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    dolla130
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    1,Deron Williams, Utah Jazz
    He isn’t the best at any single thing. He’s not the greatest shooter or passer or defender or ball-handler. Hey, no one’s perfect. But when you combine all of the traits necessary to be a great point guard — skills, size, speed, durability, leadership — Williams is the closest you get to perfection. He does everything well, especially when it comes to executing Utah’s ultra-efficient offense. At 26, he’s in his prime at a time when many of the league’s best point guards are either very young , very old or, in Paul’s case, coming off an injury. For a few more years at least, Williams and Paul should battle for head of the class at this position.
    2,Chris Paul, New Orleans Hornets
    Paul emerged as the NBA’s top point guard three seasons ago, finishing second in the MVP voting thanks to his lethal offensive skills, defensive thievery and irrepressible personality. He’s still sensational at 25 but a few things have changed beyond his control. A knee injury cost him half of last season, so his health remains a question mark. The New Orleans roster has regressed around him, so the Hornets are no longer contenders. Paul isn’t the happy-go-lucky star steering a franchise on the rise. He’s disgruntled and probably planning his escape. As long as he’s healthy, he can re-establish himself as the league’s premier point guard, but he needs to prove it all over again.
    3,Derrick Rose, Chicago Bulls
    There are parts of Rose’s game that are suspect (outside shooting), merely average (passing) or overrated (defense). But the overall package is still something special. His size, strength and speed allow him to get to the rim and finish; his 20.8 ppg were tops among point guards last season. He’s best in transition but should be deadly running the pick and roll with Carlos Boozer. At 21, he still has plenty of room for improvement, which is good since he’ll have to improve quite a bit to crack the top two at this position.
    4,Rajon Rondo, Boston Celtics
    It’s hard to figure where to rate Rondo. His strengths are so strong, his weaknesses so weak, that he’s unlike any other point guard in the league. We know he can run and penetrate and dish and defend as well as anyone. He also proved himself as a leader in last season’s playoffs, driving the Celtics to the verge of an unlikely title. But we also know that he can be left wide open and can’t be counted on to make pressure free throws. Until his shooting touch becomes adequate, he can’t be rated any higher than this.
    5,Steve Nash, Phoenix Suns
    Offensively, he’s as brilliant as ever. The best shooter and passer in the league, Nash remains a maestro at running an offense, especially in transition. Even with Amar’e Stoudemire in New York, you can count on Phoenix to keep piling up points. But at 36, Nash has lost a step on defense, leaving him with none. He can’t stop any of the young guns at point guard who have entered the league in the last five years. Then again, they can’t stop him either.
    6,Russell Westbrook, Oklahoma City Thunder
    This seems a bit high for a 21-year-old who can’t shoot and is still learning the nuances of the position. But how many NBA point guards are as electric as Westbrook? His energy, defense and fire are a nice complement to Kevin Durant’s cold-blooded scoring sprees. It’s also hard to complain about his production (16.1 ppg, 8.0 apg, 4.9 rpg) or his upside. Westbrook may not be an elite PG yet, but as he showed for Team USA in Turkey, he’s a difference-maker who does much more good than harm.
    7,Chauncey Billups, Denver Nuggets
    Since arriving in Denver two years ago, Billups has given the Nuggets all the stability, leadership and production they sorely needed. He even averaged a career-best 19.5 points last season. And yet … Billups turns 34 this month. He slowed down at the end of last season, contributing to Denver’s collapse, and was torched by Deron Williams in the playoffs. He still has the moxie and skill to get the job done, but he probably can’t keep things from going south if Carmelo Anthony is unhappy and the Nuggets start to unravel.
    8,Tony Parker, San Antonio Spurs
    If you’re sure that Parker’s best years are behind him, you may be confusing him with teammates Tim Duncan and Manu Ginobili. Yes, Parker’s numbers fell as he hobbled through last season with knee and ankle problems. But he’s only two years removed from a career-best season (22.0 ppg, 6.9 apg) and three removed from winning the Finals MVP. At 28, Parker should be in his prime, but it all depends on his wheels. If he can’t run like he used to, maybe Eva Longoria’s husband really is washed up.
    9, Tyreke Evans, Sacramento Kings
    The 2010 Rookie of the Year isn’t a true point guard, but he’s Sacramento’s primary playmaker as well as its main scoring option. At 6-6 and 220 pounds, Evans is an irresistible force driving to the basket, averaging more than 20 points despite an erratic jumpshot. He’s also a willing passer (5.8 apg) and capable rebounder (5.3). If he can improve his long-range accuracy even a little bit, he’ll be a nightmare to defend for many years.
    10,Jameer Nelson, Orlando Magic
    Nelson gets the No. 10 spot in a tough call over Devin Harris (Nets), Jason Kidd (Mavs), Stephen Curry (Warriors) and John Wall (Wizards) because we’re expecting a bounceback season from Orlando’s mighty mite. He has struggled ever since injuring his shoulder in February 2009, but before that Nelson had emerged as a deadeye shooter, a sturdy defender and Orlando’s emotional leader. For the Magic to be a true contender again, he needs to re-assert his leadership and take control of the offense from Vince Carter.

    i really agree with this list except tyeke and nelson i would have put jason kid and steph curry there because reke isnt a PG and jameer nelson is not a top 10 pg

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  • #403652
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    Platypus
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    it should be 1a and 1b not 1 and 2

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  • #403658
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    getacomb

    but as much as i love jameer dating back to the St Joes days, def. not a top 10 pg in this league. Steph Curry or i would even put John Wall on that list. and J Kidd is not the same anymore, his defense is about the level of Steve Nash’s, i don’t think he should be on the list either

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  • #403661
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    tigers04
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    I like curry a lot but idk if after one season of playing on GSW that I would say he’s a top 10 point guard..will he be? Absolutely but let the kid win about 40 games as a pg first

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  • #403663
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    SwatLakeCity
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    Could not agree more tigers04. I would have put Jason Kidd and Devin Harris for the last 2 spots not Evans and Nelson or Kidd and Curry.

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  • #403683
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    llperez

    yeah, nelson probably shouldnt be on there. I think either devin harris or aroon brooks should have that 10th spot.

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  • #403716
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    DanEboy
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    Jennings will break out this year with the team he has around him. His shot selection will be much improved in his second year.

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  • #403719
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    omphalos
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    Aaron Brooks should be in there over Nelson. He’s a great shooter, brilliant penetrator, and while he is more of a scoring PG so is Nelson. Hard to say that Brooks isn’t better.

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  • #403725
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    bobbyb
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    still the best

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  • #403745
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    Malik-Universal
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    this list blows

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  • #403840
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    j1232e
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    D-WILL will break away from this so called 1a ab thing. D-will has owned paul in team on team matchups, someting like 14-2.

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  • #403844
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    WHEN BOTH WERE HEALTHY, this CP3-DWill debate wasn’t even close. Let’s just remember that.

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  • #403868
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    butidonthavemoney

    Uhhh…

    That has been disproven time and time again.

    It’s a common misconception among Chris Paul fans, but many people have said that Deron Williams has been the best point guard in the NBA since before Pauls injury.

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  • #403904
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    Many people might have said it but I never heard Williams ever called a top 5 player. Paul has been called a top 5 player alot when he was healthy.

    I never saw Williams as a top 3 MVP candidate, I saw Paul

    Alot of people might have said it but not enough to get attention like it is now.

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  • #403911
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    butidonthavemoney

    Chris Paul finished 2nd in MVP voting several years ago. Deron Williams has since surpassed Paul in the eyes of many.

    This happened before Chris Paul’s injury, or New Orleans fell out of the playoffs.

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  • #403912
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    j1232e
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    williams plays in utah,every one hates utah for some reason. If williams was playing in another city he would be the shitz

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  • #403914
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    I don’t hate Deron Williams. He’s a very good player. I say he’s a Elite point guard.

    My reason why I say Paul is better is because he had amazing seasons when he was healthy. He was the main reason New Orleans became a playoff team. Not only did he help David West but he lifted a city in my eyes.

    Chris Paul had:

    21ppg, 11apg, 4rpg and 3spg in 07
    22ppg, 11apg, 5rpg and 3spg in 08
    18ppg, 10apg, 4rpg and 2spg in 09 ( only played 45 games)

    I just feel he’s better.

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  • #403915
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    j1232e
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    just look at head to head, I don’t have the stats but DWILL destroyies cp3 every head to head matchup. THAT IS ALL I GOTS TO SAY!

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  • #403919
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    That’s head to head. D-Will is like 6-3 and bulky, Paul is 6-1. Who do you THINK is gonna win?

    Come on now.

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  • #403922
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    j1232e
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    so who is beter? Dwill has proved he can dominate paul!

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  • #403927
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    But that’s one on one.

    If I’m building a team where I can have one or the other, I’ll take Paul.

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  • #403929
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    j1232e
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    Thats just your opion man! I’ll take Dwill. Both are great!

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  • #403934
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    butidonthavemoney

    I’m not saying your wrong, but you made it seem like Chris Paul (when healthy) is the clear-cut better player. Which is not true.

    As most people will point out, there is no better right now. Just preference. I prefer Deron Williams.

    I don’t think that Deron Williams will separate himself in the way that my fellow Jazz fans want. He could average 25 points per game if he wanted to (as could Chris Paul), but Deron Williams is a team player. He is the orchestrator of the best passing (by far), and most efficient team in basketball. He dominates the other top PGs (Derrick Rose and Chris Paul get destroyed by D-Will) and he is a true leader.

    People say that he just has more talent around him, but do you think it’s a coincedence that all of these undrafted players and second rounders play so well on the Jazz? Maybe it’s because they have somebody who makes them better. That’s Deron Williams.

    I’ll take Deron Williams over Chris Paul or Derrick Rose any day. But I understand why some people prefer Paul, and others would prefer Rose.

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  • #403935
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    j1232e
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    When boozer was affraid, who scored 25 ppg.in the playoffs while average 11 ass. a game WHO! WHO! Ow D-Will!

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    butidonthavemoney
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  • #403962
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    OhCanada-
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    ButIdonthavemoney will you join our league.

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  • #403967
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    j1232e
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    is this draft happening tonight or what!

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  • #404020
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    Hale
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    It’s not like Rose did all that terrible against Deron Williams last year. 22 ppg 4 rpg 7.5 apg while shooting over 50%
    Williams got 24.5 ppg 3.5 rpg 10 apg so it’s not like it was that far of a margin. Williams did shoot an unheard of 77% though.

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  • #404027
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    Malik-Universal
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    mr knicks has a point imo…. paul was the greatest PG in the world b4 he got hurt…. it wasnt close imo

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  • #404072
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    butidonthavemoney

    The key acronym being, "IMO".

    Experts and fans alike were split on the subject before Paul’s injury (as I showed above), and they remained split after. Somehow people try to use Paul’s injury as an argument to why he is better.

    And yupyup, the Jazz also won both games. I was aware of the statistics and I still feel that Deron Williams dominated the Bulls and Derrick Rose.

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  • #404119
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    dolla130
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    before the injury IMO there was no one ahead of each over paul and williams were neck and neck williams being the better scorer with the ability to pass and paul the better passer with the ability to score they are the 2 best pgs in the league and it did come down to what you wanted but now williams is clearly the best in the league FOR NOW! i think this is the year to really see who is the best barring they both stay healthy
    @butidonthavemoney
    yeah Deron dominated the bulls but Rose played well better then i thought and yeah williams outplayed him and paul ,but rose outplays every other PG including paul so does that make him the number 2 PG NO sometimes head to heads are misleading its like melo V lebron ,melo head to head beats lebron all the time both playing well melo just picks up the wins tho but he is not better then lebron at all. same goes for deron and paul

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  • #404120
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    Hale
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    I like how you said it. Williams dominated the Bulls, not Rose.

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  • #404121
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    Im Your Father
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    That’s not how I would characterize their games at all. I would say they were pretty much equal passers and scorers. Saying Deron Williams is a scorer with the ability to pass suggests that he is more of a combo, when in fact he is as much of a pure point guard as their is in the NBA. I would say that Paul and Williams are equal when it comes to vision and passing ability.

    I would also say that Paul is as good a scorer as Williams, just in a different way. Paul has posted slightly higher scoring averages for his career.

    Personally I always preferred Williams, but I acknowledge that they are essentially equal and that it’s a 1a 1b type of situation.

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  • #404123
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    dolla130
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    deron is the better scorer because of his ability to score in and out and his ability to post up opposing PGs and he is a better three point shooter then paul and in college he was a combo and in the pros he is combo just a really gifted combo and has the ability to pass the ball very well but paul is the better passer and his ability to make bumbs look really good is astounding he mad tyson chandler a threat david west an all star the hornets as a whole a champion contender, deron made utah better but what paul did in N.O was magical

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  • #404126
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    pitbull
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    the way i see it, deron is more likely to have a big game or take over a game, but paul is more consistent. He rarely takes bad shots and really knows how to run a team. I would feel more confident with paul but you cant say one guy is clearly better

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  • #404132
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    j1232e
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    When he undercut DWill and rolled his ankle in preseason! It took almost all season for dwill to get back to full strength, yet he still beat up chris paul. Come on dwill has been injured also!

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  • #404148
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    dolla130
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    how does that make rose a chump i doubt he did it on purpose, players get hurt and deron has been injury but he never missed half the season i doubt anyone was taking shots at D,howard for knocking rose out the air twice!!! and him hurting his hip and wrist or when melo landed on kobes foot and twisted his ankle these things happen players land on each others feet or get knocked down injuries are things that come with the games some being more serious then others

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  • #404330
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    butidonthavemoney

    Derrick Rose really screwed us up that year. D-Will didn’t recover from that injury until halfway through the season. Cost him an all-star bid.

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  • #404364
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    dolla130
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    not really the year before last the west was really loaded in that allstar game that obviously some people would be left off carmelo anthony was the best SF in the west since being drafted and has only 3 All star games under his belt and was left off the team last season and if deron deserved it over other guys he would have been in that game injured or not and u can argue the only reason he made it this year was because pual,kobe and brandon roy were all hurt

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  • #404413
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    butidonthavemoney

    No you can’t.

    I seriously bet you can’t.

    Go ahead and try to make that argument. You’re on the spot now.

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  • #404427
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    Mr. 19134
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    I would take Deron Williams Over Brandon Roy all day.

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