The Great Depression stage for Harrison Barnes
The once former #1 HS player in his class was highly regarded as the future #1 Overall pick in the 2011 NBA Draft if he came out. Instead of coming out due to lockout discussions Barnes chose to remain at Chapel Hill. The one thing I would like to know from you all on the forum, is it depressing as a Barnes follower to see him fade in exposure of draft talks as the #1 Overall pick? Also how do you all think Harrison is taking all of this draft talk in this year, now that he is no longer the man?
I don't think he was ever ahead of Anthony Davis, so it should be no surprise to him that he isn't in the conversation to go #1. He should still go top 5 though.
You're over reacting. being the #1 overall pick doesn't necessarily guarantee stardom in the NBA- just ask Olowakandi, lmao. He's still a lock to go top 7ish, he's still a very good player. I think he wasn't necessarily "The Man" at UNC either- there were quite a few guys on that team that could step up any given day. If anything, UNC wasn't necessarily the best choice for his stock, just because he wasn't featured in the offense as much as he could have been, and he didn't really get to do anything other that catch and shoot. When he's playing at the NBA level, I'm sure coaches will be sure to devote more practice/game time to building his handling and playmaking skills.
It is never depressing to be drafted into the NBA...let alone in the top 7 (i think he's guaranteed for that.)
It's always a plus to be selected in the Lottery, but once your stock takes a hit it can be a bit discouraging. I'm quite sure Kyrie Irving wouldn't have had a top 3 look in this class.
Kyrie Irving averages 18, then Knight, Brooks, Walker and K. Thompson average 12. Barnes will average at least 16 ppg next year.
I think Barnes, PJ3 and Terrance Jones will measure well, I think suprisingly well. So many guys are really good but undersized in this draft. Shooting guards Beal and Rivers are slightly unsized at the 2. Sullinger and Robinson lack length at the 4. As good as MKG is think about how much better, skilled, fluid, more athletic and longer Rudy Gay is as a 3. He may be a little undersized at 3 but he could be a great size 2 guard if his shot improves.
Barnes has legit size and that will help his status as the draft nears. Noway he gets past Toronto.
If he is smart he is reading and posting every article he can around his room. Listening to every tv and radio show talking about how he has fallen off and dribbling and working his ass off. Hell he could be on here reading posts. If he truly a competitor and smart as people say then he is using this as motivation. Much like Paul Pierce did when he dropped to number 10. While he didn't have the best tournament its pretty obvious when you see that before his ankle injury he was shooting 49% fg and 45% 3ptfg and getting to the basket, and after his injury Jan 31 droped to 38% and 28%. and had trouble getting to basket. That it affected him. I still think when it all shakes out years from now he top wing player in the league and will proven a lot of doubters wrong.
I like the way you think chocboywndr to help fuel his drive.
I like the way you think chocboywndr to help fuel his drive.
Joakim Noah was regarded as the top pick after he lead Florida to a championship his sophmore year and he end up going 9th a year later. He wasnt as highly regarded as Barnes but still he went from possibly number 1 to 9th. Everyone says his handle is weak that not the case entirely. Barnes is never going to be a guy who crosses someone over in an iso situation. He has a nice handle to drive and get to spots he can be successful at like Paul Pierce. Which he showed in the tournament his freshman year, and early on this year before his injury.
Oblivously the ankle injury played a huge role in his percentage going down. He was never fully the same after it and then he re-injured it atleast once or twice the rest of the season. AS a fan i hate that he fell from possibly #1 to top 7 but he going to be the same player whenever he's picked.
Even though Kyrie Irving is a Dukiie i hope him and Barnes are teamed up in Cleveland.
Absolutely not. Because I see Barnes for what his is and the crap system he played in under Roy Williams. Same thing happened with Paul Pierce, and not coincidentally under Roy. If Barnes wouldve played for Calhoun, Izzo, or Self, he wouldve looked like a monster. True, you can never put him over Davis due to the length and shotblocking of the Chicagoan....but Barnes is going to be a steal and a sleeper.
I can tell you this as well, although there is no comparison with Roy Williams to Dean....still, UNC's system has never been one where a player can go ape-wild. There have only been a few 20 plus ppg scorers there. All of them have had very long productive NBA careers. The only one I can remember that didnt was Joe Forte, but he had off-court issues.
Players from UNC, probably more than any other school, usually become better pros than they were in college. Vince never avg more than 15ppg at UNC, first year in the NBA avg 18ppg, followed by 25ppg, then by 27ppg. Stack avg 19.2ppg his last year at UNC....in the NBA one year he avg almost 30ppg. We can go on and on and on.
I think a lot of people like to use Marvin Williams as a scapegoat, but he really isnt a bad NBA player. He didnt start in college but is a starter in the pros and every year outside of rookie season has avg in double figures. He has not been the superstar that scouts predicted, but he is servicable....and at this level thats an achievement.
Barnes will follow in a great line of scorers from UNC....even from the Roy Williams regime. He will be a good player off his current skillset alone, but if he gets that handle right???? Watch the f**k out.
First, I wish I had his "problem" and was a top 7 NBA pick.
I still think Barnes will be a very nice player. I would also love to see him in Cleveland due to playing with a great young PG in Irving. I think Harrison Barnes still has star potential and could become an all star in the league. I am also a huge fan of Kidd-Gilchrist, but I would take Barnes over MKG if I was a GM..
I dont think Barnes is worried. Like everyone said, he is going to be a top pick. Im sure he is smart enough to know that wing players usually dont go ahead of inside players unless they can really penetrate
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