[cheetosjalapeno17Participant]

 Lets say we strike out on Ben Simmons, given the choice, would you forfeit the pick this year for a chance at Josh Jackson, Harry Giles, Dennis Smith Jr. or would you pick a prospect from this draft class?

Honestly, I’m not so hot on any of the prospects in this class aside of Ben Simmons. Jaylen Brown maybe the second best choice because of his insane ahtleticism but I don’t see a superstar with him. Not sold on Skal and Ingram. The prospect I’m really enjoy watching is Jamal Murray, who looks so smooth, but we already have D’angelo, so yeah. 

If we get a chance next year for Josh Jackson, That would be amazing, but I might not be able to survive another horrible Lakers season. 

So what are your thoughts? Would you rather have a chance for Josh Jackson but stand another bad lakers season or pick a non Ben Simmons prospect this upcoming draft? And if you go for he second option who do you plan to take?

I know this is way to early to think for the draft, but you can’t help but look forward to the draft with this current crap disguised as a Laker season. 

#FireByronScott

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Well, if they land the second or third pick and Simmons is already off the board they will have to pick somebody unless they want to trade the pick. It’s not like they could just say "we don’t like what we see, we’ll wait til next year." Skal, ingram, brown, and bender could all be possibilities and all have potential to be very good NBA players imo. I would argue strictly from a fit standpoint, any of those players might actually mesh better with the young guys they are currently building around than simmons would. And there is no guarantee that they would end up getting Jackson anyway if they lose their pick.

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Well, if they land the second or third pick and Simmons is already off the board they will have to pick somebody unless they want to trade the pick. It’s not like they could just say "we don’t like what we see, we’ll wait til next year." Skal, ingram, brown, and bender could all be possibilities and all have potential to be very good NBA players imo. I would argue strictly from a fit standpoint, any of those players might actually mesh better with the young guys they are currently building around than simmons would. And there is no guarantee that they would end up getting Jackson anyway if they lose their pick.

[cheetosjalapeno17Participant]

Yeah I know whats up, but I was just asking if you were to choose, would you get either of Skal, Ingram, Brown or Bender, or would you roll the dice to see if we have a chance on Josh Jackson? Its a pretty significiant chance in my opinion, especially if the sixers get Simmons, they might actually be better than the Lakers next year especially if the Lakers don’t add an impact free agent. 

Also curious to know who of Skal, Ingram, Brown or Bender would you pick if we landed the number 2?

Cheers and #FireByronScott

[cheetosjalapeno17Participant]

Yeah I know whats up, but I was just asking if you were to choose, would you get either of Skal, Ingram, Brown or Bender, or would you roll the dice to see if we have a chance on Josh Jackson? Its a pretty significiant chance in my opinion, especially if the sixers get Simmons, they might actually be better than the Lakers next year especially if the Lakers don’t add an impact free agent. 

Also curious to know who of Skal, Ingram, Brown or Bender would you pick if we landed the number 2?

Cheers and #FireByronScott

[ballislyfe25Participant]

Any of those four would probably work but I think Ingram would be an interesting fit. He’s got a defined position at the 3 and great height and length, obviously needing to add strength. What I like most in terms of the fit is that he does not need the ball in his hands and his shooting/ability to attack a recovering defense should work very well with Russell, Randle, and Clarkson. 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 I’ve been saying Ingram for a while on here too. Not just because he doesn’t need the ball in his hands, but because his length on defense would make up for some of Randle’s lack of length. Also, Russell, Clarkson, and Ingram could be great from 3 eventually.

You really can’t go wrong this year with a top 3 pick. I think there are some stars at the top.

[MopgrassParticipant]

 I’ve been saying Ingram for a while on here too. Not just because he doesn’t need the ball in his hands, but because his length on defense would make up for some of Randle’s lack of length. Also, Russell, Clarkson, and Ingram could be great from 3 eventually.

You really can’t go wrong this year with a top 3 pick. I think there are some stars at the top.

[ballislyfe25Participant]

Any of those four would probably work but I think Ingram would be an interesting fit. He’s got a defined position at the 3 and great height and length, obviously needing to add strength. What I like most in terms of the fit is that he does not need the ball in his hands and his shooting/ability to attack a recovering defense should work very well with Russell, Randle, and Clarkson. 

[daggers818Participant]

If we couldn’t draft Simmons, then I would not roll the dice for Jackson the following year as I believe the Lakers will improve through free agency and the continued development or equivalent trade value of their current young players thereby not putting themselves in the position of a #1 pick in 2017.

Also, if I’m not wrong, the Lakers will not receive their #1 pick in 2018 losing it to Orlando, IF they pick in 2017.  If they don’t pick in 2017, then they receive their 2018 pick and Orlando receives some 2nd rounders instead, I think.  So it would seem the Lakers would be much better served by tanking to keep their #1 pick for 2016 (a top 3 pick), lose the 2017 to Philly, and retain the 2018.  The alternative would be to lose out on 2016 to Philly, keep 2017 but probably not a top 3 pick, and lose 2018 to Orlando.  Not good.

If the Lakers don’t get Simmons, I would prefer for them to trade down in the draft and look to Boston as a hopeful trader partner for their multiple first rounders (let’ say #’s 4, 14, 20) for Lakers #’s 2 & 32?  Or, look to trade for some young all-star as I don’t really see anyone at the top of the draft other than Simmons who looks like a franchise-changing player or perfect compliment to their existing team.

Dream scenario:

Trade Williams, Hibbert, Bass, Young for anything you can get in terms of picks or salary relief this year

Send Kobe out to pasture

Fire Scott

Win Lotto

Draft Simmons

Hire Walton

Renounce/cut Huertas, Kelly, Black, Sacre, Peace, (and Young if you can’t trade him)

Sign Durant, Ezeli or Whiteside, and Zeller as key free agents

Trade Randle, A. Brown, 2016 #32 to Phoe for Warren and Booker

Starters: Russell, Clarkson, Durant, Simmons, Ezeli or Whiteside

Subs: TBD PG, Booker, Warren, Nance, Zeller 

[daggers818Participant]

If we couldn’t draft Simmons, then I would not roll the dice for Jackson the following year as I believe the Lakers will improve through free agency and the continued development or equivalent trade value of their current young players thereby not putting themselves in the position of a #1 pick in 2017.

Also, if I’m not wrong, the Lakers will not receive their #1 pick in 2018 losing it to Orlando, IF they pick in 2017.  If they don’t pick in 2017, then they receive their 2018 pick and Orlando receives some 2nd rounders instead, I think.  So it would seem the Lakers would be much better served by tanking to keep their #1 pick for 2016 (a top 3 pick), lose the 2017 to Philly, and retain the 2018.  The alternative would be to lose out on 2016 to Philly, keep 2017 but probably not a top 3 pick, and lose 2018 to Orlando.  Not good.

If the Lakers don’t get Simmons, I would prefer for them to trade down in the draft and look to Boston as a hopeful trader partner for their multiple first rounders (let’ say #’s 4, 14, 20) for Lakers #’s 2 & 32?  Or, look to trade for some young all-star as I don’t really see anyone at the top of the draft other than Simmons who looks like a franchise-changing player or perfect compliment to their existing team.

Dream scenario:

Trade Williams, Hibbert, Bass, Young for anything you can get in terms of picks or salary relief this year

Send Kobe out to pasture

Fire Scott

Win Lotto

Draft Simmons

Hire Walton

Renounce/cut Huertas, Kelly, Black, Sacre, Peace, (and Young if you can’t trade him)

Sign Durant, Ezeli or Whiteside, and Zeller as key free agents

Trade Randle, A. Brown, 2016 #32 to Phoe for Warren and Booker

Starters: Russell, Clarkson, Durant, Simmons, Ezeli or Whiteside

Subs: TBD PG, Booker, Warren, Nance, Zeller 

[SpaceghostParticipant]

Any team Drafting #2 in the Ben Simmons draft just trade it. Josh Jackson can start for the Lakers right now. He is a must and for some reason im pretty sure LA will have there Ball drawn from the Bowl for the 2017 draft. THE NBA can not continue to have the LAKERS and KNICKS both be poop at the same time. 

[SpaceghostParticipant]

Any team Drafting #2 in the Ben Simmons draft just trade it. Josh Jackson can start for the Lakers right now. He is a must and for some reason im pretty sure LA will have there Ball drawn from the Bowl for the 2017 draft. THE NBA can not continue to have the LAKERS and KNICKS both be poop at the same time. 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 What you guys COULD do is trade the pick to the Sixers for Nerlens Noel.  

Maybe the Sixers still like Skal.  So, they might have the top pick and take Ben Simmons, then they go with Skal with the Lakers pick.  If they think that Embiid is healthy then they might want to see what they can get for Nerlens Noel.

If that is too much for the 2nd pick, the Sixers should offer Saric, Robert Covington, Nik Stauskas, 26, and 27.  

The Sixers get another top pick for their core.

The Lakers get two shooters on the wing, a good prospect in Saric, along with 2 late first round picks.  

That might even be too much.  Leave out Stauskas and make the Lakers throw in the 32nd pick, cash, and a future 2nd rounder.

That would be a fair trade:

The 2nd pick, the 32nd pick, cash, and a future second rounder to Philly for Saric, Robert Covington, 26, and 27.

Philly loses a good player in Covington and an intriguing prospect in Saric.  BUT, if they feel like there is a perimeter star on the board, you have to go out and get him.  Then put that guy with Okafor, Embiid, Noel, and Ben Simmons (first pick).  They still have young, rotation guys in McConnell, Jerami Grant, and Stauskas.

In this draft you might end up with the same talent level guys at 2 or 26, 27, and 32.  Who knows.  The ’86 draft (outside the top pick) had more talent in the second round than the lottery.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 What you guys COULD do is trade the pick to the Sixers for Nerlens Noel.  

Maybe the Sixers still like Skal.  So, they might have the top pick and take Ben Simmons, then they go with Skal with the Lakers pick.  If they think that Embiid is healthy then they might want to see what they can get for Nerlens Noel.

If that is too much for the 2nd pick, the Sixers should offer Saric, Robert Covington, Nik Stauskas, 26, and 27.  

The Sixers get another top pick for their core.

The Lakers get two shooters on the wing, a good prospect in Saric, along with 2 late first round picks.  

That might even be too much.  Leave out Stauskas and make the Lakers throw in the 32nd pick, cash, and a future 2nd rounder.

That would be a fair trade:

The 2nd pick, the 32nd pick, cash, and a future second rounder to Philly for Saric, Robert Covington, 26, and 27.

Philly loses a good player in Covington and an intriguing prospect in Saric.  BUT, if they feel like there is a perimeter star on the board, you have to go out and get him.  Then put that guy with Okafor, Embiid, Noel, and Ben Simmons (first pick).  They still have young, rotation guys in McConnell, Jerami Grant, and Stauskas.

In this draft you might end up with the same talent level guys at 2 or 26, 27, and 32.  Who knows.  The ’86 draft (outside the top pick) had more talent in the second round than the lottery.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 Is this a joke?  People say Laker fans overvalue their players? Lol.

Noel is not worth the 2nd pick in any draft,  whether the Lakers have the pick or not.

The trade of the 2nd pick for those other spare parts is even more laughable.

It would have to be something like Noel plus the rights to the Lakers pick back to the Lakers for the 2nd pick.  

I don’t think Noel is worth a top 5 pick to any team personally.

 

 

 

 

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 Is this a joke?  People say Laker fans overvalue their players? Lol.

Noel is not worth the 2nd pick in any draft,  whether the Lakers have the pick or not.

The trade of the 2nd pick for those other spare parts is even more laughable.

It would have to be something like Noel plus the rights to the Lakers pick back to the Lakers for the 2nd pick.  

I don’t think Noel is worth a top 5 pick to any team personally.

 

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 How good is Saric?

If this is a BAD draft then getting Saric, Covington, and other picks might not be a bad outcome for the Lakers.

Would I rather have Nerlens Noel or Saric/Covington if I am LA?  I think I would rather take a shot at Hassan Whiteside or another free agent, and pair him with Saric and Covington…

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 For the 2nd pick… yes that is a bad outcome.  

Ask yourself.  Would you rather have Nerlens Noel or Saric/Covington if you are the 76ers?  That is most likely your answer for the Lakers as well.

Lakers can keep the 2nd pick, for someone like say Jaylen Brown.. And still have money to throw at multiple FA’s.

Saric and Convington for the 2nd pick.  lol.  

 

 

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 For the 2nd pick… yes that is a bad outcome.  

Ask yourself.  Would you rather have Nerlens Noel or Saric/Covington if you are the 76ers?  That is most likely your answer for the Lakers as well.

Lakers can keep the 2nd pick, for someone like say Jaylen Brown.. And still have money to throw at multiple FA’s.

Saric and Convington for the 2nd pick.  lol.  

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 How good is Saric?

If this is a BAD draft then getting Saric, Covington, and other picks might not be a bad outcome for the Lakers.

Would I rather have Nerlens Noel or Saric/Covington if I am LA?  I think I would rather take a shot at Hassan Whiteside or another free agent, and pair him with Saric and Covington…

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 I would rather have Saric, Covington, 26 and 27 over Nerlens Noel.

He didn’t win anything last year, and his stats are WORSE this year.  He is also 6’10 and NOT a 7 footer.

I would rather SIGN Whiteside.  Then you have Saric, Covington, and other picks to go along with Randle, Russell, and Clarkson.

 

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 I would rather have Saric, Covington, 26 and 27 over Nerlens Noel.

He didn’t win anything last year, and his stats are WORSE this year.  He is also 6’10 and NOT a 7 footer.

I would rather SIGN Whiteside.  Then you have Saric, Covington, and other picks to go along with Randle, Russell, and Clarkson.

 

 

 

 

 

[ballislyfe25Participant]

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles-lakers/post/_/id/42354/lakers-scott-said-failed-lamarcus-aldridge-recrutment-will-change-future-approach

Back to Byron Scott, some of the stuff he says in this article is unbelievable.

Lamarcus Aldridge walked out on them because there was barely any basketball in their "presentation" and they focused more on the business aspect of Los Angeles. I mean, this guy literally PLAYS BASKETBALL for a living, a safe assumption would be that he cares at the very least a decent amount about his fit and their on court plan for him. The off court, business side usually follows success ON THE BASKETBALL COURT. Lamarcus, like everyone else, knows about the massive marketing potential in Los Angeles and the lucrative extra incentives that come with being a star on the Lakers. 

Scott and the Lakers brass shows their outdated and unintelligent ways without even realizing it. Yeah Byron, maybe, just maybe, it would be a good idea to introduce an on court gameplan to players on your roster, such as D’Angelo Russell, and potential star free agents, like Lamarcus Aldridge. This guy sucks.

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 He says We’ll.  As if he will have any part of a free agent pitch next summer.  This guy is so delusional he still thinks he will have a job after this season.

Smh.

 

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 He says We’ll.  As if he will have any part of a free agent pitch next summer.  This guy is so delusional he still thinks he will have a job after this season.

Smh.

 

[ballislyfe25Participant]

http://espn.go.com/blog/los-angeles-lakers/post/_/id/42354/lakers-scott-said-failed-lamarcus-aldridge-recrutment-will-change-future-approach

Back to Byron Scott, some of the stuff he says in this article is unbelievable.

Lamarcus Aldridge walked out on them because there was barely any basketball in their "presentation" and they focused more on the business aspect of Los Angeles. I mean, this guy literally PLAYS BASKETBALL for a living, a safe assumption would be that he cares at the very least a decent amount about his fit and their on court plan for him. The off court, business side usually follows success ON THE BASKETBALL COURT. Lamarcus, like everyone else, knows about the massive marketing potential in Los Angeles and the lucrative extra incentives that come with being a star on the Lakers. 

Scott and the Lakers brass shows their outdated and unintelligent ways without even realizing it. Yeah Byron, maybe, just maybe, it would be a good idea to introduce an on court gameplan to players on your roster, such as D’Angelo Russell, and potential star free agents, like Lamarcus Aldridge. This guy sucks.

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 im not ready to give the keys to this franchise to a guy currently in high school. For now, i just want us to trade for a wing that can defend and get rid of nick young. 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 im not ready to give the keys to this franchise to a guy currently in high school. For now, i just want us to trade for a wing that can defend and get rid of nick young. 

[thetruth87Participant]

Byron Scott is as good at developing young talent as Dennis Rodman is as a 3pt specialist. They have to fire him before he permanently stunts the growth of Russell, Randle, and whoever they end up drafting in the future. 

[thetruth87Participant]

Byron Scott is as good at developing young talent as Dennis Rodman is as a 3pt specialist. They have to fire him before he permanently stunts the growth of Russell, Randle, and whoever they end up drafting in the future. 

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