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- Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 8:23am #67968
Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipantWhoa! As more details of this come out it is shaping up to be an absolute doomsday scenario for the NCAA. This isn’t necessarily surprising but the timing is awful for the college game. If you haven’t heard, basically every program that is on the list of potential national championship favorites is being implicated in recruiting violations. Players like Wendell carter, miles bridges, Colin Sexton, Kevin Knox and others could immediately become ineligible (whether you believe it’s fair or not). How does this affect the NCAA tournament and where does college basketball go from here?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 8:31am #1112515
Lotto StudParticipantI know this may seem far fetched, but has there ever been a time to where a former NBA player’s kid has been linked to a scandal in recruiting?
0- Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 8:55am #1112516
jjj10manParticipantWhat are you trying to say, that the rich kids aren’t taking money. Because that’s what it seems like.
I also noticed that when 5 star recruits go to unexpected schools (Ben Simmons, Dennis Smith, Markelle Fultz, Collin Sexton) they are likely being compensated.
0- Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 9:04am #1112517
Lotto StudParticipantJust because a kid’s parent was a former player, doesn’t mean they currently have money throughout the recruitment process. Also, scandals do not necessarily have to involve money.
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- Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 9:02am #1112518
Memphis MadnessParticipantHopefully they ban these teams THIS YEAR for BOTH the conference tourney and the NCAA tournament. Next year, too. Plus fines. Ban Carter, Jr., Sexton, Knox, and these other guys from the NCAA. … that will probably hurt their draft stock a bit.
THEN get rid of one and done.
That should clean up college basketball by about 90% (or more).
Maybe some REAL scholar-athletes get to the Final Four this year!
#thefbijustbustedmybrackets
0- Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 2:23pm #1112532
HobbyOGParticipanthaha this will not "clean up" college basketball 90% this has been going on decades in basketball and football. And I’m sure theres 100s of more players and a ton of programs that will also be leaked or haven’t been caught yet. Watch the movie Blue Chip from the 90s or the SMU football doc "Pony Express" this has been going on forever!
0- Posted on: Sun, 02/25/2018 - 4:23am #1112609
whiteflashParticipantEVERY scholarship athlete gets something, and by "every" I mean 100%. The amount of sh!t these kids are given would blow your mind. Not just money, either; cars, food, living arrangements, working girls, etc… We’re not just talking about the "stars" either. Don’t want to use his name, but I have a close connection with a 3-star recruit who went to a giant Big 12 school as a QB who didn’t pan out, started one game his whole career and had 3 different cars traced back to boosters by the time he graduated. Imagine what the contributing players got.
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- Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 9:11am #1112519
Memphis MadnessParticipantThe Calipari Era might be over.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 9:21am #1112520
Memphis MadnessParticipantWhat if they get rid of the one-and-done rule for THIS year’s draft? Add Bol Bol to the mocks. Plus Zion Williamson and those other Duke guys.
Imagine pretty much EVERY non-playoff team getting a really high level player!
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 10:02am #1112522
Memphis MadnessParticipantYeah, having 10-15 Tier 1 guys would make for an awesome/awesomely bad stretch run in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 10:51am #1112527
Memphis MadnessParticipantJJJ, yeah you are probably right. I still like my idea (who knew?) of letting guys get drafted right out of high school BUT they can go to college if they want. The NBA team that drafted them have their rights until the year AFTER his college class graduates from college. So, if he wanted to get redrafted he would have to sit out a year.
You can treat HS draft picks who end up enrolling in college the same way you treat 2 way guys in the G League. They get $75,000 cash for that year. In this case, a HS draftee who enrolls in college counts against one of your two 2 way players.
Should college players make more than $75,000 a year? I doubt it…
I think the WORST thing is guys go to college for the year. Yeah, they OBVIOUSLY wanna make money, but they are mostly playing for THEMSELVES because they want to increase their draft stock. If these guys have ALREADY been drafted, and are even on an NBA payroll, then they have less incentive to be selfish, instead they can afford to be more team-oriented (the NBA team takes the risk, not the player).
Then guys can pick teams that would help their overall fundamentals, maybe they pick schools based on academics, too, not just going with the school that will supposedly get them picked higher in the draft.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 11:53am #1112529
McDunkinNJIT is about to snatch up all yalls recruits *rubs hands together like Birdman*
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 2:56pm #1112536
cohenbc1ParticipantI recommend that the FBI take 100% of the money it’s using to investigate college basketball, and hire somebody to pick up the goddamn phone when people call in to report some dude planning to shoot up a school. But that’s just me.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 4:06pm #1112538
holefillers1ParticipantFrom what I am reading it appears that family members. Of these players had dinners charged to a company card. My guess is this effects none of the big names. If the NCAA pursues this to far they may ultimately lose as schools are making far more on these players than the total of a $70 dinner. Careful NCAA…at the end of the day you are a sanctioning body that can be replace if you don’t serve the schools they way they expect.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 5:48pm #1112541
Evan_MilbergParticipantYikes. ESPN just broke another story saying an FBI wiretap caught Sean Miller discussing paying $100,000 to ensure DeAndre Ayton signed with Arizona.
I guess the better question at this point is are there ANY elite recruits who are 100% in compliance with the rules? I’ve always been pretty skeptical of the whole system, but I always assumed that most of the stuff going on wasn’t enough to be investigated super seriously at this level.
Crazy to imagine, but LaVar Ball’s league may land some big name players after all lol.
0- Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 6:12pm #1112545
ChewyParticipantwith all the craziness of Lavar Ball, I believe Lonzo when he says he didnt take money. Lavar always had his sights set on the NBA and BBB buisness. He saw NCAA as a one year vacation before the money making train starts.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/25/2018 - 4:25am #1112610
whiteflashParticipantNo, and there never has been. These kids have been getting paid since HS.
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- Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 5:51pm #1112542
Lotto StudParticipantIf these guys are immediately suspended, the impact on the NCAA Tournament will drive everyone insane.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 6:30pm #1112546
Robb_CParticipanton the Money yet again…
As I said man im not making shit when I post a scoop on here
I was watching the shoe lords operate when I was 16 years old… This has been going on waaay longer than they are letting on.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 6:58pm #1112548
Memphis MadnessParticipantSo Duke has 3 of the top 4 recruits next year. Hmmm…
0- Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 10:36pm #1112557
MopgrassParticipantAssuming Duke plays next year.
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- Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 7:00pm #1112549
Memphis MadnessParticipantArizona is in big, big trouble. They are a big boy team but not a true blue chip franchise like Duke or UNC or Kentucky or Kansas. This could set them back years.
What are the odds that LaVar Ball and Vince McMahon team up to form the XBA?
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 7:02pm #1112550
Memphis MadnessParticipantIronically, the NBA got popular because college basketball was so friggin’ corrupt.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 10:38pm #1112558
Reptilian MonkParticipantLet the Anti NCAA Rebellion begin, lots of hot take social media posts incoming.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 02/23/2018 - 11:42pm #1112562
Andv1 WaitingParticipantThe problem with the not getting or earning any money sort of deal is sort of corupt on their part..As they make millions of the likeness of some of these players…
If they are really going down this path I think they are trying to reel in Calipari and some of these big schools as they are going against the NCAA’s original Student athlete ideals…Either that or far to many incidents are starting to leak out against these schools. See louvilee stripper/escort gate..
But if they are taking this route I wouldn’t be surprised if Lavars league takes off in a couple of years as players may just forgo things to play ball help their family as long as Lavar can promise/get the scouts to come to the games that is..With the NCAA struggling as the product will get worse/they will have no stars to play in their league..
0 - Posted on: Sat, 02/24/2018 - 6:49am #1112571
Memphis MadnessParticipantThey need to clean it up. Hey, Blue Chips is a great movie — one of my favorites. But Hoosiers is a good movie too. I watched the whole Coach Cal Dajuan Wagner, Laurenburg Prep, D Rose, promises of Wall/Cousins/Bledsoe Era in Memphis. It was fun. Real fun. But exhausting and it didn’t last.
Some Hoosiers would be fun.
I think you need BOTH.
I think the Coach Cal/K One and Done, Fun and Gun Era is OVER.
I’m not even against guys getting paid. But I want a level playing field. I also don’t want student fees or ‘university transfers’ to have to pay these guys — those two sources of income is the only reason the Memphis Tigers basketball and football programs were able to show a profit.
Let the NBA pay the top guys. Let the HS phenoms declare for the draft. If they still want to go to college they can get paid a G League salary ($75,000 or so a year maybe even a $10,000 signing bonus) until they leave school and their regular NBA contract goes into effect.
Players ARE getting stipends. Only the upper echelon guys should get much more than a normal stipend. If I were a booster yeah I would consider getting guys some money — but don’t build a semi-pro franchise off the backs of students.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/25/2018 - 5:00am #1112612
mtpandolfiParticipantAnything under $200 doesnt affect eligibility per NCAA rule 16.01.1.1 as long as the “benefit” is repaid to a charity of the student-athlete’s choice. The meals in this case would fall under that.
Now the payments that Dennis Smith Jr, Miles Bridges, etc. received is a whole different story.
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