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Game 1 of Eastern Conf. Playoffs is just enforcing 2 points I have been trying to preach

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Game 1 of Eastern Conf. Playoffs is just enforcing 2 points I have been trying to preach

This game has shown me 2 things I have been preaching for a long time.

1) I don't want LeBron with the ball at the end of the game.

- He clearly could have taken an easy 12 ft. jumpshot after his man fell with 7 secs left but.......He keeps dribbling to the baseline then passes. That's not what I want to see from a superstar. Granted, he did have a great game overall, he just didn't get it done when it mattered most. He also missed 3 or 4 freethrows in the 4th.

2) Dwight Howard is garbage when his team needs him the most.

- 4 points? He again got his butt saved by Hedo and Rashard, like he has all playoffs. I don't see how anybody can call a guy who can only play 3 quarters, a top 5 player in the league. Isn't that when top 5 players are supposed to shine most. At least LeBron was dominant till the last seconds.

Please tell me if I'm wrong....I know alphamale and ch15 will.


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lol

i agree 100% with the free-throws. that was a killer. i dont agree with the rest. LBJ actually made some great plays down the stretch and made all the right decisions, i thought. everyone knows you cant go to Dwight in crunch time, so no surprise there.

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Dude he had like 30 points

Dude he had like 30 points and I am pretty sure that in the forth he was being guarded differently which opened the game up for Lewis and Hedo which is the magics game plan and most team game plan. Even with Shaq and Kobe were together , Kobe would wind up taking the last few shots. You establish the inside to open up thing for you outside player to dominate. Also Howard still makes people have to think twice about going to the basket on D whether he gets a block or not. People hate on Howard just like they hated on Shaq. I will say Shaq was a better passer and probably had a better post game but not by much early on.

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There you are...I knew you

There you are...I knew you would come. I still think the Cavs are going to win the series though. You don't think he should of pulled up once his man fell on that last play? It's just anti-climatic to me when the superstar passes instead of shoots.

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i'm not sure. i thought he had a man at his feet, which can be disconcerting when you go up for a jumper, plus another on his hip. Kobe made the right pass last night also, he just got a different result. i didnt see anything wrong with the way he played that. just make your free-throws!

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They actually threw the ball

They actually threw the ball to Shaq in the 4th during any point of his career, because he puts the ball in the bucket. I don't even remember Dwight touching the ball in the 4th. I wouldn't be so harsh on him, but yall say he is in the top 5 players in the league. So I feel inclined to scrutinize him.

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I would say top 7 but he is

I would say top 7 but he is still young and learning. he is still strong in the post and strong on D that is a good combo for a big and he can rebound and run the pick and roll pretty well and the run the floor as is athletic. His handles also are above average for a big. The Magics system doesn't get him the ball enough. Shaqs personallity demanded he get the ball. Dwight is too nice to do that even though he is a beast on the floor.

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Dwight was playing great all game

Hedo and Lewis were both huge down the stretch, but Howard is the reason they were in the game all night long.

The biggest problem with Lebron is that he losses faith in his jumper in crunch time. He always tries to force his way to the rim even when there is nothing there. The entire arena knows that he is trying to drive and it makes it easier to gaurd him. You can't give Kobe anything because he will pull up from anywhere without hesitation. And he hits his free throws.

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I agree that he is extremely

I agree that he is extremely good, but when guys say he is better than Kobe and Chris Paul it really drives me crazy. And another reason I despise him is that he has been playing 5 years and has yet to develop anything on offense, and that fact just let's me know that it's not going to happen anytime soon. I just feel that if he can go work out with KG, Timmy D, or Bosh that he would be the best player in the league besides LeBron.

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Thats my point Perez, he can

Thats my point Perez, he can only get you so far. Then he faaaddeeeesss awaaaaaay, and I don't like it lol.

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Dwight

He is not a great offensive player. But I expect him to have a huge series against the Cavs because Z can't keep up with him. He can just outquick him around the hoop. I think the Magic take this series. The Cavs amazing D dissapeared and I don't think the Magic are gonna come out that flat next game.

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Look big men take a while to

Look big men take a while to develop. Also he needs a better teacher than Ewing. Maybe Olajuwon or Robbinson can help him out but I think mainly it is the fact that they really don't go to him like they should and I believe if a post player is not getting touches he is more nervous with the ball.

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Since when is Ewing bad? He

Since when is Ewing bad? He is right under Robinson and Hakeem in the post game department. D.Howard should be soaking up everything he has to offer. He is just lazy and depends on his athleticism waaay too much, it doesn't take 5 years to develop a move. Quit trying to make excuses for him.

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LeBron is clutch

LeBron made all the right decisions down the stretch in my opinion. Drawing all the defenders in then kicking out to an open Delonte West was a great move in that situation. He looked for his shot for quiet some time. Then, I think literally four defenders caved in on him. You have to pass, great move. He wasn't looking to pass, but realized it was the best option.

Also, Dwight Howard is awesome, but is a serious liability at the end of the game. Nobody can stick up for him. His FG% is around the same as his FT%, thats impressive and pathetic at the same time. Trust me, if his FT shooting is a liability in my fantasy league, it's a liability in the NBA Playoffs.

Rashard Lewis did was he is paid to do. The dude makes twenty &$#%#&@!cing million a year! The Cavs will win the series. Orlando succeeded in what they have to do in any close game, shoot a three. In my opinion, I'd take LeBron best of seven at the wire to any of the Magics 3-pt shooters with the Cavs D.

It will be a great series though.

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It takes how long as it is

It takes how long as it is going to take if he gets it two year from now you will be like he should have gotten it earlier and Howard seems to be a good worker. Also Ewing game was more face up then actually posting up. he relied on his athleticism a lot as well. I should not have add robinson because robinson was more of a defender slash jump shooter and driver. He did that more than actually be in the post. Olajuwon would help him with his foot work which has improved and give him so moves in the post and maybe a better face up or turn around jumper. I think the Magics offense limits what we see in games from Howard. Some teams only want you to do certain things.

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Cavs should still win this

Cavs should still win this series don't get me wrong but man it is looking more and more like the Lakers are being favored again. Cavs are showing how they can't beat elite teams.

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I just thought he should

I just thought he should have just pulled up for the short jumper or went for the dunk on who ever was under the rim, because his man fell on the floor, Gortat was far enough behind him, and the guy in the corner wasn't going to get there in time to make a play on him. I think he is falling in love with passing in those situations instead of taking charge and shooting the ball.

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howard garbage???

Dude seriously howard is garbage???
you really believe that...
He may have been more of a factor late had he not gotten atleast 3 bogus foul calls (including 2 "and-1" calls on lebron)

I understand he may not be dominate in the same way as the likes of lebron, wade, melo...etc. but no big man in the league compares to Howard currently (lets face Duncan is no longer the best PF ever) which i feel makes him a top 5 talent since the center postition has been sooo important throughout history...

I guess will have to see if he can lead the troops to the chip

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Orlando wouldnt have had a

Orlando wouldnt have had a chance in game 1 if they didnt have Howard. Lebron gangsta slapped his sh*t like twice lol......

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I didn't say he was garbage,

I didn't say he was garbage, I said he is garbage in the 4th quarter. And I agree they may not have been in it if it weren't for him, but they definitely didn't win it because of him, and 2 of those 3 fouls came late in the game so it didn't influence his numbers that much. I just don't believe you are a top player if your team doesn't even look at you in the 4th. And those blocks were funny as sh1t.

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Thoughts

Howard is a great talent. And is arguably because of his position more important than almost any other player in the league. This game doesn't mean much in my opinion. I really expect the Cavs to win, wether it be in 5 games or 7. Then I still expect Cleveland to go on and challenge LA to the end, I believe LeBron will win.

Sidenote: You know what I think. Phil Jackson said before he would take Dwight Howard over anyone including LeBron to start a franchise. I'm starting to believe he has a point. Don't you think if when CP3 or DWade become free agents if they signed with Orlando (one of them) that the Magic would be perennial championship contenders? Think about CP3 and Dwight Howard together. Holy &$#%#&@!. Point is, since all-star centers are much more rare than all star guards, anyone one of them could team up with Dwight and they would most likely win plenty of rings.

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Only you could find a way to knock Dwight after he scores 30 on 14/20 shooting and gets the win, and Lebron after he drops 49 on 20/30.
Not really sure I see much point in even addressing your "arguments" any more. Clearly the last 5 seconds of any game is all that matters...sometimes I'm not sure why they even play the rest.

"It's just anti-climatic to me when the superstar passes instead of shoots." No wonder you love Kobe...he won't pass if he's guarded by everyone in the building. The open man is always the better choice, but the stars should always keep in mind that michaelds911 would rather something more exciting.

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Its funny...

Its funny to me, LeBron drove all night with defenders (including Howard) holding true to there given vertical plane, and yet he still gets to the line. If LeBron had any bball IQ, he would have finished the drive and went to the line. Howards sixth foul was one of the most bogus calls of the playoffs. However, LeBron got those all game, as long as officials give him these calls, he is unguardable (I guess not, because he lost: so that ruins that approach). He played a great game and knocked down open J after open J, but when it mattered most he passed. He knew the calls he was getting and should've used it to his advantage.

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ch15 the last 5 seconds

ch15 the last 5 seconds sometimes is the most important. It's like if I was playing baseball and I'm throwing a no-hitter through 8 innings, then in the last inning I give up 2 homers and lose, it doesn't matter what I did before that because I didn't get the job done. And you are once again throwing up their stats like it tells the whole story of the game. Why don't you mention how LeBron missed 4 free-throws in the 4th and how D.Howard only scored 4 in the 4th. Sometimes I wonder if you even watch the game, im starting think by the way you throw up all these stats that you may just look at the boxscore.

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The last 5 seconds is, and

The last 5 seconds is, and always will be, 0.2% of any regulation 48-minute NBA game. Give me the superior player over the first 99.8% of the game, and you can have any guy who you think is "better" in the last 0.2%.
Good, and even great big men, don't need the ball in their hands every possession to be effective. Tim Duncan and Shaq were never their team's undeniable first options with the game on the line.

Bottom line, your argument is that Dwight and Lebron have flaws. They are still 2 of the top 3 players in the NBA, and one of them will be playing in the Finals very soon.
I know stats don't tell the whole story...but they tell more of a story than your arbitrary opinions.

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the magic would have been

the magic would have been blown out without howard. h yea he didn't dominate the fourth quarter but he got bad foul calls all game and his game opened up rashards game. lebron and kobe make their team better by scoring then finding the open man. last night howard scored down low which eventually opened up the perimeter. give the guy some credit he just beat the playoff undefeated cavs in game 1 of the eastern conference finals. as for lebron he made the right play. he has to trust mo williams, delonte west, and z they r knockdown jump shooters that make open shots more than not.

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