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Face of Franchise?

So Reggie Miller called Paul George the face of the Pacers franchise. What do you guys think about this?

He put up 24-11-5 with 6 steals against weak Knicks (10-24 shooting, however 10-19 if you look from 2nd qtr on)

I still need to see him getting to the line more, but from what I have heard he is at that stage where he has to earn the refs respect to get the calls as he is a young player. We have seen this before so not to concerned.


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I remember watching the '10

I remember watching the '10 draft and I think it was Stuart scott said a scout stated that George was gnna be the best player from this draft........... which may be a possibility barring any injury........ im still high on wall but dude cant get healthy.... and demarcus cousins..... well is demarcus cousins

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Do you think it is the refs

Do you think it is the refs not giving him the calls or is it just that he can't draw contact? Because for a high scorer he is not going to the line at all.

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Tonight against the Knicks,

Tonight against the Knicks, George went in for a break away layup and JR Smith bumped him pretty hard at the hoop. No call.

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Paul George

Ben McLemore

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How did this guys name get

How did this guys name get brought up? The one huge difference is that George is 6'9" while BMac is only 6'5". That's a big deal that will only get magnified in the NBA. Is George wasn't so long he don't score half the points he does.

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Like i said before i shorter

Like i said before i shorter Paul George.
IDK, i think they play a similar style

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They do play similar.

They do play similar.

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I was a big George supporter

I was a big George supporter going into the draft because before the lottery the Sixers were slotted 6th, and I wanted them to get Cousins if he fell if not I really wanted George or Monroe. I thought George's physical tools and skill set was everything you could want from a wing and thought he had Rudy Gay like potential.

I didn't think George was ever going to become comfortable shooting off the dribble any time soon and thought he was going to be just a 3 and D type of player for the time being. Then December happened. George has taken over that team which looked stuck in the mud earlier in the year and is def the face of the franchise.

He has surpassed ever the Rudy Gay comparisons in my eyes, as he's proven to be a much better defender then Gay, and a much more dominate rebounder.

I have upgraded my comparisons to nearly a Tracy McGrady (Houston era) type level player. He should develop into a 23ppg scorer, 7.5 rpg, and over 4 apg, while getting a block and a steal in the process.

I said it on a thread before and I'll say it again, if the draft was redone I would say George goes ahead of Wall and Cousins. Earlier in the year I was adament in my stance that Turner is a better player, but now I don't think so. Statistics aside the difference between George and Turner isn't as much as stats would indicate because Philly runs a college like offense that swings the ball and shares shots. Turner doesn't get the chance to shoot as much as George does, and is still a much better all around player. But George's shooting and overall scoring ability has been really impressive.

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Greg Anthony said it best:

Greg Anthony said it best: "Granger is good, but Paul George has the potential to be better." I still wanna see what happens when Granger returns, but this team is slowly becoming Paul's.

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I think George is better then

I think George is better then Granger right now, PG is a more dynamic player who impacts the game in a wider range of areas, like defense, rebounding, and passing.

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bill simmons was going to

bill simmons was going to town prior to that draft about any gm picking paul george over xavier henry should be fired on the spot and was proof that he could do a better job running a team. I mean he didnt just make some comment, he wrote numerous paragraphs breaking it down talking about paul like he was gonnna be out of the league by now and xavier was the next paul pierce or something.

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I'll be honest, this guy

I'll be honest, this guy proved me wrong big time. During the draft process, I didn't see anything that would make me believe that he'd be anything better than a spot up shooter. Even through last season, I said at the best he'd be a 15 ppg scorer, but nothing more than that. He has proved me wrong, this guy came out and flat out balled on National Television. He is going to be a Superstar of the highest order in the future, this guy has all the tools and has developed and gotten significantly better in each of his seasons. He still has serious flaws, however I am sold on this guy. I can't wait to see this guy for the next decade, and next year when the Pacers get more national TV games.

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Paul George doesn't get to

Paul George doesn't get to the free-throw line because he doesn't attack the basket. He's still settling for jump shots and shooting too many three-pointers (which is one of the big-time criticisms towards Danny Granger). I also think he's a player who's still improving his ability to create his own offense off of the dribble.

George has shown a lot of improvement this season. He's shown improvement as a ball handler and passer, and has been more aggressive. His mid-range game and comfort shooting off of the dribble have improved. He's just a more dynamic player overall this year. I think he's a little better offensively and a better rebounder, but I think he's similar to Nicolas Batum.

The Pacers are a small market team and will never attract a true superstar via free-agency. Their best and only chance is winning the lottery. So is George the face of the franchise? I guess so. I think it's TBD if he can be a true franchise player. Danny Granger is no longer the face of the franchise (he was never really a true franchise player either). He's 28 years old, coming off of a knee injury and next year will be the last year of his deal. He'll probably be moved before next season. The Pacers now belong to George and Roy Hibbert.

Is George better than Granger? I mean, I don't know. He's more dynamic, but I don't know if he's a better player. I don't think it matters to be honest. They'll be able to play off of one another. People forget that Granger is a versatile offensive player. I think George will welcome having another scorer in the lineup.

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John Wall or Demarcus cousins

John Wall or Demarcus cousins will still be better. Paul george is pretty good though.

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not gonna lie

i called this one. and even worse, i'm a jazz fan. gordan hayward is looking pretty awful in comparison about now

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All i have to say is...Paul

All i have to say is...Paul George should have won the dunk contest last season.

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@morestealsthanscores I don't

@morestealsthanscores

I don't think Gordon Hayward is looking "awful" in comparison to Paul George. I think it's still close between the two.

The biggest difference right now is George is averaging 10 more minutes and five more shots per game.

George has higher upside, but I think both players are going to be very good.

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@Indiana, I agree with your

@Indiana, I agree with your PG breakdown. The Pacers injuries have been a blessing in disguise because they have forced PG to become more agressive and given him a green light to score which he wouldn't of had before. Also unlike a guy like Demar Derozan, PG is not only scoring at a high clip but helping the Pacers win games and doing things like rebounding and making plays on defense.

PG was a solid ball handler in college but he has never really looked comfortable shooting off the dribble until this year and that's been the biggest difference I have saw in his game. Some players never get comfortable shooting off the dribble.

What do you think the difference is between George and Turner. Turner has a very high skill level and can score from any spot on the floor, whether it's posting up, curling off a screen, or being iso'd on the perimeter. But George is a more effective scorer because of his length and shooting ability.

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He gave the right answer

when asked what happens when Granger comes back. He said, "Hopefully my assists go up".

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