock well for his size, passed, created off the dribble and played with fearlessness and intensity. His intensity was closer to that of MK-G.
Harrison Barnes is more of a tony kind of player; Finley was more of a junkyard dog type. Barnes is closer to a Sean Elliott than a Finley. Definitely a better set shooter and catch and shoot guy than Finley (probably for most of his pro career as well.)
"Once Barnes develops a better handle"
That’s all? 😉
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 4:21pm #689208
Pistol Pete. The PelicanParticipant..can allow you to see what people said..
nbadraft.net/forum/finally-found-perfect-harrison-barnes-comparison
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 4:21pm #689213
Pistol Pete. The PelicanParticipant..can allow you to see what people said..
nbadraft.net/forum/finally-found-perfect-harrison-barnes-comparison
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 4:22pm #689206
JoeJoParticipantBarnes shares some similarities with Finley’s mid-range game but overall, I think Granger’s a closer fit. I don’t remember Finley being much of a playmaker but he had four straight seasons where he averaged 4.9, 4.4, 5.3 and 4.4 assists per game. Right now, I think don’t Barnes is ever likely to be that kind of passer.
At his best, I think Barnes could statistically mirror Granger: assists in the 2-3 range, a high number of threes at a very good percentage, FT/game in the 6 range (better than Finley who was at 3-4 FT/game at his peak). Gay is pretty good comp too as far as potential free throw attempts and assists go but the comp weakens with the three point shot.
0- Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 4:36pm #689214
AstroParticipantAnd 3.2 for his entire college career.
Barnes 1.2 apg for career.
They’re simply different types of players.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 4:36pm #689219
AstroParticipantAnd 3.2 for his entire college career.
Barnes 1.2 apg for career.
They’re simply different types of players.
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- Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 4:22pm #689211
JoeJoParticipantBarnes shares some similarities with Finley’s mid-range game but overall, I think Granger’s a closer fit. I don’t remember Finley being much of a playmaker but he had four straight seasons where he averaged 4.9, 4.4, 5.3 and 4.4 assists per game. Right now, I think don’t Barnes is ever likely to be that kind of passer.
At his best, I think Barnes could statistically mirror Granger: assists in the 2-3 range, a high number of threes at a very good percentage, FT/game in the 6 range (better than Finley who was at 3-4 FT/game at his peak). Gay is pretty good comp too as far as potential free throw attempts and assists go but the comp weakens with the three point shot.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 4:49pm #689218
akhan786ParticipantYeah I remember someone a long time ago making the comparison but I was going over some old Slam Dunk competitions and I was struck at how similar both Finely’s body looked and moved like Barnes.
Biggest difference would probably be Finley gave everything he could when playing while Barnes looks like he’s selling insurance out there on the basketball court lol.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 4:49pm #689223
akhan786ParticipantYeah I remember someone a long time ago making the comparison but I was going over some old Slam Dunk competitions and I was struck at how similar both Finely’s body looked and moved like Barnes.
Biggest difference would probably be Finley gave everything he could when playing while Barnes looks like he’s selling insurance out there on the basketball court lol.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 5:57pm #689240
For_Never_EverParticipantI believe comparing Terrence Ross to Finley is even better.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 5:57pm #689245
For_Never_EverParticipantI believe comparing Terrence Ross to Finley is even better.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 6:07pm #689248
RapCityParticipantYou guys are killing me with these Barnes comparisons lol. When I look at Barnes, I see a 6’8 spot up shooter that is content on staying in the corner to space the floor. I know he tested really well at the combine, but that still doesn’t change the fact he doesn’t play with much athleticism. At the NBA level, I do see him adding a lethal one or two dribble pull up game, running the floor hard, defending his position and helping on the glass because of his size and athleticism.
But let’s not play the should’ve, would’ve, could’ve game. Then I could say, "what if" Michael Kidd-Gilchrist gets a handle and a jumper, then he could be *insert superstar name here*. Or "what if" Javale McGee had a brain, he would be *insert NBA legend here*. Hey, I’m not one to say Harrison Barnes won’t greatly improve throughout his career, but we got to be honest with ourselves and compare players to what they are. I think draft.net nailed this Harrison Barnes comparison bang by calling him Glen Rice.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 6:07pm #689253
RapCityParticipantYou guys are killing me with these Barnes comparisons lol. When I look at Barnes, I see a 6’8 spot up shooter that is content on staying in the corner to space the floor. I know he tested really well at the combine, but that still doesn’t change the fact he doesn’t play with much athleticism. At the NBA level, I do see him adding a lethal one or two dribble pull up game, running the floor hard, defending his position and helping on the glass because of his size and athleticism.
But let’s not play the should’ve, would’ve, could’ve game. Then I could say, "what if" Michael Kidd-Gilchrist gets a handle and a jumper, then he could be *insert superstar name here*. Or "what if" Javale McGee had a brain, he would be *insert NBA legend here*. Hey, I’m not one to say Harrison Barnes won’t greatly improve throughout his career, but we got to be honest with ourselves and compare players to what they are. I think draft.net nailed this Harrison Barnes comparison bang by calling him Glen Rice.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 6:34pm #689280
mistapink1Participant…had even one of michael finley’s testicles. then he’d be a lock for the second pick and competing for the number one overall. there are many superficial similarities, no doubt. but every intangible favors michael finley. including an absolutely ridiculous crunch time switch. finley was actually more like a righty manu; a guy who just had a flair for the dramatic. he could hit the big time 3 or drive and dunk tho’ he became much more perimeter oriented that manu ever did.
i compare harrison barnes to mike miller. he’s a big 2-3 like miller. shoots the outside jumper tho’ he’s not particularly efficient at it. y’know, just like mike miller. is big, long and athletic just like miller even tho’ he doesn’t exploit it. just like mike miller. he’ll give you 15-20 ppg, maybe 5-6 boards, negligible assists and occasionally give you a 30 point game where he shoots 7-9 from three point range with at least one spectacular dunk as he finally seems to realize "hey, the guy, in front of me can’t possibly check me if fake the j then take it to the rack." then he’ll promptly follow that up with an 11 point, 4-12 effort where he disappears for long stretches. i see harrison barnes as a guy who’ll score, maybe get lucky enough to scrape onto an all-star team or two, shoots around 44% from the field with average efficiency, and always leaves fans, coaches and teammates wanting more. pretty much exactly like mike miller (minus the all-star games, tho’ miller had a couple seasons where he was certainly a borderline all-star.) barnes is the type of player who can be exactly as good as he wants to be. if he had heart, he could be michael finley or carmelo anthony. but he doesn’t seem to want it. all you really need to know about harrison barnes in the end is that he shocked the hell out of everybody when he flashed a 40 inch vertical, because no one had ever seen him use it to dominate an opposing player…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 06/27/2012 - 6:34pm #689285
mistapink1Participant…had even one of michael finley’s testicles. then he’d be a lock for the second pick and competing for the number one overall. there are many superficial similarities, no doubt. but every intangible favors michael finley. including an absolutely ridiculous crunch time switch. finley was actually more like a righty manu; a guy who just had a flair for the dramatic. he could hit the big time 3 or drive and dunk tho’ he became much more perimeter oriented that manu ever did.
i compare harrison barnes to mike miller. he’s a big 2-3 like miller. shoots the outside jumper tho’ he’s not particularly efficient at it. y’know, just like mike miller. is big, long and athletic just like miller even tho’ he doesn’t exploit it. just like mike miller. he’ll give you 15-20 ppg, maybe 5-6 boards, negligible assists and occasionally give you a 30 point game where he shoots 7-9 from three point range with at least one spectacular dunk as he finally seems to realize "hey, the guy, in front of me can’t possibly check me if fake the j then take it to the rack." then he’ll promptly follow that up with an 11 point, 4-12 effort where he disappears for long stretches. i see harrison barnes as a guy who’ll score, maybe get lucky enough to scrape onto an all-star team or two, shoots around 44% from the field with average efficiency, and always leaves fans, coaches and teammates wanting more. pretty much exactly like mike miller (minus the all-star games, tho’ miller had a couple seasons where he was certainly a borderline all-star.) barnes is the type of player who can be exactly as good as he wants to be. if he had heart, he could be michael finley or carmelo anthony. but he doesn’t seem to want it. all you really need to know about harrison barnes in the end is that he shocked the hell out of everybody when he flashed a 40 inch vertical, because no one had ever seen him use it to dominate an opposing player…
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