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Granger for Rubio/16th and 23rd pick...Comments please...

The Wolves loved Granger...tried to dangle Big Al to get him...I think it was the fact the Pacers had to take on salary that made deal fall thru...To Me the Pacers would have to take a deal that gave them Rubio and 2 mid first rounders for their big money player...They're pick go Henry or Monroe if he's still there...Get a big like Udoh/Davis or Patterson at 16 and get Hayward at 23....Rubio,Henry,Hayward,Murphy,Hibbert, Rush and Udoh going forward...They wait out Murph and Dumblevy's contract and fill the needs later...Granger would be like their free agent signing...Lets face it..Minny is not a Free Agent's destination so get a big time scorer if you can...They'll go Big and Get Cousins to play the 5 and draft guard in the 2nd round...(Stephenson and Crawford)


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y they always giv u minuses

y they always giv u minuses

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You dont have to add anything

You dont have to add anything Granger or Gay is what Minny needs in some way shape or form to go with Rubio. I would not give up Rubio to the Pacers for Granger. That is why you would get Granger.

But on the flip side if I am Indiana I do not trade Danny Granger at all, much less to Minnesota unless it is a package of Al Jefferson, Corey Brewer and the rights to Ricky Rubio, (if Minny is that dumb to do that) or I WOULD SETTLE FOR JONNY FLYNN INSTEAD if I am Indiana if I can get Al Jefferson for Granger. Forget Rubio.

Then use that lottery pick on Gordan Hayward and throw Rush at SG, Dunleavy at SF until Hayward is ready and Flynn at PG. I would also try to make Minny take TJ Ford off my hands...You can make this work. Both teams have a lot of stuff to throw around to make it work. If Kevin McHale was still the GM he and Larry Bird could have worked something out...

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Portland of the East

This Trade would be good for both parties but add Kevin Love and have the Pacers add Jones or Dunleavy

Guards
Rubio
Rush
Crawford
Henry
Hayward

Bigs
Love
Udoh
Hibbert

Trailblazers of the East

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Well

Well i like it! if it worked out i think the Wolves would get alot better!

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interesting trade idea, but

interesting trade idea, but something that i continue to stress on here is the salary cap. you guys got to think about it when proposing trades, this trade isnt possible due to the salaries not matching up at all.

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Yeah i have the Most Haters on DraftNet...LOL...

I make valid trades...win win for all parties and because they are not the lopsided bull&$#%#&@! every ones used to in the NEW NBA....I get minuses...Lets see if Bird or Kaun would minus me....I'd fix their horrible teams in a week....Or at least look like I was trying too.....

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The T'Wolves have cap space, so it should work out fine.

However, this screws the Pacers until Rubio comes over. Plus you took away their only bigtime scorer.

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All Day..Minny has the Space...The Deal works out

And Giving up Love and Rubio would be too much For Granger by himself...Rubio and the 16th and 23rd would be good deal for both teams...I think Minny wins with having Granger and Cousins To go along with Al and Love...And the Pacers may wait a year for cap space and Ricky but then they'll have a young core that will be ready to run...The 3 first rounders this year and 1 more pick next year and the Free Agents with the Expiring deals will bring Indy to the playoffs...

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Yo Money The Hypno Toad would drop 20 off the bench

Yeah they'd be bad but what do they have to lose...They get half a team for Granger...That's as good as the Heat/Lakers Shaq trade...I think Minny pulls the trigger...They Lose a guy in Europe and the 16th and 23rd picks for a 25 point scorer....

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If i were the pacers i

If i were the pacers i wouldnt do the trade but if i were minnesota i would do the trade

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Why Not Kane...Wher are they going with Granger

Get him gone and get something good...2 first rounders and Ricky Rubio...That's a steal...And I'm not big on Rubio either...But you get 3 players including keeping your top ten pick...That's 4 young players for Granger...

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Why would the Pacers do this

Why would the Pacers do this trade... There is absolutely no guarantee that Rubio would come over and having later picks in a weaker draft means nothing. Also if, he's not going to Minnesota, why would he come to Indianapolis? It's not like it is a bigger city.

The Pacers have made it clear they are building around Granger and a may not ever show up Point Guard and a slow moving 4 is not worth the best player on the team. Although given Bird's recent trade history...

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RUbio

Rubio is going to want to be in a big market, and who is suggesting Rubio, Love the 16 and 23 is nuts...it starts to sound like the Ricky Williams draft. Too bad that the draftnet site won't allow for trades to be illustrated by swapping spots

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Bird

I don't see why Larry Bird would ever do this. A bunch of young guys who have never played in the NBA for a proven 26+ ppg scorer who Bird himself views as a franchise player (I disagree but thats a different story). This would never go down, if he wouldn't take a proven player like Al Jeff why would he do this? It had nothing to do with Jefferson's salary and more to do with Bird believing in Granger. Bad trade, thats why I gave you a negative.

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WhyIt is not a "bad trade"

Why

It is not a "bad trade" idea at all. It is actually a classic blockbuster. Minnesota is just being stupid if they are holding on to injury prone Al Jefferson in the Western Conference!
Big Al is an Eastern Conference wide body with a old school post up game. Rubio needs Granger, you do not haggle with Al Jefferson if you Minnesota. I swear that team is run by idiots to cry over Al Jefferson when you have Kevin Love and cap space to fall back on.
No team has more ammunition to offer to get better like Minnesota. No team in the NBA! Watch the screw it up...again.
You do this in a flat heartbeat if you are the T'Wolves and you jump over hoops to get Danny Granger or Rudy Gay if you are going to keep Rubio in the West! That is a no-brainer. Why are we even discussing this if we are Minny!?
But no, you do not part with Rubio for Granger, you try to offer them Jonny Flynn, Corey Brewer, Love and a package of picks, but not Rubio.
There is nothing to think about. The team that is nuts is the Pacers for giving up Granger! Granger is a beast around the right players which the Pacers do not have...yet.
But you can replace Granger's scoring with Rush and Dunleavy if you get Al Jefferson. I bet the Wolves want Bird to take Kevin Love, but hell naw. They have the big plodder of Love in Tyler Hansborough.
Al Jefferson and that lottery pick and Corey Brewer would and should get that done for Danny Granger, their pick and then make them take a bad contract like Mike Dunleavy or Troy Murphy and leave Rubio out of it.

Al Jefferson and Roy Hibbert and Tyler Hansborough will be monsters up front. You can have Corey Brewer maybe throw in Ramon Session for TJ Ford or Dahntay Jones if you want.

Then go and pick Gordan Hayward or a Xavier Henry...and boom you have it. It is actually two teams that make great trade partners..IMHO.

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how is ricky rubio... a kid

how is ricky rubio... a kid who has never even played an nba game.. fair value for danny granger... granger is hands down one of the best in the league... seems REALLY stupid unless they can get either jefferson or love with him...

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To me it would have to be

To me it would have to be Rubio and Jefferson for Granger in order for the Pacers to have a really good look at it, but at the same time the Wolves would feel as though the Pacers are asking too much.
I just don't see it happening because with each proposal it would seem like one team is getting screwed.

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how's this...flynn/big

how's this...flynn/big al/16th for granger and 10th?..i think thats pretty fair for both sides no?..sessions can take over pg before rubio comes over...

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pacers would be insane

no way u trade an all star one of the top 20 players in the leauge for a guy u dont even know would come and play for u and 2 licks come on now

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pacers would be insane

no way u trade an all star one of the top 20 players in the leauge for a guy u dont even know would come and play for u and 2 licks come on now

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Bucksgot it

One knee injury does not make Al jefferson or any player injury prone.... Andrew Bogut it injury prone.
While Danny Granger is a fine player, he's not "all world" the way you make him out to be. Danny Granger would be a fine 2nd or 3rd option.... he's not going to get you the players you suggest.

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Once AgainIs Granger taking that team places....???

Is Rubio Really playing for that idiot David Kaun...Is Larry Bird still a legendary player that can convince a Rubio to ball for the great state of Indiana...(Home of Micheal Jackson) Lol.....Those other deals are nuts....Not Rubio( Who is never playing for the Wolves) 16th Pick ( Could get them a Power Forward or Gordan Haywood) 23rd Pick could get another Big or Wing man to run with the team) They keep their own top ten pick and get the BPA at the spot...4 players is always better 1...That's simple mathematics...Go back to school guys....Granger's production would be replaced with 4 players on good contracts...Why does ever trade one of you purpose have a team getting completely murdered for nothing....

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It's a joke that you suggest that Al Jefferson couldn't find playing time on the Pacers. The only reason the Pacers didn't make the Granger/Jefferson trade is because they were worried about Jefferson's surgery. Knee injuries typically take 2 years to heal, so Jefferson will be back to 20 and 10 if the Wolves find a couple of players to spread the floor a bit and give him some room to work.

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scarecrow... that "idiot"

scarecrow... that "idiot" david kahn has put together one of the best young teams in the league... in the next few years i think the twolves will be a perennial playoff team...

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Wolves

While I don't completely agree that Kahn has put together a team yet... the Wolves do have a building stockpile of young,talented assets. The Wolves can add a multitude of players/and assets just by facilitating s&t's and taking players off other teams rosters so the other team can clear capspace. Their are 6 or seven teams that will be looking to add even more caproom as be compete for the top freeagents. The Wolves might not be signing the Wade's or Lebrons but they will benefit in a large way because of it. Their will be more that a few teams offering young players and 1st rd picks for a chance to compete in the freeagency market. In the end, Kahn will look a lot smarter than he actually is.

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Granger is not getting traded

Granger is not getting traded by the Pacers unless they unload some more salary. Then you have a problem with other teams salaries matching up. They might take on some expiring contracts if they were able to get some picks or a couple of young guys. As much as Minny wants to trade Love I don't see him going to the Pacers because they haven't given up on Hansbrough.

Now the Pacers would LOVE to unload TJ Ford's 8 mill and might unload Granger if someone took both. I don't know of a anyone dumb enough to do it except for Bird!!

I do know that the Pacers are looking to either move up to get Monroe or move down and get Hayward or Udoh.

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