[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

It’s only the pre-season, but he looked very good tonight vs the Lakers.

He scored 26 points on 8-10 shooting. 10-11 from the line. He also grabbed 5 boards. Ebanks had nothing for him and picked up a technical after Hayward drew two consecutive fouls on him.

Defensively, he has work to do. He isn’t that strong, so he’ll be a target to get posted up as Artest did quite a few times tonight.

The Jazz may have reached for him, but it’s obvious why they picked him. He’s a perfect fit for their offense. He’s smart, understands spacing and how to cut/move without the ball. He’s unselfish and passes well… Good court vision. He can catch and shoot, or go off of the bounce. He showed good footwork in the low and mid post tonight as well.

As I’ve been saying since last summer, people are sleeping on him. He needs to get stronger and keep gaining confidence, but he’s going to be a very good player for the Jazz heading forward.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 He indeed has a very impressive and surprising showing tonight after doing nothing virtually all pre season and shooting poorly.

Big Al also is looking like a good fit in Utah. 

The Jazz are 6-0 in preseason play.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 He indeed has a very impressive and surprising showing tonight after doing nothing virtually all pre season and shooting poorly.

Big Al also is looking like a good fit in Utah. 

The Jazz are 6-0 in preseason play.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Big Al is going to be an All-Star this season. He’s moving like he was pre-ACL tear.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Big Al is going to be an All-Star this season. He’s moving like he was pre-ACL tear.

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

I cant wait to hear what Sheltwon has to say about this!! lmao!!!

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

I cant wait to hear what Sheltwon has to say about this!! lmao!!!

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Hayward could average 20 points and win ROY, and Sheltwon STILL wouldn’t show him any love.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Hayward could average 20 points and win ROY, and Sheltwon STILL wouldn’t show him any love.

[whateverParticipant]

gotta love this guy he is a fighter he carried Butler huge underdogs to a basket away from being national champs. He might not be the most gifted player but has the attitude and determination to be very good.

[whateverParticipant]

gotta love this guy he is a fighter he carried Butler huge underdogs to a basket away from being national champs. He might not be the most gifted player but has the attitude and determination to be very good.

[llperez]

liked what i saw. He plays smart and showed some good footwork around the basket with up and unders and every time he shoots you feel good about the chances of it going in, although he did get lucky with a bank in from straight away on a 16 footer. Very solid showing and the only real knock is the strenght and defense that you mentioned.

[llperez]

liked what i saw. He plays smart and showed some good footwork around the basket with up and unders and every time he shoots you feel good about the chances of it going in, although he did get lucky with a bank in from straight away on a 16 footer. Very solid showing and the only real knock is the strenght and defense that you mentioned.

[mj23mj23besteverParticipant]

fits rite into the jazz system very good shooter smart with and wiht out the ball moves very well with out the ball does as already mentioned in previous posts need to get stronger but hes just the perfect jazzz player as for big all totally loved the pick up of him imo he will be an all star year this year averaging around 19 points and 11 boards again shoot a very high fg percentage as well

[mj23mj23besteverParticipant]

fits rite into the jazz system very good shooter smart with and wiht out the ball moves very well with out the ball does as already mentioned in previous posts need to get stronger but hes just the perfect jazzz player as for big all totally loved the pick up of him imo he will be an all star year this year averaging around 19 points and 11 boards again shoot a very high fg percentage as well

[Cardinal_FanParticipant]

 Don’t get me wrong i have been impressed with Gordon Hayward and cant argue with his production so far, but i think Paul George would have been a better addition to the Jazz. He has great athleticism very long with a great frame and can also shoot the long ball. Also with his length and quickness i think under the teaching of Jerry Sloan he could help compensate for the loss of Ronnie Brewer on the defensive end, i know they have Raja Bell back but he’s not the long term answer on the wing. 

[Cardinal_FanParticipant]

 Don’t get me wrong i have been impressed with Gordon Hayward and cant argue with his production so far, but i think Paul George would have been a better addition to the Jazz. He has great athleticism very long with a great frame and can also shoot the long ball. Also with his length and quickness i think under the teaching of Jerry Sloan he could help compensate for the loss of Ronnie Brewer on the defensive end, i know they have Raja Bell back but he’s not the long term answer on the wing. 

[JoeWolf1]

 He looked very good shooting off screens last night, with his limited speed and ball handling becoming a good shooter off screens will be a big asset for his game.  I think Utah is a very good fit for him.

[JoeWolf1]

 He looked very good shooting off screens last night, with his limited speed and ball handling becoming a good shooter off screens will be a big asset for his game.  I think Utah is a very good fit for him.

[thehotblondeParticipant]

Meanwhile…. Luke Babbit the wanna-be-gangser was recording his now rap album. Great call sheltwon.

Your still my friend.

[thehotblondeParticipant]

Meanwhile…. Luke Babbit the wanna-be-gangser was recording his now rap album. Great call sheltwon.

Your still my friend.

[marcusfizer21Participant]

Derrick Rose can win an MVP and he still will never show any love… He’d always prefer Jennings and Westbrook over Rose and will find a lot of excuses about how Rose’ game has a lot of flaws…blah..blah..

Anyway, great game by Hayward tonight… It’s a small step towards earning my attention…LOL

[marcusfizer21Participant]

Derrick Rose can win an MVP and he still will never show any love… He’d always prefer Jennings and Westbrook over Rose and will find a lot of excuses about how Rose’ game has a lot of flaws…blah..blah..

Anyway, great game by Hayward tonight… It’s a small step towards earning my attention…LOL

[sheltwon3Participant]

I see some of you hating on me.  You guys are so funny.  I would get bashed for getting excited by one or two games that a player I like has during the preaseason but yall can do it.  I still stand by what I have said.  This is preseason just like when people say stuff about summer league. I am not surprised that he did this.  He was not the right pick at 9 and you guys truly know it.  I already said Utah was the best place for him because he would actually get a chance but still that was a horrible pick by them.  You don’t take a role player with a top 10 pick in the draft that came out.  Korver was a 2nd round pick and he has scored over 30 point several times but he is not someone you would build your team around and you need other guys to get the best from him.  I feel that Hayward should have been a late first round pick and so far I am looking right about that.   I never said he could not play but I said he was being overhyped.  I only said he sucked after you got offended and tried to talk him up like he is an All star which he is not.  He is a role player.  I don’t even think he will score this much come regular season.  He is a rookie and I am pretty sure he got some good shots in their offense and made them.  Matt Harpring looked good in Utah.  He looked better there than anywhere he went but no way was he a top 10 pick in a very good draft.

[sheltwon3Participant]

I see some of you hating on me.  You guys are so funny.  I would get bashed for getting excited by one or two games that a player I like has during the preaseason but yall can do it.  I still stand by what I have said.  This is preseason just like when people say stuff about summer league. I am not surprised that he did this.  He was not the right pick at 9 and you guys truly know it.  I already said Utah was the best place for him because he would actually get a chance but still that was a horrible pick by them.  You don’t take a role player with a top 10 pick in the draft that came out.  Korver was a 2nd round pick and he has scored over 30 point several times but he is not someone you would build your team around and you need other guys to get the best from him.  I feel that Hayward should have been a late first round pick and so far I am looking right about that.   I never said he could not play but I said he was being overhyped.  I only said he sucked after you got offended and tried to talk him up like he is an All star which he is not.  He is a role player.  I don’t even think he will score this much come regular season.  He is a rookie and I am pretty sure he got some good shots in their offense and made them.  Matt Harpring looked good in Utah.  He looked better there than anywhere he went but no way was he a top 10 pick in a very good draft.

[thehotblondeParticipant]

Bless you, you over the hill Luke Babbit fan-child.

You messed up with Raymond Felton, now with Gordon Hayward, sure even if hes a roleplayer hes still better than rap-star-wannabe Luke Babbitt, and how many ”role players” can score 26 points in limited minutes? if hes a role player i dont even wanna know what Luke Babbit is.

Face it, you messed up again.

[thehotblondeParticipant]

Bless you, you over the hill Luke Babbit fan-child.

You messed up with Raymond Felton, now with Gordon Hayward, sure even if hes a roleplayer hes still better than rap-star-wannabe Luke Babbitt, and how many ”role players” can score 26 points in limited minutes? if hes a role player i dont even wanna know what Luke Babbit is.

Face it, you messed up again.

[HaleParticipant]

I actually like Hayward, I think he should be a solid player in the future and will be a nice starter for the Jazz eventually.

[HaleParticipant]

I actually like Hayward, I think he should be a solid player in the future and will be a nice starter for the Jazz eventually.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 I like Hayward but I think that 9 was too high also, at least not over Xavier Henry.

But Hayward does look like the perfect fit in Utah.  But Henry would of too.

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 I like Hayward but I think that 9 was too high also, at least not over Xavier Henry.

But Hayward does look like the perfect fit in Utah.  But Henry would of too.

[McDunkin]

Id like to give a shout out to my brother-in-law Gordon, Good game man.

[McDunkin]

Id like to give a shout out to my brother-in-law Gordon, Good game man.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Looks like Gordon read my predictions and said "I must prove him right!"

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Looks like Gordon read my predictions and said "I must prove him right!"

[butidonthavemoney]

Gordon get off the internet forums and eat a friggin’ sandwich! And don’t skimp on the mayo.

[butidonthavemoney]

Gordon get off the internet forums and eat a friggin’ sandwich! And don’t skimp on the mayo.

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

ahahhaahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhhahahhahahahhahahahahhaha @mcdunkin’… dude is to funny

and btw, how did that poem go bro

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

ahahhaahahahahhahahahhahahhahahahhhahahhahahahhahahahahhaha @mcdunkin’… dude is to funny

and btw, how did that poem go bro

[McDunkin]

It went pretty good, it made her choose to accept my friend request.

So i see it like this…she wants it.

Today im on the friends list…tomorrow im watching McDunkin jr. commit to Butler.

[McDunkin]

It went pretty good, it made her choose to accept my friend request.

So i see it like this…she wants it.

Today im on the friends list…tomorrow im watching McDunkin jr. commit to Butler.

[parkerjParticipant]

"I feel that Hayward should have been a late first round pick and so far I am looking right about that."

how do you figure? i think even his biggest critics can agree he’s been a top 13 player so far…he’s top 13 among rookies in efficiency even with his offensive struggles…when you throw in that some of the guys above him on the list are 2nd round/undrafted guys who are getting way more minutes than usual from teams trying to sort out the end of their roster, he moves further up the list…

"You don’t take a role player with a top 10 pick in the draft that came out. Korver was a 2nd round pick and he has scored over 30 point several times but he is not someone you would build your team around and you need other guys to get the best from him."

if you’re hoping to build your team around guys you get with late lottery picks, you’re going to wind up with a team a lot like the Milwaukee Bucks…occasionally getting lucky/making some smart moves and becoming competitive (like now), but largely winding up picking in the mid-late lottery every year because most of the guys in that range with "superstar potential" don’t pan out at all…it’s just not realistic

and about korver, yeah he went in the second round, but a lot of that has to do with teams passing on a low ceiling guy like him in favor of higher potential guys whove since flamed out…if you re-did that draft, you could make the argument that he should have gone in the teens, and that draft is widely regarded as one of the best ever…

[parkerjParticipant]

"I feel that Hayward should have been a late first round pick and so far I am looking right about that."

how do you figure? i think even his biggest critics can agree he’s been a top 13 player so far…he’s top 13 among rookies in efficiency even with his offensive struggles…when you throw in that some of the guys above him on the list are 2nd round/undrafted guys who are getting way more minutes than usual from teams trying to sort out the end of their roster, he moves further up the list…

"You don’t take a role player with a top 10 pick in the draft that came out. Korver was a 2nd round pick and he has scored over 30 point several times but he is not someone you would build your team around and you need other guys to get the best from him."

if you’re hoping to build your team around guys you get with late lottery picks, you’re going to wind up with a team a lot like the Milwaukee Bucks…occasionally getting lucky/making some smart moves and becoming competitive (like now), but largely winding up picking in the mid-late lottery every year because most of the guys in that range with "superstar potential" don’t pan out at all…it’s just not realistic

and about korver, yeah he went in the second round, but a lot of that has to do with teams passing on a low ceiling guy like him in favor of higher potential guys whove since flamed out…if you re-did that draft, you could make the argument that he should have gone in the teens, and that draft is widely regarded as one of the best ever…

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

r u joshin’ me mcdunkin that she actually accepted ur friend request? on fb

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

r u joshin’ me mcdunkin that she actually accepted ur friend request? on fb

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

wtf… the site took bullshootin’ me into joshin’…. cmon aaron!!!!!

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

wtf… the site took bullshootin’ me into joshin’…. cmon aaron!!!!!

[stanford hoops]

Gordan looked pretty good out there. I can see him Being a mid level mike dunlevey( y’all can hate on him but when mike is healthy he can ball) Preseason is not summer leauge. Not even close. 95-99 percent of the guys are NBA players running the plays they will run in the regular season. The starters and main guys don’t play as much but they still Play about half a game and they play hard. Also the back ups play alot and play hard so what gordan did against the backups were impressive because that’s who he will be playing against during the season. There isn’t a big difference between preseason and regular season when it comes to defense rebounding scoring etc only difference is coaching because they are trying new things and playing more players, and starters playing less time. And players getting in shape but that evens out because they are all tryna get in regular season shape.  So don’t discount the stats entirely because thoses players have shown what they can do in the time they got against teams backups and in some cases starters. Might not mean it will help there team win but it does show what they can do and can’t do @sheltwon. You sticking by you’re robin lopez will be better than brook lopez this year prediction ? Cuz brook looks like he’s gonna fight to be a allstar this year. Robin not so much

[stanford hoops]

Gordan looked pretty good out there. I can see him Being a mid level mike dunlevey( y’all can hate on him but when mike is healthy he can ball) Preseason is not summer leauge. Not even close. 95-99 percent of the guys are NBA players running the plays they will run in the regular season. The starters and main guys don’t play as much but they still Play about half a game and they play hard. Also the back ups play alot and play hard so what gordan did against the backups were impressive because that’s who he will be playing against during the season. There isn’t a big difference between preseason and regular season when it comes to defense rebounding scoring etc only difference is coaching because they are trying new things and playing more players, and starters playing less time. And players getting in shape but that evens out because they are all tryna get in regular season shape.  So don’t discount the stats entirely because thoses players have shown what they can do in the time they got against teams backups and in some cases starters. Might not mean it will help there team win but it does show what they can do and can’t do @sheltwon. You sticking by you’re robin lopez will be better than brook lopez this year prediction ? Cuz brook looks like he’s gonna fight to be a allstar this year. Robin not so much

[JNixonParticipant]

Gordon Hayward is at best a Francisco Garcia type player. I still expect like 5 or 6 ppg, 2 or 3 rpg, and 1 or 2 apg as a rookie. This one big game doesn’t change that. He abused Devin Ebanks, but c’mon. Ebanks was messing up soooo bad on D and showed a bad lack of awareness that Hayward won’t see much in actual NBA games against true NBA defenders. Ebanks is probably going to be a D-League player/guy who is in and out of the LA rotation. I say don’t make crazy expectations for him, he’s not going to play a big role for the Jazz next year. He’s a 2nd or probably 3rd year "breakthrough" guy

[JNixonParticipant]

Gordon Hayward is at best a Francisco Garcia type player. I still expect like 5 or 6 ppg, 2 or 3 rpg, and 1 or 2 apg as a rookie. This one big game doesn’t change that. He abused Devin Ebanks, but c’mon. Ebanks was messing up soooo bad on D and showed a bad lack of awareness that Hayward won’t see much in actual NBA games against true NBA defenders. Ebanks is probably going to be a D-League player/guy who is in and out of the LA rotation. I say don’t make crazy expectations for him, he’s not going to play a big role for the Jazz next year. He’s a 2nd or probably 3rd year "breakthrough" guy

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