Galinari To Toronto?
"Bryan Colangelo is dangling a carrot for other NBA general managers as the league’s trade deadline looms.
Colangelo said that, between now and Thursday afternoon’s deadline, he’s willing to part with one of the two first-round picks the Raptors have in June’s draft.
“We might consider doing something now with the Miami (first-round pick) if the right kind of player can be obtained,” the Raptors president and general manager said in an e-mail.
But fans looking for some major transaction to boost the sagging fortunes of the 15-41 team may end the week disappointed because there hasn’t been a lot of movement in any trade discussions.
“We are having discussions with several teams, but mostly for smaller type deals that don’t compromise our plan of acquiring future assets or creating more flexibility,” said Colangelo."
"The Nuggets are not expected to retain Danilo Gallinari, according to sources that spoke with Ric Bucher.
The Nets, Clippers, Cavaliers and Raptors are all expected to express interest in Gallinari."
Sounds like Denver wants to dump some cash on Toronto and grab a late 1st rounder for Galinari. I dont know what it would take to grab Galinari but I think he would be a good SF to have on the team, and finally give motive for Toronto to move Bargnani, although there is always that thing about them both being italian. If Toronto can get him for dirt cheap without taking on a large salary (which is probally exactly what Denver wants us to do) then I say great go ahead, but by no means should they compromise their integrity and destroy their financial flexibillity just to acquire another player that will fall right into the soft, primeter style Toronto is known for. Also Galinari wont get the same calls he got in New York flopping in a Raptors jersey, or a Nuggets jersey, or a Nets jersey.
If it was for Chandler it would be a whole different story, I would love if Toronto acquire Chandler, even if they had to bite the bullet on a guy like Andersons large contract.
Whats with Tdot and Euros?
Toronto like Euros because of the diverse communities in Toronto, Euro's know Toronto will pay them, Euro's are more likely to resign, or initially sign because they go where the money is. Also Ive heard alot of players say Toronto is a great place to play ball. The system also works great for European style players, who lack in defensive skills lol. Toronto also reminds them of European cities Ive heard. Also to a European (most of which who dont care about silly Nort American media), they dont get caught up in small markets and big markets, they just go with the qaulity of the organization and how they are teated.
Chandler would be a great fit for Toronto, Gallinari would be a good addition to their roster but Wilson Chandler would give them extra rebounding and a physical presence. I wonder if Denver will look to dump K-Mart's expiring deal with either Toronto or Cleveland for one of their exceptions.
imo that would be a great deal for toronto gallo was putting up respectable numbers already on a crowed knicks team bargs dd and gallo three nice pieces and then the raps find a center to move bars to his natural 4 spot the raps dont look too bad imo
Even if we got Chris Anderson it would be beneficial for Toronto because he is a legit defensive centre and we can switch Bargnani to the PF position. I'd much rather have Wilson Chandler, not for the fact that I don't want anymore Euros in Toronto, but that he'd be a great fit for us. I think the Raptors would have to give up some of their trade exception for this trade to work. I'm okay with this kind of trade as long as we don't give up our LOTTERY PICK!!
Toronto loves the Euros that's why! We already have such a high Italian population, why not add another one in Danilo Gallinari? We definitely need to move away from that type of style. I would rather have Wilson Chandler.
A lot depends on how Denver look to rebuild do they keep the Knicks players they have acquired and rebuild around them Lawson and Nene or do they trade some on and try and get extra draft picks in return. Again the likes of Cleveland, Nets and Toronto could be interested parties but what they might offer for say Chandler, Gallinari etc could vary. I doubt that either team would offer an unprotected first rounder for 2011 or even the right to swap picks with Denver unless it was outside say the top 5.
Of course guessing the worth of say Gallinari against say a top 5 pick this year would be very subjective. If one of the above could get Chandler or Gallinari for some combination of later picks they may own from another team then it could be a decent move by them especially if the picks are those due from Miami/Lakers etc likely to be later in the draft.
Denver are talking about trying to extend Nene so may look to use him as a building block and I can still see them looking to try and make sure they are under luxury tax this summer.
Oh I completly agree, and believe the fact that Toronto can attract Interntional players gives us a large advantage over other "small market" teams. Although Galinari would just be another player that could add to the soft rebounding, horrible defensive team that is the Toronto Raptors. Chandler is an amazing young talent, extremely versatile and somewhat of a poor mans Danny Granger. Quite honestly acquiring him would be so good o this team, he is the PERFECT SF for the Toronto system, especially with Derozan turning into one of the best mid-range players in the entire NBA.
Galinari is only 22 years old, and Chandler 23 but still as a versatile player who can get alot of things done I believe Chandler can get alot more done. I wouldnt trade Chandler unless I got an extremely good offerif I were the Nuggets.
Toronto needs to worry about getting a legit center before getting a small forward
Bargnani is going to stay in Toronto as long as BC is in Toronto. I don't have any issues with Bargnani. He's good for his price (~10mil a year) and he is still relatively young. Obviously, if he can be shipped off to improve the Raptors, I am all for it, but I just don't see it happening.
Getting Galinari would not make Bargnani expendable. He is just another Italian that BC would love to have. Galinari can be a Kukoc type of player though, so if the Raptors can get him with just part of the TE and the Miami pick, I am all for it.
The Raptors does have a young core to build around. BC is an average GM, but the idea of doing everything he could to keep Bosh made him a bad GM for the past a few years. Now that Bosh is out of the picture and BC doesn't need to do stupid moves to please a "franchise" player, he should be able to do better (or at least I hope).
I wouldn't want Wilson Chandler mainly because he probably won't want to stay in Toronto and he's on the last year of his rookie deal being a restricted FA. Galinari is probably more likely to stay at a reasonable price.
Excellent point with the contract situation. Also Chandler only gets to the line 2.5 times per game at 80%, compared to Galinari's 6.0 times per gam,e at 90%. Since Demar is more midrange, attacking the basket, getting to the foul line, and Bargnani is content playing passively, taking jumpshots and floating around the perimeter, Galinari seems like a good player to compliment both of the Raptors best scorers. He is also only 22. I hope Colengelo earns his new contract.
The 3 spot is their biggest weakness by FAR. They have little in the way of options at the 3 position currently. Gallinari would be a nice piece for them and give them a legit scoring wing in the starting lineup, which they currently do not have. Gallinari fits their system better overall in comparison to Chandler and isn't a FA at the end of the year. The question will be, what will Toronto be willing to do to get Gallinari. Will draft picks alone suffice, or would Denver look to unload a Harrington or Andersen on them? It will be interesting to see what happens here.
Dont fool yourself. Center is their biggest weakness, their starting Center averages 5 rebounds per game... They need to worry about getting a Center but they cant avoid improving the all around team just because they are waiting for a miracle appear with a good Centr. Mosgov isnt the awnser at 5 for Toronto.
I think that their SF position is pretty weak but center is by far their worst spot. I would like the trade of Gallo and Harrington for some draft picks and a player or two. Toronto, sadly, is turning into a team that won't play defense and will keep shooting the ball no matter what. DeRozan seems to be the only exception on that team..
But I like what Gallo would bring to that team, the high energy, the fact that he is willing to take it hard to the basket and get fouled; what he could mean to Toronto could be big because he could definitely help the team chemistry there and help turn things around especially if they only have to spend a few assets on him.
However, I feel like the best trade they could make at the deadline would be for a big center that likes to dunk and gobble up rebounds. Someone like Tyson Chandler or Brendan Haywood, who aren't big names and are slightly aging so I doubt the price would be too high for them.
Bargnani isn't a PF. He's a C whose a finesse player. Their wings are right near/at the bottom of the league. What they need is a physical and long PF who can rebound and do the dirty work, and is able to score in the paint or at least be somewhat of a threat to do so. Evans is a good player for them, and Johnson is a good player for them when he's playing well, but what they need is more length on the inside and neither are scoring options. Davis gives them some of what they need however he isn't as strong, but he could be that guy for them as he continues to develop his game. They have essentially nothing at the wing spots outside of Barbosa in terms of players who can consistently score the basketball, and Barbosa is obviously a defensive liability, a gunner, and often inefficient. Gallinari would fix that and give them a wing who can score inside and out, which they are really lacking.
You can cross-match him defensively to hide him a bit. But you can't just make him a PF and think you will be effective. He cannot guard the PF position and one of his main strengths, his mismatch ability, is hurt as a PF. He does not have the lateral quickness to defend PF's. And there are more offensive PFs out there than Cs. If you put Bargnani next to a long physical rebounder, you can somewhat hide the fact Bargnani doesn't bring that to the table. That's what they drafted Davis for.