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  • #52642
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    R-Dot-13
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    I never thought this would be a legit question but it is..

    After being teammates at Kentucky, I didn’t think I’d be asking this but I am. Bledsoe is improving every game and has been very impressive as a starter. Wall hasn’t had quite the same progress. Still huge potential but right now I’m really starting to lean Bledsoe.

    Who would you take, Wall or Bledsoe?

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  • #849744
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    Bledsoe.
    Wall just didnt took that great leap,and become 20 10 player, Bledsoe on the other hand looks great,I know he has TO problem,but thats beacuse guy didn’t really play full time pg since hs,even on college he was SG,he will cut down TO’s as he lears to let the game come to him.

     

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  • #849631
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    Bledsoe.
    Wall just didnt took that great leap,and become 20 10 player, Bledsoe on the other hand looks great,I know he has TO problem,but thats beacuse guy didn’t really play full time pg since hs,even on college he was SG,he will cut down TO’s as he lears to let the game come to him.

     

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  • #849746
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    BeefSupreme
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    Eric Bledsoe. Wall cannot shoot period! All he is just a "track" athlete running up and down the court…He’ll get decent #’s against bad teams…He is full of overhype!

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  • #849633
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    Eric Bledsoe. Wall cannot shoot period! All he is just a "track" athlete running up and down the court…He’ll get decent #’s against bad teams…He is full of overhype!

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  • #849752
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     John Wall. Both guys play good defense, but Wall is a better passer and IMO has a higher ceiling.

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  • #849639
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     John Wall. Both guys play good defense, but Wall is a better passer and IMO has a higher ceiling.

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  • #849760
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    For_Never_Ever
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     I feel relieved. I been on his case since his rookie year. Accuse of being a John Wall hater, negged likely more them a hundred times because of my early rants on him.Then Siggy came along and thought the same about him, now you guys.

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  • #849647
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    For_Never_Ever
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     I feel relieved. I been on his case since his rookie year. Accuse of being a John Wall hater, negged likely more them a hundred times because of my early rants on him.Then Siggy came along and thought the same about him, now you guys.

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  • #849766
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     John Wall has struggled this season, especially scoring, but you guys are way overrating to a small sample size.  Wall still excels in the drive-and-kick game and has far superior PG skills to Bledsoe.  Bledsoe has impressed me this season, but don’t forget that Wall helped engineer one of the best mid-season turnarounds in NBA history last season.  Its been a bad year for the Wizards, but Wall is still quite simply a better basketball player than Bledsoe.  Both have a lot of room to grow, but Wall is the more polished overall player, even if Bledsoe has been much more productive to start the season.

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  • #849653
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     John Wall has struggled this season, especially scoring, but you guys are way overrating to a small sample size.  Wall still excels in the drive-and-kick game and has far superior PG skills to Bledsoe.  Bledsoe has impressed me this season, but don’t forget that Wall helped engineer one of the best mid-season turnarounds in NBA history last season.  Its been a bad year for the Wizards, but Wall is still quite simply a better basketball player than Bledsoe.  Both have a lot of room to grow, but Wall is the more polished overall player, even if Bledsoe has been much more productive to start the season.

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    • #849707
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       His whole career shouldn’t be considered a small ample size. the small sample size was the end of last year when he was playing out of his mind. That didn’t fit the trend. He’s been either average or good most of his career and I still didn’t bring up his durability questiojns yet.

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    • #849820
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       His whole career shouldn’t be considered a small ample size. the small sample size was the end of last year when he was playing out of his mind. That didn’t fit the trend. He’s been either average or good most of his career and I still didn’t bring up his durability questiojns yet.

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  • #849772
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    In the bold predictions post i got negged for saying Bledsoe would have a better year numbers wise than Wall, can i get some of my points back? Because it is happening, its happening so much that this post is about if Bledsoe is flatout a better player than Wall. Waiting for someone to bring up the small sample size argument

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  • #849659
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    In the bold predictions post i got negged for saying Bledsoe would have a better year numbers wise than Wall, can i get some of my points back? Because it is happening, its happening so much that this post is about if Bledsoe is flatout a better player than Wall. Waiting for someone to bring up the small sample size argument

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  • #849773
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    For_Never_Ever
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     Still looks like the same player since his rookie year, stats and all. I’ll leave it at that. I have said everything about him that i wanted to say, and it all still applies now. Its weird for some reason i made it personnal with Wall and went on a Crusade against him when I was a youngling on the site.

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  • #849661
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     Still looks like the same player since his rookie year, stats and all. I’ll leave it at that. I have said everything about him that i wanted to say, and it all still applies now. Its weird for some reason i made it personnal with Wall and went on a Crusade against him when I was a youngling on the site.

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    • #849738
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      it rained hard when i said that too, not even impressed by the stats after the rookie season. every wall topic i had to reply since coz this wall believers just won’t give it up lol

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    • #849851
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      it rained hard when i said that too, not even impressed by the stats after the rookie season. every wall topic i had to reply since coz this wall believers just won’t give it up lol

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  • #849665
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    Fourth year in the league, when it comes to #1 overall picks I need production, not “upside”, going with Bledsoe. Still think Wall will turn it around, but Bledsoe just seems to get it.

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    • #849739
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       You think Bledsoe has produced more than Wall? Bledsoe has been a starter all of 7 or 8 games. Bledsoe has been inefficient in that hes turning the ball over more than 4 times a game. Wall has had a slow (shooting) start to the season, but even with that hes at 40% fg percentage and 35% on threes, which is not great, but not horrible. When we get to the 25-30 game mark, then we can talk about who is producing more. 

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    • #849853
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       You think Bledsoe has produced more than Wall? Bledsoe has been a starter all of 7 or 8 games. Bledsoe has been inefficient in that hes turning the ball over more than 4 times a game. Wall has had a slow (shooting) start to the season, but even with that hes at 40% fg percentage and 35% on threes, which is not great, but not horrible. When we get to the 25-30 game mark, then we can talk about who is producing more. 

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  • #849778
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    Fourth year in the league, when it comes to #1 overall picks I need production, not “upside”, going with Bledsoe. Still think Wall will turn it around, but Bledsoe just seems to get it.

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  • #849715
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    John Wall just isn’t a smart player. He shoots a TON of jumpers and doesn’t drive enough, his defense is on and off, and he demanded a max contract, which puts the Wiz in a tight cap situation for the next several years. Bledsoe, on the other hand, focuses on getting to the rim, and it shows in his 52% FG shooting and 25 PER. He’s showing me more than John Wall ever has. Better defender, better rebounder, better shooter, smarter player. Suns should lock him up.

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    • #849743
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       a smarter player that turns the ball over more than 4 times a game and is averaging only 7 assists….

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    • #849856
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       a smarter player that turns the ball over more than 4 times a game and is averaging only 7 assists….

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  • #849828
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    John Wall just isn’t a smart player. He shoots a TON of jumpers and doesn’t drive enough, his defense is on and off, and he demanded a max contract, which puts the Wiz in a tight cap situation for the next several years. Bledsoe, on the other hand, focuses on getting to the rim, and it shows in his 52% FG shooting and 25 PER. He’s showing me more than John Wall ever has. Better defender, better rebounder, better shooter, smarter player. Suns should lock him up.

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  • #849735
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     Even at Kentucky you would hear about the battles they had in practice. Calipari was interviewed several times saying that Bledsoe was end to end the faster player of the two and that he brought the best out of John Wall every single day. At Kentucky Bledsoe had to learn hpw to play off the ball which he had never done in his life. No he’s getting back used to having the ball in hands and being the playmaker. I’ve always thought that Bledsoe was the better player in every aspect of the Wall. The biggest factor Wall had was that he was a long 6’4 point guard with a household name already. That goes a long way. I think Wall is great, but I just dont think he has anything else that makes him standout over Bledsoe other than his size and name. 

    BTW: I remember during the week of the draft that year, Coach Calipari was being interviewed and said if Eric Bledsoe had his own team away from John Wall, he’d be a top 5 lock. It’s not a fluke, Bledsoe is that good.

     

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  • #849848
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     Even at Kentucky you would hear about the battles they had in practice. Calipari was interviewed several times saying that Bledsoe was end to end the faster player of the two and that he brought the best out of John Wall every single day. At Kentucky Bledsoe had to learn hpw to play off the ball which he had never done in his life. No he’s getting back used to having the ball in hands and being the playmaker. I’ve always thought that Bledsoe was the better player in every aspect of the Wall. The biggest factor Wall had was that he was a long 6’4 point guard with a household name already. That goes a long way. I think Wall is great, but I just dont think he has anything else that makes him standout over Bledsoe other than his size and name. 

    BTW: I remember during the week of the draft that year, Coach Calipari was being interviewed and said if Eric Bledsoe had his own team away from John Wall, he’d be a top 5 lock. It’s not a fluke, Bledsoe is that good.

     

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  • #849753
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     Have you guys watched John Wall this year? Hes turning into one of the best PGs in the league! He is one of the best passers in the league, and as good if not better than Bledsoe on defense. Give me Wall hands down.

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  • #849866
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     Have you guys watched John Wall this year? Hes turning into one of the best PGs in the league! He is one of the best passers in the league, and as good if not better than Bledsoe on defense. Give me Wall hands down.

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  • #849761
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    John Wall lacks a killer instinct and it’s relatively obvious. He just doesn’t have that takeover mentality

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    • #849767
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       He tries to take over, he’s just not smart or skilled enough to do it successfully.  You can see it at the end of close ballgames he’ll dribble down the clock and look to iso, but he’ll end up doing something like bricking a pull up long 2, drive into a brick wall or his patented drive and kick bailout passes.

      Yeah, he’ll rack up assists, but he still isn’t much of a floor general.  He’s still pretty much a drive and kick player who doesn’t know how to run screen roll or half court offense in general.  There aren’t a whole lot of dimensions to his game.

       

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    • #849881
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       He tries to take over, he’s just not smart or skilled enough to do it successfully.  You can see it at the end of close ballgames he’ll dribble down the clock and look to iso, but he’ll end up doing something like bricking a pull up long 2, drive into a brick wall or his patented drive and kick bailout passes.

      Yeah, he’ll rack up assists, but he still isn’t much of a floor general.  He’s still pretty much a drive and kick player who doesn’t know how to run screen roll or half court offense in general.  There aren’t a whole lot of dimensions to his game.

       

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  • #849874
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    TRC1991
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    John Wall lacks a killer instinct and it’s relatively obvious. He just doesn’t have that takeover mentality

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  • #849771
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     IMO Bledsoe has shown more growth in his game than Wall has, but Eric was also blessed to have the best PG in the game mentoring him for his first couple of years.  He still has TO problems but I think he has a better understanding of pace than Wall. He CAN go 100 miles and hour but he understands that he doesn’t need to to be effective. Operating at those in b/t speeds is key to being a good PG in the league because it allows the PG to see plays develop and react to them.

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  • #849885
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     IMO Bledsoe has shown more growth in his game than Wall has, but Eric was also blessed to have the best PG in the game mentoring him for his first couple of years.  He still has TO problems but I think he has a better understanding of pace than Wall. He CAN go 100 miles and hour but he understands that he doesn’t need to to be effective. Operating at those in b/t speeds is key to being a good PG in the league because it allows the PG to see plays develop and react to them.

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  • #850003
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     It’s crazy now that i think back a lot of big names on the site Uncle Buckets, JNixon, Surve, Indianabasketball and more created posts about Wall is going to be top 5 or better then Derrick Rose.  

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  • #849888
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     It’s crazy now that i think back a lot of big names on the site Uncle Buckets, JNixon, Surve, Indianabasketball and more created posts about Wall is going to be top 5 or better then Derrick Rose.  

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    • #851276
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      surve
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       I still stand behind my statements and predictions for Wall.  Absolutely.

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    • #851165
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      surve
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       I still stand behind my statements and predictions for Wall.  Absolutely.

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