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Frank Jackson

This guy could end up being a huge steal. He has very good athleticism and if duke wasn't so loaded last year he shines. It would have been in his best interests to go back to school but for some reason was convinced duval would have an impact on his game. If he was coming out next year I think he would have gone at least late lottery now a team in the early second round will probably get at least a future solid starter as a defender and possible shot maker.


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OKC at 21 is his ceiling 42

OKC at 21 is his ceiling 42 to Utah his floor.

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really?

late lottery? He's a scoring guard that can't really do much else...you think he's gonna be Kyrie then okay...

But come on he's gonna be another soft Dukie like Bobby Hurley etc.

And Duke was not stacked last year...Bolden is low energy, Giles was a shell of his potential, Tatum is a ball stopper with an inconsistent shot but wants to shoot every time he touches the ball, Grayson Allen is exposed with his inconsistent shot and inability to finish strong at the hole and inability to create for others or his own shot, and Luke Kennard....come on man....he is now late lottery? Dude is so unathletic, if he starts a game in the NBA i'll be surprised. He was slow in college! His shot is nice but nowhere near Monk or Markkanen, Dougie McBuckets or Stauskas were every bit the shooter he was and they're actually a little better sized for the NBA than cinder-block Kennard.

Not a Duke hater, but Duke was not stacked last year. Every one of their players had major flaws and they don't know how to play together. And Kennard and Allen and now Jackson were nothing special, if they were, Duke would have gotten further in the NCAAs.

So take your pick, either they were stacked, or Coach K is a terrible coach, or he isn't nearly as good as Calipari at making the 1-and-done superfreshman class thing work.

I say its a bit of both, Duke isn't stacked, and Coach K isn't that great at putting together a super freshman team and molding them all into a beautiful machien.

Jackson, Kennard, Allen, Bolden, Tatum = 0 All-stars in the NBA.

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Duke fan here...

Frank Jackson isn't a Point Guard (IDK where that idea came from. He didn't pass the ball in HS either). He's not a SG (he lacks imagination when scoring, he's more of a straight line scorer and is efficient at it). So for me he's not a combo guard. What position does he have when he's just an athletic guard (he's more a Daniel Ewing with a huge vertical)?

Frank had EVERY opportunity to be Duke's PG and he couldn't do it. It had nothing to do with us being stacked, he's NOT GOOD at anything but scoring within the offense (he couldn't get his own shot vs top teams). We lacked a great PG and that's why we failed this season. Tyler left because of Frank coming and Dennis didn't come because of Frank signing on. It was assumed by EVERYONE that Frank would be Duke's starting PG. He's really a 6'3 role player that lack the ability to play defense (every star player gave him buckets, including Dennis Smith Jr.).

Frank left because he's reached his ceiling. I don't see how he's currently considered a 1st round draft pick. He literally has no position in the NBA. He couldn't beat out Matt-freaking-Jones for PG. Go back and watch the tape. His best games came vs inferior competition and he showed no pro level moves scoring the ball. He has great fundementals, but lacks a basic imagination to be a scorer. He's similar to Avery Bradley (coming out of college) on offense, but is a victim defensively.

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Ya'll overhyping this

Ya'll overhyping this dude..He's not a PG and he's a SG who can't shoot..Can develop into a decent bench player. He reminds me of Jerryd Bayless.

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Jarryd Bayless is an

Jarryd Bayless is an excellent comp

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Bayless was a better scorer

Bayless is also a better passer than him as well. Frank averaged 1.7 assists a game this season. He barely averaged any assists in HS too.

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Definitely not a point guard,

Definitely not a point guard, but potentially a solid player in the league. There were talks that Utah gave him a promise in the first round, although that's up in the air given his recent foot surgery. Perhaps they make the pick at 30?

Very disappointed that he didn't stay in school, although our system didn't really fit him. I was expecting him to be a sleeper off of some great HS all-star game performances for us this season. Was mostly used as a 3 and D guy to give Matt Jones/Grayson/Luke relief. He did show some signs of being able to take over games late in the season though. I also have to disagree with the dummy that said he can't shoot. Couldn't be further from the truth.

Was poised for him to return and have a breakout season and potentially crack the loterry in 2018, but oh well.

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Someone likes him

Somebody likes him. He shut it down after the first day of the combine and signed with an agent. That means he has a promise somewhere in the first round, with a team he likes, and at a spot where he feels his rookie contract is enough or he has a promise in the second round where the player and agent are free to negotiate. These days some early second rounders end up making more than the guys at the bottom of the first round because the first round contracts are set amounts based on the number they are picked at.

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I mean Duke was so loaded

I mean Duke was so loaded last year they went 11-7 in the ACC and lost to a football school in the second round of the toruney...

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the only reaon he declared

the only reaon he declared was because Allen said he was returning, and more importantly with Gary Trant Jr coming in would equate to Jackson getting no more playing time than he did in his freshman season and probably having even less of a shot at the first round than he does right now.

Some teams like his athleticism and versatility as a scorer but other than a few teams in the late first like OKC,Utah and maybe Orlando who might see him as worth the pick if their 1st and 2nd options are gone already ...there really isn't much attn beyond the first round bubble. The fact he didn't do workouts due to injury could allow him to slip some.

I think unless he did get a promise as high as OKC at 21 (unlikely) he will fall to the 2nd maybe as far as 42 where I think Utah would call it a steal.

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And beat UNC twice...

And beat UNC twice...

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yep in acc tourney duke got

yep in acc tourney duke got the 2nd win against UNC ( they lost to them in 2nd reg season meeting f.jackson went 4-9 15 points ) in the acc tourney F.Jackson went about the same 4-11 with 15 points in the win. In the first meeting with UNC he scored 11 points on 4-4 shooting. He avg 11 ppg shot 39% 3's in 25min a game in his freshman yr.

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