What would someone have to trade to get him??
An absolute tenacious defender with developed offensive skills.
He is an absolute stud and I can't wait for him to have his own team, it needs to happen this season.
Today he dropped 14 pts (6-9,1-2,1-2) 6 ast, 4 boards, 2 stls, 2 blocks and no turnovers in 20 minutes.
What would someone have to give up to get him?
even though the clippers have Paul , Crawford and Billups in the rotation, I doubt they let him walk, he's got alot of potential, I remember people around here saying he could be better than John Wall and were getting alot of hate.. Im not saying he will be, but it's not as farfetched as it used to be now.
Yeah, it was me.
I've always said he was better than Wall. Even at Kentucky Coach Cal said they always had intense battles in practice. Cal admitted that Eric was faster, a better ball handler, shooter and jumped higher than Wall. Wall had more a superstar game though with his highlights crazy playmaking abilities/
It may not happen, but Bledsoe has the potential to be better than his former UK teammate, John Wall. As far as your question, it would have to be a shut-down perimeter defender at the PG postion that can score when need, like an Avery Bradley type of player, but I doubt the Clips let him go for that kind of value. They will continue to mold Bledsoe, and so far, they are doing a damn good job.
Why isn't he better than Wall already?
He is better than Wall, RIGHT NOW. But let's wait until Wall comes back from injury and see how and where he steers the Wizards. Another thing I'll give Bled over Wall is maturity. Even since their UK days.
You do realize John Wall averages 16 4 an 8 on a VERY poor wizards team last year right? He's only a jumpshot away from being a monster.
One could argue that those raw stats are a function of usage and minutes. Wall has been given the keys to that franchise since day one. It's not like he was putting up those numbers on a good team...or an even halfway decent team. It's not like he put up those numbers efficiently either, turning the ball over like crazy and having a poor TS despite taking a ton of shots at the rim and getting to the line a lot.
I don't see why becoming or being better than Wall is some sort of insurmountable level for Bledsoe. Wall isn't even an average starting PG given his flaws, which some could consider fatal flaws. All I know is that Bledsoe was been spectacular since last playoffs. He put up a 22 PER in pressurized situations and he's carried that play over to this season, with a near 23 PER off the bench which is tough to do. I've seen more improvement in his game from one season to the next than Wall has made at any level of basketball. Bledsoe's already a better shooter and defender. He also functions better in the half-court because he understands how to play with pace and pick his spots better.
You are reaching here. Claiming that Wall isn't even average is ridiculous. For someone who understands how function better in the half-court it's a bit concerning that this year he still has a lower AST/TO ratio then Wall has ever had. It's not close to what Wall's was last year and now he has at least capable teammates when returns. And for the PER stat you love, Wall's was higher then Rondo's last year and much higher then Bledsoe's.
While Wall's bulk stats may have benefited from 'being the man' in Washington, you are forgetting Bledsoe benefits conversely from playing with far superior teammates. You bring up efficiency stats, which Wall still beat him in the past two seasons despite not having a Chris Paul or Blake Griffin type. Is Bledsoe off to a hot start? Yes. Is he better then Wall? No. It's not like Wall hasn't proven to put up big numbers for long stretches of time before. Over a 22 game stretch last season Wall averaged 18.9 ppg 4.9 rpg 8 apg on 48.7% from the field and 83.2% from the line, with a still higher AST/TO ratio then Bledsoe has now with less help. He hasn't had the benefit of someone else being the defense's main priority to take the pressure off of him.
Wall is almost the new LeBron in terms of how much unfair criticism he gets. He's not a superstar, and he has some big flaws to correct, but people on here act like he is a scrub and some have already labeled him a bust, which is ridiculous. He's averaging 16 4.5 and 8 for his career, and the only others to average 16 and 8 last year were Chris Paul and Deron Williams and that's good company to be in. He still has a ways to go in terms of shooting and turning the ball over, but let's not act like he isn't a good NBA player, because it's painfully obvious that he is.
-I don't think it's a reach at all. The PG position is deep. Right now I would take at least 15 starting PGs over Wall. In no particular order, not including Bledsoe: CP3, Westbrook, Rose, Rondo, D-Will, Kyrie, Nash, TP, Steph, Conley Jr, Holiday, Rubio, Dragic, Lawson, Lowry, Lillard. So yeah, for me personally he'd be right around slightly below average as a starting PG.
-Bledsoe isn't even the primary ball-handler every time he's on the floor. He plays a lot with CP3, so no, I wouldn't expect his A/T to be as high, but his current TOV ratio is 16.6 with a high USG rate. Lower than Wall's career 18.9. AT is one stat I wouldn't expect Bledsoe to be better than Wall in because he's not the playmaker that Wall is, but I do believe that he is the more judicious decision maker, in large because he plays with pace which Wall does not. Playing with pace is such an overlooked aspect of PG play. Players can't be expected to consistently make the right play or even see plays develop if they play 100 miles an hour. Playing with pace is a good sign that, mentally, the game is slowing down for the individual player.
-Of course Wall's stats were better than Bledsoe's stats of the past 2 yrs. I'm talking about the improved Bledsoe that we see right now, which I think even you'd agree that he is. Bledsoe's been a major impact player for the Clips this yr and has come light years in a span of a year under the tutelage of the best floor general in the league. That is another thing that Bledsoe has over Wall. IMO, he's improved more over the course of one season than I've seen from Wall over the course of his short pro career. He's currently learning from the best while Wall was forced to learn on the job, under poor coaches with no veteran presence to learn the nuances of the game. I think that'll give him a leg up on a lot of his competition when he finally gets a starting job which'll only be a matter of time.
I know the PG position is deep but he's still in same tier as about 4-5 of those guys which would still mean he's good. Everything in the 2nd paragraph I can agree with. I'm not knocking Bledsoe. I even said he's having a good year, and ended last year strong, but Wall hasn't even gotten a chance to show his improvement yet, so to jump Bledsoe over him that quick isn't something I agree with. We both agree he's in a FAR better situation and while you're right that if will definitely benefit Bledsoe in the long run, I still wouldn't consider him over Wall right now. Also for 1/3 of last year Wall showed great improvement, but I don't know what happened after that because he tailed off to end the year.
Agreed with Siggy and all the rest.
Bledsoe is better then Wall right now, and its not really that close.
Defense? In Wall's wildest dreams will he ever be the on ball defender and team defender that Bledsoe is. Thats half the game right there where Wall will never catch up.
Running the half court offense? Bledsoe
Fast break and transition? Tie
Shot and shot selection? Bledose.
Making teammates better? Bledose... and this one is not even close. I bet anyone, you put Bledsoe on the Wizards and they start winning much more frequently than with Wall in past seasons.
Work Ethic? Bledsoe... and its not even close. Bledsoe has developed his game every year. Wall? Not so much. Some mild improvements here or there but common now, Wall is pretty much the same player he was in college.
Some team is going to throw atleast 10 mil per at Bledsoe when he becomes a RFA. Considering Lawson, Holiday, Teague etc all got that type of money, someone will pay this man.
He is in a perfect position. He is playing learning from two future hall of famers in billups and cp3. Ty Lawson played under chauncey and look how well he turned out.
Playing behind these two there is less pressure on him and he can develop his game and character both on and off the court. He will also get playoff experience.
Alot of these lottos picks, there is too much expected from them and usually not much veteran leadership on their young teams.
I look forward to watching Bledsoe develop...
He can play the 2. he has something along the line of a 6'10" wingspan. The Clippers want to keep him to play the 2 for them. Will we able to? I'm not sure. But hopefully we can extend him before he says he wants to see what he is worth.
He can play the 2 in a pinch, but I wouldn't keep on that spot for too long. He is only 6'1 with a 6'7 wingspan.
I see his peak as rondo, he has the potential to score better than rondo, but he doesnt have the play making ability of rondo.
I have never seen a PG do what Rondo does on the court. Expecting Bledsoe to be dominant in the fashion that Rondo is, is unrealistic. Rondo has destroyed teams... with no jumper to speak of. It means he already gives the defense an advantage and they still can't stop him. Its crazy how good he is, but its how he does what he does that is so impressive. Rondo's a bit of a douchebag though. Definitly not my favorite player.
In hindsight... wtf was PHX thinking?
I think Bledose has a shot at being a more athletic CP3... Not saying that he will be, but he has a shot. Bledsoe is already crushing it on D though, something that CP3 is only average at. I know Paul gets his steals, but gambling on defense doesn't make you a great defender. Its all effort and desire.
I like bledsoe as much as the next guy, but better then john wall you got to be kidding me. John Wall is not what he will continue to develop into he's not a finished product. Bledsoe is good but to me he's not no damn john wall be real
They definitely shoudn't trade him until they have CP3 locked up long-term, otherwise they could be caught looking pretty foolish for giving up the ideal replacement.
Okay the consensus seems to be to keep him until they at least make sure they keep Paul.
What do you guys think he's trade value is right now though, in terms of what teams would be willing to give up to get him even if the Clips won't trade him.
Also, if they sign Paul to an extension what team could you see him going to? (Barring the 2013 NBA draft)
i may be biased (i really am biased) but i want him to play for the spurs, Manu's contract would be expiring, but they have a ton of guards, Parker, Mills, De colo, Joseph, Anderson, green and Neal
but a team like the pacers could use his services, but i don't see a Granger and Bledsoe swap, although the clippers would have two proficient wing players in Granger and Butler
Paul said on twitter that he goes up against Bledsoe in practice and that in a real game it feels like he is in a rocking chair. That's hilarious
I don't even think it is fair to compare Wall with Bledsoe. Bledsoe is all energy for 15-20 minutes a game. He can afford to go all out because he isn't playing 35+ minutes. I'm not saying Bledsoe hasn't improved because he has come a long way but he has flaws which would be much more noticeable if he was let's say, the Wizard's starting PG. I would still lean towards Wall today but it is very close and if Wall comes back and hasn't improved much, Bledsoe could pass him up.
As far as Bledsoe's trade value, I guess it depends on what LA wants in return. Do they want a legit starting 2 guard that can defend and shoot? Then you could look at someone like Arron Affalo. Is a straight trade between the 2 fair? I'm not sure. Affalo is a proven starting 2 on this league. Bledsoe is unproven in big minutes yet could easily exceed the player Affalo is. That is why you can't rush a trade. They have to lock CP3 in first before they even think about it and even then he could stay depending on the money he wants.
Why not trade Chris Paul and let Bledsoe take over? You could get a lot back in return, including draft picks, and Bledsoe is a better defender and the drop off between the two isn't that great, Paul 25 PER, Bledsoe 23.
That's too extreme. You know you have the best PG in the game and even those that say he isn't would say he is top 3. With Bledsoe, you don't know what kind of player you are going to get when he plays againsts everyone's first unit and for 36 minutes a game. Plus, the clippers need Paul's playmaking. Bledsoe is an awesome player but I don't think he can run a team yet and will more than likely never run a team as well as Paul does.