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- Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 11:52am #37669
JonOatsParticipantHope all the doubters just saw the back to back dunks against KU. First was one step over a 7 footer and then alley oop. Under control somehow gets viewed as slow or unathletic.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 11:55am #651116
HaleParticipantDon’t worry as soon as he misses a shot everyone who has hated on him recently will be back.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 11:59am #651117
D7H7NParticipantBarnes really need to get some dribbling drills done.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 12:01pm #651120
apb540ParticipantI’m hoping my boy has a big second half.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 12:04pm #651122
NickWayne87ParticipantBarnes is a pretty good basketball player……but i still have my doubts about him being a go-to scorer at the next level….he’s not really a "go-to" scorer at this level even though they play him as one……what i mean is he doesn’t really create his own shot, that’s where the doubt comes in. That’s really the only thing about him that’s in doubt atleast with me, not his atheleticism.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 12:11pm #651130
apb540ParticipantI hear ya on that. Barnes still has a lot of improving to do on his ball handling, but once he gets that it is game over for everyone else.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 12:14pm #651131
rtbtParticipantIt would be a lot more enjoyable game if the CBS director wasn’t semi-incompetent. Why is he giving us a long distance, ultra wide, panoramic view of the court? It’s like watching the game from high up in the balcony. He seems much more interested in showing us the crowd as opposed to the game.
The camera work in the Baylor-Kentucky game was vastly superior. In that game the director brought the viewer down on the court and it made the experience so much better.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 1:16pm #651150
Ghost01ParticipantHarrison Barnes is not that special of a player, and won’t be at the next level. This guy has no ability to create his own shot, doesn’t make anyone better, and isn’t particularly a very good defender. He’s a streaky shooter, and his iso moves are mediocre at best. Anyone who honestly thinks this guy will make a huge impact in the NBA, or thinks hes the #2 pick, is going to be sorely disappointed.
Nice 2 dunks. 5/14, 0/5 from 3. Loss. He needed to step up with Marshall out and couldn’t.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 1:18pm #651156
mosdefParticipantany perimeter player that doesnt put the ball on the deck to get into the lane will always be questioned by me. he is talented but he has that Duncan facial no-fire where MKG looks like he has fire and why I would want him over Barnes
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 1:25pm #651157
Ghost01ParticipantNot to mention MKG has shown great leadership, defends, wants to make players around him better, accepts being a role player, but at the same time steps up and leads when it is needed, does whatever his team needs of him (a few huge rebounding games from him this year) and more. Harrison Barnes? He takes shots.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 1:27pm #651159
D7H7NParticipantFvckSwag666 – Did you not see Barnes earlier? He stopped taking jumpers and started to attack the basket. He managed to get to the rim quite easily against a tight Kansas defense. His only issues right now are too many contested jumpers and he still can’t dribble the ball.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 1:36pm #651162
franfranParticipantHarrison Barnes, right now it’s the best player of his class
I see in Barnes, 2 MVP and 3 NBA Championships
Career Stats 25,3 ppg 6,3 rpg 3,4 apg 1,2 spg 0,6 bpg in 38,4 mpg and 10+ All-Star
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 1:41pm #651168
aamir543Participant^Fran Fran, I like you’re analysis, but somtimes I think that if all your predictions came true, than we’d be looking at 245-267 games.
And be carefull with throwing around those averages. 25 ppg for a career is Kobe’s career average, granted that was because of of his slow start to his career, but be carefull, cause career averages those high usually imply that that his prime consisted of several 28-29 ppg seasons, considering the curve is that you start slow and end slow.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 1:48pm #651169
mikeyvthedonParticipantMichael Jordan averaged 38.2 minutes per game for his career. That is 15th All-Time. I can’t see Barnes averaging close to that for his career. 25.3 ppg? Kobe Bryant is at 25.4 ppg for his career, albeit his first couple of seasons brought it down quite a bit. Still, really? Melo is at 24.6 ppg right now (will more than likely finish his career around 22-23 ppg). I am not comparing the two, but I will say I flat out do not think Harrison Barnes will score points like Melo.
I think Harrison is a good player, but I am highly skeptical of his being a franchise player. I still would take him top 5 or so, because if people have read what I have written about "franchise players", they are few and far between. There may not be ANY in this class. That does not mean there will not be All-Stars, there will. But, Harrison Barnes certainly does not look like a guy who is going to carry a team on his back without a great deal of help.
He struggled mightily without Kendall Marshall and has a really hard time creating for himself. Certainly not on the level of a Kobe Bryant or Carmelo Anthony, both of whom are miles ahead of him at breaking down opponents off of the dribble. He is a great shooter, but you need more than just that to be a great player. He will be one of the better scorers to come out of this draft in my opinion, but I have a hard time seeing him carrying a championship team. With LeBron James and Kevin Durant around? Just does not appear to be on that level.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 1:49pm #651171
franfranParticipantby many negative points put me not going to make me change my mind, much less going to get I do not like Harrison Barnes
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 1:54pm #651170
TheDagger40ParticipantIf that happens, he needs to get drafted by a good team like the Lakers (to learn under the wings of Kobe and Artest). He can’t change the face of a lottery team by himself. And I think Anthony Davis deserves best in his class.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 2:03pm #651182
akhan786Participant@franfran Can you please clarify what you meant when you said Barnes was the best player of his class?
If you’re talking about highschool class…then a guy named Kyrie Irving might disagree with you.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 2:09pm #651181
mikeyvthedonParticipantJust feel your statistical projections are insanely high and that they will not happen. I am taking a risk saying that. You are taking a risk by writing them and than giving him accolades before knowing what team he will be on. I think CAREER averages balance out eventually. I mean, if you say he averages this for a season, that is a great season.
I just do not think he will have a career that makes him maybe one of the 20 best players to ever play in the NBA. I think he should shoot for top 20 player in the league first. I mean, averaging 25 ppg is something that less than 10 players have done for their career. I just do not know how he is going to do this over a career, as I think that better SF’s have not come even close.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 2:23pm #651187
JoeWolf1I saw Travis Releford prove he could be an NBA caliber perimeter defender. I’m a Barnes supporter, I think he’ll be a more prolific scorer in the NBA because he has the total package of shooting. 3 point, mid-range and the athletic ability to make big plays around the goal, but aside from his spurt at the end of the 1st half…Releford handled him.
I’ve been very vocal about how I think Kim English can find a nitch in the NBA as a perimeter defender and after seeing Releford on Barnes tonight, I feel after next year he can be a similar prospect. A guy taken in the 2nd round, who can shut down big wings and hit open jumpers.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 3:10pm #651214
bjcart53ParticipantBarnes is not very good.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 03/25/2012 - 3:55pm #651239
Pistol Pete. The PelicanParticipantMy thing is why does no one harp on Harrison Barnes for not taking over games and reaching his potential? Perry Jones(albeit he deserves some criticism) gets criticized every game even when he has a game like 31 and 11, but Harrison Barnes disappears just as much as PJIII, he shoots 5-17 and has 17 points and people look at him like he’s the next Kobe. I personally think they have both been disappointments in college so far. I do think they will both factor in the NBA in some kind of way though. Not mentioning stats or accolades but I think they can help their team. On what level? I don’t know.
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